Durant requests a trade - Page 5

mossoholic · 06-30-2022, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by drobfan8

Yikes.

How about, he should sack up, take some responsibility and come back better.

Dude is a coward.

He is not winning again. Doesn't matter where he goes. He showed that he won when he went to a championship team, not a team of champions.

He can win again the same way he won the last 2 times. Join a team that is already the best or one of the couple best teams in the league without him.

SupermanBrandon · 06-30-2022, 03:34 PM

Damn this generation is soft!

apb4 · 06-30-2022, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

Nets could tank. And honestly should tank. They’re not winning anything, so may as well lose a bunch of games for as little dollars as required by the league.

It’s hard to go full tank when you don’t own any of your picks. This is really going to be fascinating which direction they go. I’m not sure there is a good answer either way other then they are screwed.

asujbl · 06-30-2022, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SupermanBrandon

Damn this generation is soft!

He’s 34

He’s close to most of our generation

He as soft when he went to GS

Now he’s just a lame old man

tjforce · 06-30-2022, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by apb4

It’s hard to go full tank when you don’t own any of your picks. This is really going to be fascinating which direction they go. I’m not sure there is a good answer either way other then they are screwed.

Agree with you there.

It's either trade KD for ready contenders level guys, or move he and Kyrie for as many young and talented players as you can get.

RogerGodahell · 06-30-2022, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by mossoholic

He can win again the same way he won the last 2 times. Join a team that is already the best or one of the couple best teams in the league without him.

He could but he wants the alpha title. He's better on a team playing Robin. I don't think he's mentally tough enough to lead a team or should. Great Robin though for any contender just doesn't have leadership qualities.

49ersSF · 06-30-2022, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

Nets could tank. And honestly should tank. They’re not winning anything, so may as well lose a bunch of games for as little dollars as required by the league.

It appears the Rockets have the right to swap picks with the Nets in 2023. So even if they tank...they lose.

rms13 · 06-30-2022, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

Nets could tank. And honestly should tank. They’re not winning anything, so may as well lose a bunch of games for as little dollars as required by the league.

Except they don’t have real first round pick until 2028 because of all their pick swaps so tanking mostly helps Houston build a championship team

beavers · 06-30-2022, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by apb4

It’s hard to go full tank when you don’t own any of your picks. This is really going to be fascinating which direction they go. I’m not sure there is a good answer either way other then they are screwed.

If they move KD, Ben, & Kyrie they could have a record amount of picks.

asujbl · 06-30-2022, 03:40 PM

Remember when Durant fought with LeBron on live TV because he wanted Darius Garland on his AS team? Just saying

Kidding. Nets would want Mobley back.

Hard pass

KhalDrogo · 06-30-2022, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by apb4

It’s hard to go full tank when you don’t own any of your picks. This is really going to be fascinating which direction they go. I’m not sure there is a good answer either way other then they are screwed.

They can go full tank mode the way the Pirates do. Don’t even bother ever trying to contend. Just compose a roster with a team salary under the cap, and pay out the difference to the guys on the roster once the deadline hits to meet the cap. Thunder did it this past year. Owner doesn’t get to have a winning franchise, but does get to make good money.

The Nets are in such a bad position for years to come that it’s futile even trying to compete.

Nomad · 06-30-2022, 03:44 PM

When tank is involved, as with Spurs dealing Murray, I guess the name of projected top 2023 pick Victor Wembanyama comes up. Could Nets pursue a similar strategy?

Siberian13 · 06-30-2022, 03:45 PM

No clue why anyone would want this old dude for what they’d have to give up. Then watch him leave after he can’t win again. So much risk. Now the Nets are done for a decade.

JustinVerlander07 · 06-30-2022, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Nomad

When tank is involved, as with Spurs dealing Murray, I guess the name of projected top 2023 pick Victor Wembanyama comes up. Could Nets pursue a similar strategy?

They don't own their pick in 2023.

asujbl · 06-30-2022, 03:49 PM

How do we get Durant, Harden, and Westbrook all back in OKC?

RogerGodahell · 06-30-2022, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Siberian13

No clue why anyone would want this old dude for what they’d have to give up. Then watch him leave after he can’t win again. So much risk. Now the Nets are done for a decade.

Desperation to win a championship and the hope he'll stay for at least 4 years. I'd take him over Kyrie all day. They're both similar personalities but KD's a better player and Kyrie is a little more nuts and mentally unstable.

hairyangryfella · 06-30-2022, 03:49 PM

I'm totally shocked by this. Kyrie said he'd come back, why is KD suddenly wanting to leave?
The Nets got rid of a decent young team when letting go of Allen and LeVert, to get KD, and now it's for what?
Also, trading a FIRST for Royce? Wtf were they thinking??

kaisersoze · 06-30-2022, 03:49 PM

picks, dylan dyson, mccollum and ingram for durant (edit) and joe harris to match salaries

49ersSF · 06-30-2022, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Nomad

When tank is involved, as with Spurs dealing Murray, I guess the name of projected top 2023 pick Victor Wembanyama comes up. Could Nets pursue a similar strategy?

Not only Victor but the entire top 15 of next years draft is loaded including 4 other potential major superstars in Scoop, the Thompson Twins, and Nick Smith. Not to mention Cam Whitmore, Keyonte George, and Dariq Whitehead. This draft is ridiculous.

tjforce · 06-30-2022, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by beavers

If they move KD, Ben, & Kyrie they could have a record amount of picks.

But tanking still doesn't help them because they aren't their picks.

elontusk1119 · 06-30-2022, 03:50 PM

how much does Warriors winning a title this quickly after he left factor into his decision?

btmcrushers · 06-30-2022, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Nomad

When tank is involved, as with Spurs dealing Murray, I guess the name of projected top 2023 pick Victor Wembanyama comes up. Could Nets pursue a similar strategy?

Houston holds their pick for next year so not really wise.

Hawks should offer whatever combination of non-Trea and DJM players - Collins/Huerter/Capela/Hunter/OO/Bogi/Griffin/JJ/Coop - 2023 1st unprotected and whatever other 1st they can trade after the DJM trade - think it would have to be a swap or 2029.

They will flip Kyrie for Russ, Horton and a 1st likely.

This gives Brooklyn enough players, including Ben, to still be competitive so Houston does not get a top-5 pick but also helps give them picks back for future drafts.

Russ - Bogi - Dre - Simmons - Collins + Tucker, Claxton, Huerter/OO off the bench - not overly sexy but still better than OKC, Orlando, Houston, Detroit , Spurs

Miami cannot trade Bam due to some odd rule - so they are out. Herro, Lowry, Duncan and picks ain't getting it done.

Scottish Punk · 06-30-2022, 03:56 PM

Oddly, the best move for the Nets to go for a last playoff spot. The purgatory teams don't want to be in. Full tanking really only helps Houston. They need to trade their stars for other teams draft picks and get some mid tier professional players. You will need to wait out a bit until your own draft picks have value. With professional players, maybe you can change the culture enough for young players to develop well and be ready for the future.

49ersSF · 06-30-2022, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by elontusk1119

how much does Warriors winning a title this quickly after he left factor into his decision?

I think the decision is pretty simple. KD is 34 years old. He knows he has maybe 3 great years left so why would he want to waste his remaining short time in Brooklyn where he spent the last 2 years dealing with the chaos of whether Kyrie and Ben would or would not play and James Harden deciding he didn't want to play with the team anymore.

If you only have a couple years left why would you not want to find a much better situation to play your remaining years.

There is not a person on this board that would not leave their current job if everyday they went to work and it was completely dysfunctional. Why would you not want to go work somewhere else where you had people that came to work and worked together rather than always calling out sick forcing you to always pick up their slack.

drobfan8 · 06-30-2022, 03:59 PM

I like how people think KD will bring back a packet of chips.

They will get a nice haul for him.

Kyrie, not so much.

Simmons may have to play and show something before they get any real value for him.

They might as well go and chase some bums on seats. I still can't believe the picks they gave up for Harden.

Sean Marks was doing so well. Gulp

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06-30-2022, 03:49 PM	#115
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06-30-2022, 03:49 PM	#118
kaisersoze Member Join Date: Jun 2021 Posts: 745	picks, dylan dyson, mccollum and ingram for durant (edit) and joe harris to match salaries Last edited by kaisersoze; 06-30-2022 at 08:53 PM.

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drobfan8 Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 17,873 drobfan8 drobfan8	I like how people think KD will bring back a packet of chips. They will get a nice haul for him. Kyrie, not so much. Simmons may have to play and show something before they get any real value for him. They might as well go and chase some bums on seats. I still can't believe the picks they gave up for Harden. Sean Marks was doing so well. Gulp __________________ Wanted, 03/04 Exquisite Base Gold Tim Duncan and 05/06 Exquisite Base Gold /25 Michael Jordan

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SupermanBrandon Banned Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: TN Posts: 15,843	Damn this generation is soft!

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Nomad Banned Join Date: Jul 2021 Location: Fomenting FOMO on the down low. Posts: 8,094	When tank is involved, as with Spurs dealing Murray, I guess the name of projected top 2023 pick Victor Wembanyama comes up. Could Nets pursue a similar strategy?

06-30-2022, 03:45 PM	#113
Siberian13 Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 80,296 shiller13	No clue why anyone would want this old dude for what they’d have to give up. Then watch him leave after he can’t win again. So much risk. Now the Nets are done for a decade.

06-30-2022, 03:49 PM	#117
hairyangryfella Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: New Zealand Posts: 13,219	I'm totally shocked by this. Kyrie said he'd come back, why is KD suddenly wanting to leave? The Nets got rid of a decent young team when letting go of Allen and LeVert, to get KD, and now it's for what? Also, trading a FIRST for Royce? Wtf were they thinking??

06-30-2022, 03:50 PM	#121
elontusk1119 Member Join Date: Dec 2020 Posts: 488	how much does Warriors winning a title this quickly after he left factor into his decision?

06-30-2022, 03:56 PM	#123
Scottish Punk Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 10,191 scottishpunk	Oddly, the best move for the Nets to go for a last playoff spot. The purgatory teams don't want to be in. Full tanking really only helps Houston. They need to trade their stars for other teams draft picks and get some mid tier professional players. You will need to wait out a bit until your own draft picks have value. With professional players, maybe you can change the culture enough for young players to develop well and be ready for the future.