First Buzz: 2022 Panini Prizm WWE cards (will update)

[Ferg1945]

Originally Posted by PrinceVegeta

Bought one card so far...market is out of whack

I've bought 3 and I'll probably regret the prices Ive paid in a few days.

The ohhhhh... it's Shiny and New got me tonight.

[mfisher27]

Bought a box from the LCS this afternoon, very happy with the results
Other Silver/Hyper/Ruby wave too but didn't add them in the picture

The Rock is a purple /149

Break 1 by Matthew Fisher, on Flickr

[SteigerWRX]

No Macho Man is a shame.

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[IronCladLou]

Stock disappearing at all the big places

Layton still got a few

[Brobocop]

Originally Posted by IronCladLou

Stock disappearing at all the big places

Layton still got a few

Not to be a Debbie Downer but this feels like them pulling stock not because they’re sold out but because they don’t want to leave money on the table. Boxes will just continue to be delisted higher and higher until they stop moving.


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[IronCladLou]

Originally Posted by Brobocop

Not to be a Debbie Downer but this feels like them pulling stock not because they’re sold out but because they don’t want to leave money on the table. Boxes will just continue to be delisted higher and higher until they stop moving.


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True. And people will snap them up when they appear.

I am surprised they just don't break more of them. Surely they make more of the breaks

[Jon G]

Originally Posted by Brobocop

Not to be a Debbie Downer but this feels like them pulling stock not because they’re sold out but because they don’t want to leave money on the table. Boxes will just continue to be delisted higher and higher until they stop moving.
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No offense, but what you “feel” and what is actually happening with this product appears to be horribly incongruent.

[IronCladLou]

Originally Posted by Jon G

No offense, but what you “feel” and what is actually happening with this product appears to be horribly incongruent.

I "feel" the hype and quality of the product is getting people buying now because it's just going to skyrocket to the moon!

[Brobocop]

Originally Posted by Jon G

No offense, but what you “feel” and what is actually happening with this product appears to be horribly incongruent.

You’re right, the big online sellers have never played games like this over the past two years when wax has exploded in price.

If people truly think these boxes and cards are scarce then you do you. Boxes seem to have more unnumbered Prizms in them than numbered which tells me they cranked the presses on this.

Nice looking product and honestly, I’d rip a box or two of it was around $800 but as prices continue to go up on wax, and the majority of single prices come down as more is listed, people who do open in the future will be more and more likely to lose their hat.


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[IronCladLou]

Originally Posted by Brobocop

You’re right, the big online sellers have never played games like this over the past two years when wax has exploded in price.

If people truly think these boxes and cards are scarce then you do you. Boxes seem to have more unnumbered Prizms in them than numbered which tells me they cranked the presses on this.

I wonder if it's true that the print run on this hobby release is much smaller than other sports.

retail will be printed like crazy

[Brobocop]

Originally Posted by IronCladLou

I wonder if it's true that the print run on this hobby release is much smaller than other sports.

retail will be printed like crazy

People said that about UFC Prizm last year. While it might be more SP than NFL or NBA, the print run is still astronomical compared to most releases.

Again, cool product and I almost bit the bullet and bought a FOTL box last night for $2k but more often than not, singles cool way down when the initial hype dies off and credit card bills come due while wax prices continue to climb. The equilibrium between the two is way off, not just for this, but in general. The ceiling might be a bit higher but that just means when busting wax, those floors become even more painful.

Trust me, I bought tens of thousands in wax years ago so I know full and well that breaking wax is a losing proposition. It's just magnified now ten fold with how high prices have gotten.

[t6p]

Boxes "back in stock" at BO for $1299. At this rate retail is going to be tough to get even if the print run is crazy.

[machine74]

Ebay results suggest buying into a 12x hobby box break will cost:
$15-25 for Level 1 wrestlers (Montez Ford)
$50-100 for Level 2 (Lashley to Big E)
$100-$500 for Legends (Foley to Austin)
Over $1k for Bron Breakker
Over $2k for dual signatures (straight purchase)

I'm debating on if it's worth dropping say $250 on HHH. Really I'm after signatures, and those can run much higher, but I do see a lot of more affordable cards....wondering what the field says in their experiences doing breaks with high prices.

[beavers]

I do think hobby is very sp relatively. Heard most distributors got 1 case or less if any at all. Time will tell.

[Malsk]

Originally Posted by t6p

Boxes "back in stock" at BO for $1299. At this rate retail is going to be tough to get even if the print run is crazy.

That did not last long. Gone.

I am not sure retail print run will be crazy. Panini had to look at Topps products and give a best guess on how well they did. I don't think even Panini would have predicted this much demand. Goes to show just how strong the Prizm brand is.

[t6p]

Originally Posted by Malsk

That did not last long. Gone.

I am not sure retail print run will be crazy. Panini had to look at Topps products and give a best guess on how well they did. I don't think even Panini would have predicted this much demand. Goes to show just how strong the Prizm brand is.

They are still available at 2 of the other big 3 for $1349 and $1399. I was planning on waiting to try to get retail but FOMO got the best of me this morning when I saw a box for $975.

Not sure if last year's UFC retail was any indication of how this will do, but those blasters got down into the $40 range on the secondary market at one point if I remember correctly. This does feel like it's hotter coming out of the gate though. It will obviously sell out instantly if Target or Walmart drop any online.

[BRob1]

Originally Posted by t6p

They are still available at 2 of the other big 3 for $1349 and $1399. I was planning on waiting to try to get retail but FOMO got the best of me this morning when I saw a box for $975.

Not sure if last year's UFC retail was any indication of how this will do, but those blasters got down into the $40 range on the secondary market at one point if I remember correctly. This does feel like it's hotter coming out of the gate though. It will obviously sell out instantly if Target or Walmart drop any online.

Where did you buy at $975?

[t6p]

Originally Posted by BRob1

Where did you buy at $975?

MySlabs. I was surprised I got to it before it was gone. I guess I refreshed at the right time.

[swok]

John Cena/Randy Orton dual auto number 1/25 went for 2800 looks like. First dual auto prizm sale I see

[kdog4187]

Well for what its worth I just watched several copies of the Steveson and Breaker base rookies sell on ebay

3 Stevesons sold back to back to back averaged about 23 bucks
2 Brons sold back to back for about 32 bucks.

That is a FAR cry from the predictions people were making that these were going to be 50 to 100 dollar base cards.

I think after seeing it opened my opinion remains the same... Really cool set but I don't see how people opening boxes are making even half there money back unless they hit one of the big ones... Going to be a blood bath for a lot of people opening single boxes.

[Jon G]

Originally Posted by notoriousrmb

Its FOMO and distributors playing games with pricing.

People buying at the current prices will be holding a sack of regret in a couple months. Just the new shiny toy at the moment.

I just want to memorialize this one. I’m pretty sure it’s not going to age well at all. But not surprising considering the source.

[byronscott4ever]

Originally Posted by kdog4187

Well for what its worth I just watched several copies of the Steveson and Breaker base rookies sell on ebay

3 Stevesons sold back to back to back averaged about 23 bucks
2 Brons sold back to back for about 32 bucks.

That is a FAR cry from the predictions people were making that these were going to be 50 to 100 dollar base cards.

I think after seeing it opened my opinion remains the same... Really cool set but I don't see how people opening boxes are making even half there money back unless they hit one of the big ones... Going to be a blood bath for a lot of people opening single boxes.

Sounds like prospecting in sports where you can get in early for less but if the player explodes then there’s room for growth

[Jon G]

Originally Posted by kdog4187

Well for what its worth I just watched several copies of the Steveson and Breaker base rookies sell on ebay

3 Stevesons sold back to back to back averaged about 23 bucks
2 Brons sold back to back for about 32 bucks.

That is a FAR cry from the predictions people were making that these were going to be 50 to 100 dollar base cards.

I think after seeing it opened my opinion remains the same... Really cool set but I don't see how people opening boxes are making even half there money back unless they hit one of the big ones... Going to be a blood bath for a lot of people opening single boxes.

I don’t think you’re wrong, but couldn’t you literally say that about just about every product today? That’s the thing to me, some of you guys just haven’t adjusted to the new market.

[eastbayak]

Originally Posted by Grizzkid12

IT WAS YOU, YOU JERK! YOU OWE ME $50 AND A PACK OF PANINI FATHER'S DAY CARDS!!!

I went to the same site as you and as I was checking out, they went OOS

Just had to spend an extra $50 somewhere else and no Panini Father's Day pack

Our $775-$825 hobby box preorders are looking good!!

[kdog4187]

Originally Posted by Jon G

I don’t think you’re wrong, but couldn’t you literally say that about just about every product today? That’s the thing to me, some of you guys just haven’t adjusted to the new market.

Oh for sure. I have no interest in adjusting to the market. I do this for fun strictly as a collector. I sell very very little. I find this whole new market interesting and respect to you and others that have used the hobby to turn a profit. I think it's fantastic, it's just not something I have any interest in doing.