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Old 04-07-2022, 09:50 AM   #26
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Yes exactly.

After all, this is a Hobby.

Weird I know.
Right? God forbid a Lebron or MJ fan can get an attractive auto card for a more reasonable price.
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Old 04-07-2022, 10:25 AM   #27
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Only way is if:

a. Upper Deck goes belly up.
b. Upper Deck gets purchased by Fanatics

I'm not sure about Lebron, but I'm pretty sure Jordan has an ownership stake in UD. They're not going anywhere until UD does.
Even if either scenario happens, no one is going to force Bron and/or MJ to sign anything.

If they want to sign, they will. If they don't, they won't.
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Old 04-07-2022, 11:08 AM   #28
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Best brand in existence I just wish I owned more NBA. But here is one of my favs in my PC.

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Old 04-07-2022, 11:22 AM   #29
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I would say SP Authentic then Ultimate.


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Exquisite then Ultimate at the #2 spot.
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Old 04-07-2022, 12:43 PM   #30
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Exquisite then Ultimate at the #2 spot.
This, absolutely. Everything Ultimate is lower serial numbered on average over SP Authentic. From /100 auto to rookies being /250 (most years).
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Old 04-07-2022, 12:55 PM   #31
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Personally I've got:

Exquisite
SP Authentic
Ultimate

But then again that's because I'm a huge NFL simp

Honestly seems like all three are the trifecta no matter how you chalk them up.

Truly the best sets ever imo. Sorry, NT....these big three have you beat.
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Old 04-07-2022, 01:01 PM   #32
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Personally I've got:

Exquisite
SP Authentic
Ultimate

But then again that's because I'm a huge NFL simp

Honestly seems like all three are the trifecta no matter how you chalk them up.

Truly the best sets ever imo. Sorry, NT....these big three have you beat.
UD Black vote here
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Old 04-07-2022, 02:15 PM   #33
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I wonder where the D Rose 1/1 rpa is today
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Old 04-07-2022, 03:11 PM   #34
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It's in the name
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Old 04-07-2022, 06:39 PM   #35
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Right? God forbid a Lebron or MJ fan can get an attractive auto card for a more reasonable price.
It's pathetic how greedy people can be.

There's even a Tim Duncan collector on these boards that doesn't want TD to sign with Panini. Like WTF.

Get out of this Hobby.

Bring on a flood of Autos. And let the cream rise to the top, and the lower end stuff be accessible.

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Best brand in existence I just wish I owned more NBA. But here is one of my favs in my PC.

Oh man. That is a nice card.

I saw a pretty sick Exquisite Kuminga pop up. Man I hope we see it back.

Or a company could just rip off the design and put out the quality. I guess they don't need to. Cough cough, recent Flawless.
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Old 04-07-2022, 06:39 PM   #36
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Exq
UD Black
Ultimate

sounds about right.
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Old 04-07-2022, 06:51 PM   #37
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From that period what would be 2nd behind Exquisite?
In terms of popularity, there’s nothing close to it, exquisite is number 1, then maybe ultimate at number 10 (nothing in between). The value of other sets in that period don’t really come close to exquisite.
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Old 04-07-2022, 07:21 PM   #38
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I saw a pretty sick Exquisite Kuminga pop up. Man I hope we see it back.

Or a company could just rip off the design and put out the quality. I guess they don't need to. Cough cough, recent Flawless.
The Exquisite name is irreplaceable. Panini can try all they want with National Treasures and Flawless... and Fanatics can try all they want to mimic Exquisite with their own high end premium cards, but they can never come close to the originals.
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Old 04-08-2022, 08:53 AM   #39
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In terms of popularity, there’s nothing close to it, exquisite is number 1, then maybe ultimate at number 10 (nothing in between). The value of other sets in that period don’t really come close to exquisite.
Ultimate is #2, then SPA, but you put it nicely because Exquisite is #1 by a huge margin.
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Old 04-08-2022, 11:24 AM   #40
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mistake reply, wrong post, sorry lol .
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Old 04-08-2022, 01:29 PM   #41
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Exquisite, cream of the crop. most get bought and in PC, hoarded and locked up forever. Limited supply, increasing demand causing steady rise historically and years out likely as well.

Here's the official ranking (excluding Exquisite logomans) (all 2003-2009, nba licensed):
Exquisite RPA
Exquisite Limited Logos
Exquisite Emblems of Endorsements
Exquisite Number Pieces (close 4th)
Exquisite Noble Nameplates
Exquisite Patches
Exquisite Collection
Exquisite Non-Auto

Ud Black
Ultimate
SP Authentic
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Old 04-09-2022, 06:08 PM   #42
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I'd put Number Pieces 3rd.
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Old 04-09-2022, 06:47 PM   #43
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Hierarchy for me is:

Exquisite
Ultimate Collection
SP Authentic
SPX - soft spot for those early years with on card autos...too bad the auto checklists sucked. The trap autos ruined the brand
Black
Finite
SP GU
Premier

Probably forgot a brand somewhere.
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Old 04-12-2022, 08:10 PM   #44
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is 2003 exquisite considered even more premium then the other years?
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is 2003 exquisite considered even more premium then the other years?
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Old 04-13-2022, 07:57 AM   #46
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Hierarchy for me is:

Exquisite
Ultimate Collection
SP Authentic
SPX - soft spot for those early years with on card autos...too bad the auto checklists sucked. The trap autos ruined the brand
Black
Finite
SP GU
Premier

Probably forgot a brand somewhere.
I miss UD
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Old 04-13-2022, 09:01 AM   #47
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I miss UD
SP Authentic or Spx might be great buys as singles from eBay, but they were terrible in terms of getting expected values from opening boxes. Sp Authentic usually guarantees one auto and two gu, with no desirable inserts and no value for base cards. Most of the time you'll spend like $100/box and get $5-$10 in value, unless you get a hot rc auto or some in demand veteran auto, which are rare, Spx is very similar.
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Old 04-13-2022, 09:07 AM   #48
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SP Authentic or Spx might be great buys as singles from eBay, but they were terrible in terms of getting expected values from opening boxes. Sp Authentic usually guarantees one auto and two gu, with no desirable inserts and no value for base cards. Most of the time you'll spend like $100/box and get $5-$10 in value, unless you get a hot rc auto or some in demand veteran auto, which are rare, Spx is very similar.
For sure. I don't remember the last time I ripped UD (or anything else, really). Singles all the way.

I was just talking with someone about the 2008 Epic Signatures Update Set. Those were in Ultimate and fell 1/case in (maybe less). Much better off just buying those singles.
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Old 04-13-2022, 04:11 PM   #49
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Hierarchy for me is:

Exquisite
Ultimate Collection
SP Authentic
SPX - soft spot for those early years with on card autos...too bad the auto checklists sucked. The trap autos ruined the brand
Black
Finite
SP GU
Premier

Probably forgot a brand somewhere.
Forgot about Chronology. From the perspective of ripping those boxes at the release prices, my order would be:

Exquisite
Ultimate Collection
Black
Chronology
SP GU
Premier
Sp Signature
Finite
SP Authentic
SPX
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Forgot about Chronology. From the perspective of ripping those boxes at the release prices, my order would be:

Exquisite
Ultimate Collection
Black
Chronology
SP GU
Premier
Sp Signature
Finite
SP Authentic
SPX
At release price you gotta move Chronology above UD Black imo, I ripped a lot of both and love both. A case of Chrono came with a guaranteed A hit in 2007-08 for about $1k, versus a 6-box of Black for a lot more [and many fewer cards].

Ultimate was a great break when prices dipped to $300 for 4 autos, 7 mem, 1 rookie auto mem, and 4 base.
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