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Old 07-28-2022, 08:06 AM   #51
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Had a good time dealing with them last year at the National and made a deal on this bad boy with them - only one in the entire room. He is coming with me this year hoping to make some deals.
That is a great card!
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Old 07-28-2022, 09:30 AM   #52
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Great meeting up with so many of you today. The show was quite busy (more than I expected). Was busy all day and made some great deals and great buys. If anyone wants to talk at the booth, come on by!

Onto Thursday!


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Old 07-28-2022, 09:31 AM   #53
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Great meeting up with so many of you today. The show was quite busy (more than I expected). Was busy all day and made some great deals and great buys. If anyone wants to talk at the booth, come on by!

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Old 07-28-2022, 10:18 AM   #54
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GI Joe as well?
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Old 07-28-2022, 10:21 AM   #55
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Since Meely isn’t willing to engage anyone in meaningful discussion here about his involvement in the multi million dollar hobby scam, I think we can go one of two ways with this.

1. Discuss all our thought about Meelypop’s involvement in the multi millions dollar Pokescam

2. Encourage others at the National to talk with Meelypops at his booth about his incline NT. Recordings would be a plus.

Let’s give the man what he wants. Great BO fan love and keep the Meelypops name active.
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Old 07-28-2022, 11:17 AM   #56
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Since Meely isn’t willing to engage anyone in meaningful discussion here about his involvement in the multi million dollar hobby scam, I think we can go one of two ways with this.

1. Discuss all our thought about Meelypop’s involvement in the multi millions dollar Pokescam

2. Encourage others at the National to talk with Meelypops at his booth about his incline NT. Recordings would be a plus.

Let’s give the man what he wants. Great BO fan love and keep the Meelypops name active.
I'm shocked he had the cardkahunas to post here.
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Old 07-28-2022, 11:32 AM   #57
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A salesman was nice to me so I like him and he’s good.


Doesn’t that sum it up for some people?
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Old 07-28-2022, 11:40 AM   #58
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"Had the case not been opened, I pulled off the great heist..."

"Bummer, heist was foiled. Look at me though I paid back all the funds (I even said so on IG), so I'm still a good person..."

"Come on BO family, come spend your money with me. Remember, I am a good person and you are my "family"..."


Amazes me how some get a long leash while others get the death knell over a few dollars.
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Old 07-28-2022, 11:43 AM   #59
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Correct me if I'm wrong , but doesn't the GI Joe fault lie with BBCE ?
If I buy an authenticated sealed box/case, and later learn it's a bullsh+t box/case....I would go directly after the authentication company.
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Old 07-28-2022, 11:53 AM   #60
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Correct me if I'm wrong , but doesn't the GI Joe fault lie with BBCE ?
If I buy an authenticated sealed box/case, and later learn it's a bullsh+t box/case....I would go directly after the authentication company.
So you believe BBCE should be on the hook to pay back millions of dollars?
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Old 07-28-2022, 12:12 PM   #61
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So you believe BBCE should be on the hook to pay back millions of dollars?
No. I never stated anything about paying money back. I said the fault in the transaction lies with BBCE. If that Authentication was accurate and correct, the transaction is completed flawlessly. But they messed it up.

If I lost millions of dollars due to their error, then I try to recoup my money from them - whether that is through their insurance company or through a lawsuit.
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Old 07-28-2022, 12:21 PM   #62
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No. I never stated anything about paying money back. I said the fault in the transaction lies with BBCE. If that Authentication was accurate and correct, the transaction is completed flawlessly. But they messed it up.

If I lost millions of dollars due to their error, then I try to recoup my money from them - whether that is through their insurance company or through a lawsuit.
I really hate to sound like I am supporting BBCE in this case but, they DID NOT facilitate the transaction. So, the millions come from the perpetuator of the offense.
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Old 07-28-2022, 12:23 PM   #63
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If I lost millions of dollars due to their error, then I try to recoup my money from them - whether that is through their insurance company or through a lawsuit.
Sure, Meely and Kahuna should sue them
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Old 07-28-2022, 12:45 PM   #64
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Yes, they should...if they have not already.
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Old 07-28-2022, 12:49 PM   #65
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Old 07-28-2022, 01:02 PM   #66
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Yes, they should...if they have not already.
I suggest you watch Rattle's videos on this case and how everything transpired.
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Old 07-28-2022, 01:07 PM   #67
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Meely poops.
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Old 07-28-2022, 01:36 PM   #68
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No. I never stated anything about paying money back. I said the fault in the transaction lies with BBCE. If that Authentication was accurate and correct, the transaction is completed flawlessly. But they messed it up.

If I lost millions of dollars due to their error, then I try to recoup my money from them - whether that is through their insurance company or through a lawsuit.
You have to agree to their terms and conditions on your submission form. If you don't agree to not hold them liable, they just wont authenticate your stuff.

They shed liability over and over again within these terms. You can sue if you want, but all Steve has to do is show your signed consent on the form, and its game over.

The max they will pay out, is the return of their grading fees. Which cap out at $5K

https://www.bbcexchange.com/authentication
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Old 07-28-2022, 01:39 PM   #69
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With Meely there...you know it gonna be hype !
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Old 07-28-2022, 01:47 PM   #70
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IMO, it's a case where meely and BBCE cut corners/made deals/looked the other way because their desire to make money was greater than their desire to do things the right way.
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Old 07-28-2022, 02:00 PM   #71
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You have to agree to their terms and conditions on your submission form. If you don't agree to not hold them liable, they just wont authenticate your stuff.

They shed liability over and over again within these terms. You can sue if you want, but all Steve has to do is show your signed consent on the form, and its game over.

The max they will pay out, is the return of their grading fees. Which cap out at $5K

https://www.bbcexchange.com/authentication
Well no wonder the terms are onerous. How do they guarantee something that can't be guaranteed?
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Old 07-28-2022, 02:36 PM   #72
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Watched the video - definitely good info.

Just my thoughts: if BBCE says that case is NOT Authentic, there are no further transactions. It's fake.
Then Meelypops and Kahuna are left holding the bag. They then pursue the D-bag that sold them the fake case to try to recoup their money.
No Shine, No Jake Paul, no big dramatic controversy. And no entertaining YouTube videos.

The sales were made as a direct result of the BBCE Authentication. None of them buy that case with authentication. Who would be stupid enough to spend millions on a case that was not authenticated?

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Unless everyone here feels MeelyPops and Kahuna KNEW it was fake....and fleeced or coerced BBCE....well that's a different story entirely.
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Old 07-28-2022, 02:53 PM   #73
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-Meely made a clear mistake in jumping the gun on the deal. It wasn't just a case of someone going all in on J'marcus Russell cards or doing an autograph signing with a guy who turns out to stink. It was somewhere worse but not a direct attempt to deceive.
-The two people I thought looked the worst are Kahuna and more importantly BBCE. BBCE this is their industry and they were clearly beaten badly. You just can not be beaten like that and I would have a hard time buying anything from them. Kahuna I'm not sure why he's not in jail.
-Most of you are at the show, you're welcome to confront Jameel and go to his booth and sniff it out or talk to other dealers about his rep. I've met the guy and think it was just a bad mistake and you're just trolling to hurt someone.
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Old 07-28-2022, 03:35 PM   #74
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Watched the video - definitely good info.

Just my thoughts: if BBCE says that case is NOT Authentic, there are no further transactions. It's fake.
Then Meelypops and Kahuna are left holding the bag. They then pursue the D-bag that sold them the fake case to try to recoup their money.
No Shine, No Jake Paul, no big dramatic controversy. And no entertaining YouTube videos.

The sales were made as a direct result of the BBCE Authentication. None of them buy that case with authentication. Who would be stupid enough to spend millions on a case that was not authenticated?

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Unless everyone here feels MeelyPops and Kahuna KNEW it was fake....and fleeced or coerced BBCE....well that's a different story entirely.

Steve Hart said himself he has never authenticated a sealed Pokemon case before

Meely and CardKahuna rushed to his shop on a Sunday Evening to get it to BBCE for authenticating. Not to mention, the person they bought it from had him ship it to a local gaming store (Which I thought was weird and an immediate red flag)

After the wrap was applied to the case after what seemed like only half an hour, Steve Hart researched and gained all the knowledge needing to authenticate the case. Would of loved to hear the convo between the 3 of them in his office

And then all of the sudden, Steve Hart rolls into work work a new motorcycle the following week. Coincidence???? Who the hell knows (CK and Meely do though)
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Old 07-28-2022, 04:42 PM   #75
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Selling the mis-authenticated product wasn’t the bad part. Not paying back immediately was the bad part.
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