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Old 05-17-2022, 01:02 PM   #226
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Okay I did my best to transcribe just a little bit of the video here. This is NOT related to the attempted stealing of the redemption, but I thought it was at the very least, EXTREMELY telling of something. If somebody treated me like this in public I'd walk right that second. This is supposed to be his employee I guess.


@7:35 Fat Guy walks in and says to the assistant dude:
"move, get the #@#@#@#@ out of the way. Take the garbage out. Damnit
Hey I need one more garbage too.


Then shortly thereafter.

@8:10
FG "Aus - Me, just so you know. Me, and um.. Jojo have been
talking"

Aus- "okay"
FG- "And I think that you're gonna be fired soon"
Aus- "Is that so?"
FG- "I'm dead serious"
Aus- "Really?"
FG- "Yes"
Aus- "Okay"
FG- "I'm not kidding you bro"
Aus- "I'm not either"


1 - this guys treats his employees like garbage. 2 - if he was not just hamming it up for the camera to throw suspicion off his hands, he did it in the most disrespectful way possible to an employee. If you need to have that conversation do it in private. ESPECIALLY do not do it in front of an audience.
It's sort of their "schtick"... Austin gets "fired" by G about 3-4 times a week. It's pretty lame, because I'd much rather break with Austin than G.

I've given the whole thing some thought, and asked myself what I would do in the instance if I had genuinely made a mistake of leaving a card in a box of NT and was called out on camera. I personally would be so embarrassed by the situation and feel incredibly bad that I almost lost someone's card in $20k case break. Aside from an immediate apology for being reckless, I'd probably offer something to guy that almost got screwed... It'd certainly be an eye-opener that I need to slow down and be much more careful with what I'm doing.

His reaction of "I throw cards away all the time! No big deal!" as he continues to thrash around breaks really irritates me.
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Old 05-17-2022, 01:04 PM   #227
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It's sort of their "schtick"... Austin gets "fired" by G about 3-4 times a week. It's pretty lame, because I'd much rather break with Austin than G.

I've given the whole thing some thought, and asked myself what I would do in the instance if I had genuinely made a mistake of leaving a card in a box of NT and was called out on camera. I personally would be so embarrassed by the situation and feel incredibly bad that I almost lost someone's card in $20k case break. Aside from an immediate apology for being reckless, I'd probably offer something to guy that almost got screwed... It'd certainly be an eye-opener that I need to slow down and be much more careful with what I'm doing.

His reaction of "I throw cards away all the time! No big deal!" as he continues to thrash around breaks really irritates me.
It wasn't a "mistake" though.
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Old 05-17-2022, 01:04 PM   #228
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It's sort of their "schtick"... Austin gets "fired" by G about 3-4 times a week. It's pretty lame, because I'd much rather break with Austin than G.

I've given the whole thing some thought, and asked myself what I would do in the instance if I had genuinely made a mistake of leaving a card in a box of NT and was called out on camera. I personally would be so embarrassed by the situation and feel incredibly bad that I almost lost someone's card in $20k case break. Aside from an immediate apology for being reckless, I'd probably offer something to guy that almost got screwed... It'd certainly be an eye-opener that I need to slow down and be much more careful with what I'm doing.

His reaction of "I throw cards away all the time! No big deal!" as he continues to thrash around breaks really irritates me.
I've never watched them before so when I watched this video it just kinda rubbed me the wrong way. I guess just being a douche attracts a certain type of people. Not surprising.

EDIT: But I completely agree. I'd be extremely embarrassed and apologetic if I did something like that. I'd have even offered something to the guy who called it out on stream too.
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Old 05-17-2022, 01:05 PM   #229
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But yea, that's definitely the kind of collector we should hope leaves. Lets just continue letting the influencers take over, the greedy/seedy dealers do their thing and the sports card geeks that put together videos like this exposing scammers and trolling/blackballing/bullying them on all forms of social media. That definitely should put the hobby in a good place to grow.
Again? Comeon Grizz. OP is a Geek, because he put together a scammer video to draw light to what they saw?

It should just be ignored, so the hobby can continue to grow?

Grow it might, but giving a pass to scammers just so that can happen, isn't the growth most are hoping for. It is just allowing more scammers in, and the scammers that are already here, will get a free pass.

You cant honestly believe the stuff you are writing, can you?

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Old 05-17-2022, 01:06 PM   #230
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It wasn't a "mistake" though.
That's the point. He acted extremely suspiciously, unlike what a normal person would after such a huge "blunder".
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Old 05-17-2022, 01:08 PM   #231
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It wasn't a "mistake" though.



NO WAY what he did was a "mistake" it was theft.
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Old 05-17-2022, 01:16 PM   #232
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Ah...the same guy that cut the card up years ago. Makes complete sense.

Whenever a response video talks about the "haterz", it's basically a complete admission of guilt. That's the go to move.

Also, it's weird for a breaker to say "I love you all to death." Do people really believe that breakers personally care about them outside of the $$?
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Old 05-17-2022, 01:17 PM   #233
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Ah...the same guy that cut the card up years ago. Makes complete sense.

Whenever a response video talks about the "haterz", it's basically a complete admission of guilt. That's the go to move.
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Old 05-17-2022, 01:20 PM   #234
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To the card cutting? Someone claimed he damaged the cards by how he put them in a one touch (clamped on the edges). He got the card back (by purchasing it) and then this.

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Old 05-17-2022, 01:22 PM   #235
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I've got 50 bucks on Grizz in a Grizz vs Khal Drogo bare knuckle brawl
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Old 05-17-2022, 01:25 PM   #236
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It's sort of their "schtick"... Austin gets "fired" by G about 3-4 times a week. It's pretty lame, because I'd much rather break with Austin than G.

I've given the whole thing some thought, and asked myself what I would do in the instance if I had genuinely made a mistake of leaving a card in a box of NT and was called out on camera. I personally would be so embarrassed by the situation and feel incredibly bad that I almost lost someone's card in $20k case break. Aside from an immediate apology for being reckless, I'd probably offer something to guy that almost got screwed... It'd certainly be an eye-opener that I need to slow down and be much more careful with what I'm doing.

His reaction of "I throw cards away all the time! No big deal!" as he continues to thrash around breaks really irritates me.
Agreed. There are people spending tens of thousands of dollars each break and doing so with the confidence that the breakers are honest, careful, and on the up and up. People point out the schtick and I have never had a problem with any of their schtick. It's entertainment such as G fake firing Austin for years. I have zero problem with that.

The actual problem with his comment is that when he is tossing out comments about his previous actions that were beyond reckless to justify in an attempt to cover up his actions caught on the video. It's as if he is pouring gasoline while trying to put out the fire. Now you leave your entire client base questioning everything Platinum Breaks has done in the past by bringing up the past and previous cards and boxes you have "accidentally" tossed. Of course, they should already be questioning this given the slight of hand attempt caught red handed on video which is the primary issue at hand.
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Old 05-17-2022, 01:25 PM   #237
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I'd pay $50 just to see that
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Old 05-17-2022, 01:27 PM   #238
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I'd put 50 on Grizz because he'd be the dog.
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Old 05-17-2022, 01:28 PM   #239
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Agreed. There are people spending tens of thousands of dollars each break and doing so with the confidence that the breakers are honest, careful, and on the up and up. People point out the schtick and I have never had a problem with any of their schtick. It's entertainment such as G fake firing Austin for years. I have zero problem with that.
Like I said I haven't watched them before so I had no idea that was a thing. It seemed super disrespectful and off putting to me out of context. Still not a fan of it but I'd let that slide if there weren't 1000 more red flags.
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Old 05-17-2022, 01:32 PM   #241
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Old 05-17-2022, 01:33 PM   #242
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I wonder if "G" met up in the parking lot with someone named "E" and sold them the redemption
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Old 05-17-2022, 01:36 PM   #243
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If you don't know about NT, or maybe even breaks, then I really don't understand why you would disagree with anything anyone is saying.

NT, as many other higher end Panini brands, typically have the redemption at the bottom/top of the box. And they are mostly white, which blends in with the inside of the box itself. Making it an easier grift to pull off.

Opening and stacking all the cards from the case in one big pile, makes it much less obvious that a single card was missing.

If it was you, opening a case on your own, box by box, I am sure you would have noticed a missing hit.

In this case, it was a group break by team. So, your focus at the end of the break was if you hit anything, with your 1 in 32 chance. And not recounting all the possible hits there should have been. Which again, would make doing something like this easier to do.
So far the only example we have of his customers attention to detail is OP who made a 20 minute video dissecting every move the guy made. But yes of course, we should still safely assume all of these high value spot owners are asleep at the wheel and wouldn't notice a missing auto from a product who's value is entirely dependent on said autos
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Old 05-17-2022, 01:44 PM   #244
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The only thing I was getting at when I mentioned the someone who has never broken with them before part was that there is always a lot of chatter/chirping when something like this happens and everyone gives their opinion.

If I were them (assuming he is innocent and it was just a mistake) I would have to block out the noise and remind myself that these people aren't important. They're just here for the show and trying to jump on an online bully bandwagon where the majority of people talking didn't even know who he was a day ago and have never/ would never have never spent a dollar with him

If he is guilty, he does deserve to be exposed, but I think there is far too much guilty until proven innocent in this hobby currently and there are a ton of "hobbyists" on social media who all feel the need to pile on when they smell blood in the water.
Twice now you are referring to a call out as bullying. This is all we have. Innocent until proven guilty works in a court of law. Very rarely do hobby scams make it that far.

What we have, is each other. Its sharing a list of names from ebay scammers, once we ourselves have been scammed. Its posting PBM ID's in threads, to keep others from getting conned.

You call it "chirping" I call it warning. Is it always 100% fair? No. But others have bounced into call it threads before, and flipped the script on those doing the calling when the "facts" didn't add up.

The hobby has social media, public forums and word of mouth to others when things like this happen. It may not be perfect, but it is what we have. If Platinum didn't do anything wrong, then none of this would hurt them.

But it sure seems like a stream on endless rants from them, downplaying the situation by attacking the player, and the value of the redemption and just otherwise showing who they are in response.
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So far the only example we have of his customers attention to detail is OP who made a 20 minute video dissecting every move the guy made. But yes of course, we should still safely assume all of these high value spot owners are asleep at the wheel and wouldn't notice a missing auto from a product who's value is entirely dependent on said autos
What? Obviously people were not asleep at the wheel, and that is why this got called out. I truly dont understand your rant.

They got called out during the scam. Someone who was breaking with them, saw what happened. And said so during the stream. That is what lead to the entire chain of events. From the hiding box to the left, to the fake garbage dive, to the endless excuses from them on how/why it happened.

OP made the video. And the video happened because someone caught them in the act.

I didn't tell you it was a good scam. I explained how a scam like this works. Google "Brandon Cooks 99" which is probably the most famous breaker stealing a card scam out there.
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This situation and some of the posts here make me tired.

A crazy old wizard once said "you will find that many of the truths we cling to depend greatly upon our point of view"

Of course he said this to take the heat off of him for not telling Luke that (40 year old spoiler alert) Darth was Luke's dad.
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To the card cutting? Someone claimed he damaged the cards by how he put them in a one touch (clamped on the edges). He got the card back (by purchasing it) and then this.

https://twitter.com/CardsChop/status...09671839629312
I can’t believe people let this POS break for them
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