**The Perennial MIKE TROUT Thread**

[Marc22a]

Originally Posted by cspaced25

Not good at all! This could be the start of the career ending injury. Guess it depends on how bad the pain is.


Angels head athletic trainer Mike Frostad revealed Wednesday that Mike Trout has been diagnosed with a rare back condition called costovertebral dysfunction.
It is somewhat related to the right ribcage inflammation that sent Trout to the injured list earlier this month. He is not currently doing any baseball activities following a recent cortisone injection and there is no mapped-out timetable for his return. "This is a pretty rare condition that he has right now in his back," Frostad said. "The doctor (Robert Watkins), who is one of the most well-known spine surgeons in the country, if not the world, doesn’t see a lot of these. ... We do have to look at this as something that -- he has to manage it, not just through the rest of this season, but also through the rest of his career probably." Yikes.

I have a hunch Mike Frostad isn’t going to be the Athletics head trainer much longer. True or not, this kind of revelation is way too hyperbolic to just be casually dropped by anyone other than the player himself or the GM.

[rngrdanny22]

"rare back condition"

That's what happens when you carry your team on your back for a decade...

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by Boredlawyer

That Athletic article is terrifying but also very expected for an athlete in their 30s.

This is definitely not the conclusion to draw.

Going to be a chronic problem that requires management. This isn’t a common issue.

[regularp]

Might wind up being one of the worst contracts in baseball history. Yikes.

[BigSlim16]

Whether he does come back this year or is shut down till 2023, it looks like a DH role may suit him better moving forward. But with Ohtani in the lineup that’s not going to happen. I’m no doctor, but a rare back condition that requires constant management doesn’t sound like something an everyday CF will be able to play through for very long

[mwash1983]

Originally Posted by 49ersSF

Nomar Garciaparra as well.

I wonder how much the market for his cards will be effected? It would never be wise investing in a guy that has never won a playoff game, has only twice played more than 114 games in a season in the last 6 years and is now about turn 31 which for most MLB players starts the down turn in their careers. With his bloated contract costing the Angels $35 million a year for the next 9 years all guaranteed the Angels are dealing with another more extreme Albert Pujols type situation. Pujols was at least able to stay on the field where Trout might just end up a role player.

I think it’s going to be a healthy 25% drop.

[JRX]

Originally Posted by BigSlim16

Whether he does come back this year or is shut down till 2023, it looks like a DH role may suit him better moving forward. But with Ohtani in the lineup that’s not going to happen. I’m no doctor, but a rare back condition that requires constant management doesn’t sound like something an everyday CF will be able to play through for very long

Wait, I thought everyone posting here was a board certified orthopedist.

[Bcr]

RIP Mike Trout investors

[Bcr]

Hopefully he can make it back by March so he can play in the classic.

[kyle1707]

If he misses rest of season will be interesting where the update Psa 10 ends up

[Boredlawyer]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

This is definitely not the conclusion to draw.

Going to be a chronic problem that requires management. This isn’t a common issue.

But overall rate for sustained and lingering injuries after age 30 IS extremely high for stars. Don't know or care about this particular injury... but whether you're talking about DW's spinal stenosis, Griffey's knees, Pujols' feet, Tulo's everything, it was always expected that Trout's WAR would collapse around age 31-32.

One thing card "investors" are really adept at is underestimating risk to their investment. Not many position players, particularly since the steroid era, have stayed on the field and sustained their WAR into their thirties. Like anyone? A couple pitchers, maybe Beltre? A lot of Trout investors were blinded by Vegas Dave, Trout's exponential gain in value, and the disbelief that his career could get derailed.

The question now is--if this is injury is as serious as the article portends, how much "worse" is new Trout? Is the new Trout the guy that hit .225 in June and July, with a 35% K percentage? Will the normal Trout be a guy that we hope to make it through 100 games? Can new Trout still hit .275 with 40 bombs over 140 games?

We could be getting into Tulo territory really quickly. You hope to manage the injuries, and he's usually pretty great when healthy--look at Tulo's second half of 2014... but that Trout contract looks NASTY when you see he's signed through 2030. You'll see an immense softening on Trout prices, PSA 10 rookies will drop down to $750, before a steady, long-term climb as he hits those late-stage Pujols years, and the Hall of Fame is in sight.

Hate it all you want, but it's the realistic outcome.

[cardsin47]

Originally Posted by BigSlim16

Whether he does come back this year or is shut down till 2023, it looks like a DH role may suit him better moving forward. But with Ohtani in the lineup that’s not going to happen. I’m no doctor, but a rare back condition that requires constant management doesn’t sound like something an everyday CF will be able to play through for very long

Ouch!….(potentially)

[ScooterD]

Like someone else said - I’m sorry to see this news as someone who enjoys watching great baseball players, like Trout (when healthy).

What I don’t get is the hate for Trout. I acknowledge that he is (and has been) injury prone, but even if he never plays again, isn’t his career comparable to a position-playing Koufax with the greatness in the middle (instead of at the end) and without post-season success?

[BigSlim16]

Originally Posted by kyle1707

If he misses rest of season will be interesting where the update Psa 10 ends up

I’d guess they’d be in the 1.2k-1.4k range, but definitely wouldn’t shock me if they dropped below 1k at some point

[BigSlim16]

Originally Posted by ScooterD

Like someone else said - I’m sorry to see this news as someone who enjoys watching great baseball players, like Trout (when healthy).

What I don’t get is the hate for Trout. I acknowledge that he is (and has been) injury prone, but even if he never plays again, isn’t his career comparable to a position-playing Koufax with the greatness in the middle (instead of at the end) and without post-season success?

I never really thought about that, but that’s not the worst comp in the world. 3 CYs in 4 years for Koufax, 3 MVPs in 6 years for Trout

[GMRide27]

So his career stops now - does he still make the HOF?

[beavers]

Doesn't sound great. Hopefully he can get healthy and on a winning team...

[BigSlim16]

Originally Posted by Marc22a

I have a hunch Mike Frostad isn’t going to be the Athletics head trainer much longer. True or not, this kind of revelation is way too hyperbolic to just be casually dropped by anyone other than the player himself or the GM.

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Trainer should have kept his mouth shut

[Boredlawyer]

Originally Posted by BigSlim16

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Trainer should have kept his mouth shut

"the goal" to get back on the field with 9 weeks of the season left is player-speak for, see you in 2023.

[jmcca170]

Sucks to hear this… would have to think that whenever he does come back, his days in center field are over.


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[JRX]

Originally Posted by BigSlim16

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Trainer should have kept his mouth shut

Trout obviously knows less about his condition than the posters on blowout.

[Ferg1945]

Originally Posted by BigSlim16

I’d guess they’d be in the 1.2k-1.4k range, but definitely wouldn’t shock me if they dropped below 1k at some point

He missed over half the season last year and if he misses the rest of this season with a back issue that likely hampers him the rest of his career.... below $1K is a given... $500-600 is likely the range

He's still a first ballot HOFer but just look at Pujols after the Cardinals... shell of his former self because of his foot problems. Back problems are just as bad... if not worse for an everyday position player. If he can DH... he'll be able to manage it.

Angels should look HARD at Ohtani trade offers. Cash in while the iron is hot... you can't have 2 DHs on the roster and you know there is no way they limit him to only pitching. TRADE HIM!

[Ferg1945]

Originally Posted by Boredlawyer

"the goal" to get back on the field with 9 weeks of the season left is player-speak for, see you in 2023.

Similar to what we heard last year. And he never returned.

I see the same for this season.

[Ferg1945]

Originally Posted by JRX

Trout obviously knows less about his condition than the posters on blowout.

Yeah...because a bad back at 30...about to be 31 is something that just gets better all of a sudden. His career isn't over, but being a full time CFer isn't the best option.

Remember all the flack Joe Maddon got when he said Trout might transition to one of the corner OF positions? Guess who was right?? And guess who was run out of town because Trout quit on him. Yep... the same person.

[JRX]

Originally Posted by Ferg1945

Yeah...because a bad back at 30...about to be 31 is something that just gets better all of a sudden. His career isn't over, but being a full time CFer isn't the best option.

Remember all the flack Joe Maddon got when he said Trout might transition to one of the corner OF positions? Guess who was right?? And guess who was run out of town because Trout quit on him. Yep... the same person.

You're right, he's actually dead but just doesn't know it yet.