Rafael Devers

[MiamiMarlinsFan]

Originally Posted by pewe

Another K for Devers today

His strikeout rate this spring is a worrying signal


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Nothing to worry about at all. Devers is on track for a Top 3 MVP season.

[SaveMeTheGum]

Originally Posted by pewe

Another K for Devers today

His strikeout rate this spring is a worrying signal


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He's striking out once every 4 plate appearances and homering once ever 4.6 plate appearances. I'll take that...

[pewe]

Originally Posted by SaveMeTheGum

He's striking out once every 4 plate appearances and homering once ever 4.6 plate appearances. I'll take that...

I worry we may see regression in at least one of those numbers


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[jordanfanatic22]

Snagged this 2016 BCP orange ref - 11/25 his jersey #

[pewe]

Originally Posted by jordanfanatic22

Snagged this 2016 BCP orange ref - 11/25 his jersey #

Nice pickup! I love those jersey #d cards, too

[MRSPORTSCARD]

Originally Posted by pewe

I worry we may see regression in at least one of those numbers


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I have been watching the Red Sox since 1975. I am a middle aged 50s year old dude and can say honestly that Devers is one of the three greatest Red Sox hitters I ever saw up there with Big Papi and Manny Ramirez.
Interesting fact Devers is only 25 and David Ortiz didn`t get to the Red Sox until he was 27. That`s mind-boggling.
Devers is going to cost money though. He will be 26 going on 27 when he hits the free-agent market. We are looking at a 30 to 35 million dollar a year player. There is no way the Red Sox sign both him and Xander another 30 to 35 million a year player. I rather keep Devers just because he is about 5 years younger than Xander.

[pewe]

Originally Posted by MRSPORTSCARD

I have been watching the Red Sox since 1975. I am a middle aged 50s year old dude and can say honestly that Devers is one of the three greatest Red Sox hitters I ever saw up there with Big Papi and Manny Ramirez.
Interesting fact Devers is only 25 and David Ortiz didn`t get to the Red Sox until he was 27. That`s mind-boggling.
Devers is going to cost money though. He will be 26 going on 27 when he hits the free-agent market. We are looking at a 30 to 35 million dollar a year player. There is no way the Red Sox sign both him and Xander another 30 to 35 million a year player. I rather keep Devers just because he is about 5 years younger than Xander.

Sounds like the Red Sox and Devers/Xander are far apart. They’ve signaled they won’t discuss more until after the season: https://www.bostonglobe.com/2022/04/...outputType=amp

And I understand some of this comes down to the huge $$ difference Devers would be owed if he is a permanent 3B vs. if he’s forced to move to DH: https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/red...-extension?amp


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[SleepyWill]

I wouldn't be surprised if both tested the market to see what was out there, especially Devers.

If he produces in 2022, he may set himself up for the biggest MLB contact signed to date.

[MiamiMarlinsFan]

Originally Posted by pewe

Sounds like the Red Sox and Devers/Xander are far apart. They’ve signaled they won’t discuss more until after the season: https://www.bostonglobe.com/2022/04/...outputType=amp

And I understand some of this comes down to the huge $$ difference Devers would be owed if he is a permanent 3B vs. if he’s forced to move to DH: https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/red...-extension?amp


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I get the feeling the Sox will let Xander walk and try to keep Devers. That would put Devers at 3D, Story at 2B, and Marcelo Mayer at SS (of flip flop Story and Mayer). Once Xander is gone, that will free up more knew to keep Devers.

[seanbros55]

Per MassLive -

The Red Sox recently made an extension offer to star third baseman Rafael Devers but a deal is unlikely to come together before Opening Day, a baseball source said Wednesday afternoon. The sides were described as being “very far off” in negotiations.

Héctor Gómez of Z Deportes first reported the offer, noting that Devers rejected because “it was lower than he is willing to consider."

I sure hope they learned from their Mookie DEBACLE...better pay this guy...and soon.

[pewe]

Originally Posted by seanbros55

Per MassLive -

The Red Sox recently made an extension offer to star third baseman Rafael Devers but a deal is unlikely to come together before Opening Day, a baseball source said Wednesday afternoon. The sides were described as being “very far off” in negotiations.

Héctor Gómez of Z Deportes first reported the offer, noting that Devers rejected because “it was lower than he is willing to consider."

I sure hope they learned from their Mookie DEBACLE...better pay this guy...and soon.

Ya - per the Boston Globe article above, it sounds like they won’t discuss until the seasons over.

Reading between the lines: Devers wants to be paid as a 3B and management wants to pay him as a DH. Management needs to decide if they can stomach him as a 3B, otherwise would be fine with him walking if he can’t come to terms w/being a DH and paid as such


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[rwperu34]

Originally Posted by pewe

Ya - per the Boston Globe article above, it sounds like they won’t discuss until the seasons over.

Reading between the lines: Devers wants to be paid as a 3B and management wants to pay him as a DH. Management needs to decide if they can stomach him as a 3B, otherwise would be fine with him walking if he can’t come to terms w/being a DH and paid as such


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I think the Red Sox are being disingenuous here. If Devers is such a bad fielder that he needs to DH, then moving to DH should increase his value. Of course there's an easy compromise here. Move him to 1B where his glove shouldn't be half bad.

[pewe]

Originally Posted by rwperu34

I think the Red Sox are being disingenuous here. If Devers is such a bad fielder that he needs to DH, then moving to DH should increase his value. Of course there's an easy compromise here. Move him to 1B where his glove shouldn't be half bad.

You can see some of the discussion on whether this is wise, or not.

Really, Devers has a good arm, so that is an asset at 3B. He just has limited range.

https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/red...ract-extension


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[BAHoopla]

Does he rise to the contract challenge and have a career year?

[pewe]

Originally Posted by BAHoopla

Does he rise to the contract challenge and have a career year?

Would be fantastic!!!


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[SleepyWill]

Bloom should be fired if they don't lock Devers up long term here, the Story signing would have made 0 sense if you end up botching on both Xander & Devers.

[SleepyWill]

Devers playing for his contract should be putting up some tasty numbers this year, and I cannot wait to his MVP season.

[waluwhute]

Originally Posted by SleepyWill

Bloom should be fired if they don't lock Devers up long term here, the Story signing would have made 0 sense if you end up botching on both Xander & Devers.

Honestly that story signing makes zero sense as it is. Hope I’m wrong but that signing seemed like a huge head scratcher to me.


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[pewe]

Apparently he was offered a richer contract than JoRam just signed. And that was “not worth even responding to”, I guess.

When Tatis signed his massive contract, Devers commented that’s what he deserved, too. I hope that isn’t still his expectation. As it doesn’t seem like a credible number. And isn’t even worth it w/Tatis, as SD is finding.


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[StateEx]

I like the Story signing, if he stays at second.

[SleepyWill]

Originally Posted by pewe

Apparently he was offered a richer contract than JoRam just signed. And that was “not worth even responding to”, I guess.

When Tatis signed his massive contract, Devers commented that’s what he deserved, too. I hope that isn’t still his expectation. As it doesn’t seem like a credible number. And isn’t even worth it w/Tatis, as SD is finding.


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Well, Tatis has been plagued by injuries from both on & off the field events. Devers for the most part has been steady, and if the goal is to move him to DH, one would hope that would add longevity to his career.

[pewe]

Originally Posted by StateEx

I like the Story signing, if he stays at second.

If they keep Devers and Xander, too, then I whole heartedly agree. A pretty killer infield


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[SleepyWill]

Sox could/should do 10 for $320

[pewe]

Originally Posted by SleepyWill

Well, Tatis has been plagued by injuries from both on & off the field events. Devers for the most part has been steady, and if the goal is to move him to DH, one would hope that would add longevity to his career.

I think the challenge is a move to DH actually reduces his contract comp pricing. JoRam’s contract for a DH would make that player the richest paid DH in the league. And at that point you’d have to ask: would you rather have Yordan or make a play for Vlad Jr. Who might cost the same / less as a DH.


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[SleepyWill]

I believe Stanton is the highest current DH at 30 million annual? I would think for his bat alone, that contract would be worth it?