eBay Authenticity Guarantee limit now $500 - Page 21

meanjean9 · 08-04-2022, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by BBases31

I hope you don't plan to sell a card with a fake serial number just because SGC didn't catch it

Fake according to who? CSG who also said it was authentic 3 weeks prior? Not sure I’m smelling what you’re cooking.

towerymt · 08-04-2022, 02:44 PM

Just wait til PSA fails auth on the SGC slab. Wont that be something

Good luck! What a mess.

hammertime · 08-04-2022, 02:47 PM

John Mangini on YouTube said something about the eBay authentication being optional now...anyone seen this?

meanjean9 · 08-04-2022, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by towerymt

Just wait til PSA fails auth on the SGC slab. Wont that be something

Good luck! What a mess.

Right lol! Thanks man, if I do ever decide to move it I wouldn’t touch EBay, I like the movie Groundhog Day but have no interest in role playing it with Dorsey Levens playing Bill Murrays part.

BBases31 · 08-04-2022, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by meanjean9

Fake according to who? CSG who also said it was authentic 3 weeks prior? Not sure I’m smelling what you’re cooking.

CSG has said it wasn't authentic once and our friend told you how it's been proven as a fake serial number on Blowout. We've seen *plenty* of fake cards in slabs on here and yours has a fake serial number:

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Originally Posted by bear0555

Authentic/Alerted. The serial number is fake. I'm surprised CSG caught it the second time around but they screwed you the first time. There's a fake 90s thread on the basketball forum that mentioned this card when it was first listed. I'd be trying to get a refund from ebay and it sounds like a headache. But they screwed up, so they should refund you. Keep us updated.

Funny how you decide to send it for grading to SGC and not PSA, a company that is significantly easier to slip an altered card through.

It would be extremely shady and unethical if you now turned around and tried to sell this card just because SGC slabbed it(despite what was posted about the card on Blowout)

meanjean9 · 08-04-2022, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BBases31

CSG has said it wasn't authentic once and our friend told you how it's been proven as a fake serial number on Blowout. We've seen *plenty* of fake cards in slabs on here and yours has a fake serial number:

Funny how you decide to send it for grading to SGC and not PSA, a company that is significantly easier to slip an altered card through.

It would be extremely shady and unethical if you now turned around and tried to sell this card just because SGC slabbed it(despite what was posted about the card on Blowout)

Care to point me in the direction of this thread where this card was supposedly discussed? Search feature isn’t showing me anything, thanks Slim Shady. If I send to every single grading company that is currently in business would you then consider me ethical? Let me know, I have the free time.

bear0555 · 08-04-2022, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by meanjean9

Care to point me in the direction of this thread where this card was supposedly discussed? Search feature isn’t showing me anything, thanks Slim Shady. If I send to every single grading company that is currently in business would you then consider me ethical? Let me know, I have the free time.

I think you're asking for this?
https://www.blowoutforums.com/showpo...&postcount=458

Swipe79 · 08-04-2022, 05:38 PM

They failed my 2021 Topps Heritage Real One Auto of Aaron Judge this morning - headed back to me. The reason was unable to confirm authenticity. Reached out on Twitter - zero help but they seem to recognize something's up as eBay CS called me. They were apologetic and I explained exactly what was going on...seems like CSG is the problem.

kyle1707 · 08-04-2022, 06:01 PM

I bought a 600 dollar raw card

It did not go to authentication

It was damaged so I returned it

I bought a very expansive Bgs 9.5 card

I know they say over an amount it goes

But how stupid

I get new people might have no clue

So I deal with it

But what a huge waste of money and time imo

meanjean9 · 08-04-2022, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by bear0555

I think you're asking for this?
https://www.blowoutforums.com/showpo...&postcount=458

Thanks!

KhalDrogo · 08-04-2022, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Swipe79

They failed my 2021 Topps Heritage Real One Auto of Aaron Judge this morning - headed back to me. The reason was unable to confirm authenticity. Reached out on Twitter - zero help but they seem to recognize something's up as eBay CS called me. They were apologetic and I explained exactly what was going on...seems like CSG is the problem.

meanjean9 · 08-04-2022, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by bear0555

I think you're asking for this?
https://www.blowoutforums.com/showpo...&postcount=458

I’m genuinely curious to hear some opinions on this, I’m sure this RogerMaris fella is very knowledgeable and I value his opinion, I’m in a weird place here obviously. I compared the numbering in person to another PMG and it looked identical, Barnum and Bailey CSG went both ways on authenticity and SGC graded it so they clearly thought it was good. I’ve had so many PMGs over the years that I’d like to think i could the difference but who knows. This sucks.

KhalDrogo · 08-04-2022, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by meanjean9

I’m genuinely curious to hear some opinions on this, I’m sure this RogerMaris fella is very knowledgeable and I value his opinion, I’m in a weird place here obviously. I compared the numbering in person to another PMG and it looked identical, Barnum and Bailey CSG went both ways on authenticity and SGC graded it so they clearly thought it was good. I’ve had so many PMGs over the years that I’d like to think i could the difference but who knows. This sucks.

RM is a legend. His word is gospel on this stuff. I’ve never seen him be wrong.

Tough spot for you to be in. Pretty shitty for eBay not to reimburse your purchase and have you send them back the card.

meanjean9 · 08-04-2022, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

RM is a legend. His word is gospel on this stuff. I’ve never seen him be wrong.

Tough spot for you to be in. Pretty shitty for eBay not to reimburse your purchase and have you send them back the card.

eBay gonna eBay my man.

bear0555 · 08-04-2022, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by meanjean9

eBay gonna eBay my man.

That's terrible that they didn't refund you. So what kind of guarantee is this if we are getting altered and deceptive cards? Just received a 4 figure card today with a bent corner and edge ding that passed through. I don't know I could feel comfortable selling it without disclosing the damage myself. Debating whether or not I'll force the return on this one.

Look through the first page of the thread. As you get more familiar with the numbering, you'll be able to differentiate the real and fake serial numbers more easily. The numbering style is similar through various fleer sets from the time period so that's more cards you can look through.

meanjean9 · 08-04-2022, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by bear0555

That's terrible that they didn't refund you. So what kind of guarantee is this if we are getting altered and deceptive cards? Just received a 4 figure card today with a bent corner and edge ding that passed through. I don't know I could feel comfortable selling it without disclosing the damage myself. Debating whether or not I'll force the return on this one.

Look through the first page of the thread. As you get more familiar with the numbering, you'll be able to differentiate the real and fake serial numbers more easily. The numbering style is similar through various fleer sets from the time period so that's more cards you can look through.

To quote Tom Callahan a guaranteed piece of shiiiit. Best of luck on getting your issue resolved, such a load of crap to have to deal with this stuff when the “authenticator” should be catching it.

golakers32 · 08-05-2022, 12:03 AM

Picked up a SGC graded 1956 Topps Koufax….shipped on August 1 to the “authenticator” and scheduled to arrive on August 17.

What a lame experience to wait 2.5 weeks for a graded card with a stupid middleman. Really a turnoff for future eBay purchases.

pip · 08-05-2022, 12:54 AM

I wonder how much longer CSG can continue this charade. They've obviously misrepresented their level of knowledge and skill to ebay.

rwperu34 · 08-05-2022, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by pip

I wonder how much longer CSG can continue this charade. They've obviously misrepresented their level of knowledge and skill to ebay.

Probably just takes a lawsuit.

clocsta2323 · 08-05-2022, 01:30 AM

So the "people" have spoken. Looks like the idiots continue to think they are gonna change things LOL

hammertime · 08-05-2022, 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by bear0555

Just received a 4 figure card today with a bent corner and edge ding that passed through. I don't know I could feel comfortable selling it without disclosing the damage myself. Debating whether or not I'll force the return on this one.

This drives me nuts...so many slimy dealers in this hobby.

KhalDrogo · 08-05-2022, 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by hammertime

This drives me nuts...so many slimy dealers in this hobby.

This program enables bad sellers to get away with it. Previously, if the buyer files an INAD return, you stand next to no chance of winning. Now, you just have to take a no risk gamble that CSG overlooks the issue, or doesn’t think it’s bad enough to warrant not passing. Once that happens, you’re good.

kyle1707 · 08-05-2022, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by golakers32

Picked up a SGC graded 1956 Topps Koufax….shipped on August 1 to the “authenticator” and scheduled to arrive on August 17.

What a lame experience to wait 2.5 weeks for a graded card with a stupid middleman. Really a turnoff for future eBay purchases.

I’m in the same boat

Bought high end bgs card

Guy shipped it same day. Great seller

But it has been in Florida with weekend almost a week

Bgs Psa and sgc. Buyer should decide if they want card to go to authentication

I would love to see a video of the eBay rep opening my Bgs card

Yep that’s a Bgs card

Ok ship it to back to Illinois

I get raw. But not Psa Bgs Sgc

atk825 · 08-05-2022, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by golakers32

Picked up a SGC graded 1956 Topps Koufax….shipped on August 1 to the “authenticator” and scheduled to arrive on August 17.

What a lame experience to wait 2.5 weeks for a graded card with a stupid middleman. Really a turnoff for future eBay purchases.

It should be much quicker than that. I have had two cards in the last couple weeks go to the authenticator, one shipped 8/2, got to the authenticator today and it was authenticated and already has shipping instructions to me generated, which is also what happened last time. Maybe older cards take longer but I don't see why.

atk825 · 08-05-2022, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by kyle1707

I’m in the same boat

Bought high end bgs card

Guy shipped it same day. Great seller

But it has been in Florida with weekend almost a week

Bgs Psa and sgc. Buyer should decide if they want card to go to authentication

I would love to see a video of the eBay rep opening my Bgs card

Yep that’s a Bgs card

Ok ship it to back to Illinois

I get raw. But not Psa Bgs Sgc

There are a lot of fake slabs.

08-04-2022, 05:38 PM	#508
Swipe79 Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Vancouver, WA Posts: 13,161 Swipe79 XFactor	They failed my 2021 Topps Heritage Real One Auto of Aaron Judge this morning - headed back to me. The reason was unable to confirm authenticity. Reached out on Twitter - zero help but they seem to recognize something's up as eBay CS called me. They were apologetic and I explained exactly what was going on...seems like CSG is the problem. __________________ Have a nice day!

08-05-2022, 12:54 AM	#518
pip Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: French underground Posts: 4,009	I wonder how much longer CSG can continue this charade. They've obviously misrepresented their level of knowledge and skill to ebay. __________________ Dealers to avoid -- https://www.blowoutforums.com/showpost.php?p=14831085&postcount=1

08-04-2022, 02:44 PM	#502
towerymt Member Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: VA Posts: 8,739	Just wait til PSA fails auth on the SGC slab. Wont that be something Good luck! What a mess.

08-04-2022, 02:47 PM	#503
hammertime Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: OH->MI->MD->VA Posts: 6,714	John Mangini on YouTube said something about the eBay authentication being optional now...anyone seen this?

08-04-2022, 06:01 PM	#509
kyle1707 Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 20,399	I bought a 600 dollar raw card It did not go to authentication It was damaged so I returned it I bought a very expansive Bgs 9.5 card I know they say over an amount it goes But how stupid I get new people might have no clue So I deal with it But what a huge waste of money and time imo

08-05-2022, 12:03 AM	#517
golakers32 Member Join Date: Feb 2021 Posts: 325	Picked up a SGC graded 1956 Topps Koufax….shipped on August 1 to the “authenticator” and scheduled to arrive on August 17. What a lame experience to wait 2.5 weeks for a graded card with a stupid middleman. Really a turnoff for future eBay purchases.

08-05-2022, 01:30 AM	#520
clocsta2323 Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: D.C. Posts: 6,842	So the "people" have spoken. Looks like the idiots continue to think they are gonna change things LOL