Due Dilly App …thoughts?

ecua131 · 03-11-2022, 12:46 AM

I’ve been using this app the last few days to “pre-grade” what I will eventually send out for grading.

the app has an AI that assets the corners, edges, centering, and surface of the card…and then gives you a score / comparable grade for BGS / PSA / SGC.

Anyone else using it?

ChaseUA · 03-11-2022, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ecua131

I’ve been using this app the last few days to “pre-grade” what I will eventually send out for grading.

the app has an AI that assets the corners, edges, centering, and surface of the card…and then gives you a score / comparable grade for BGS / PSA / SGC.

Anyone else using it?

Going to be honest. I had never even heard of this app, let alone used it prior to seeing your post. But out of curiosity I downloaded it today and have tried it on about 25 cards already.

I find it extremely intuitive and shows the potential of AI grading. It's everything "CardScore" should have been but they failed to execute.

Area's of improvement:

It should allow one to upload scanned images rather than requiring the photo be taken.
Centering calculations are hit and miss. I'm not sure why, but I have some cards it was recognizing as 80/20 when they are 55/45 at worse. I had another that is obviously 55/45 and it stated 50.00/50.00. Seeing it made me realize that HGA but use similar "AI", ha.
Surface grading seemed a little harsh - but I credit some of that being due to the glare from some of the photos I took. It was recognizing some surface "issues" that upon inspection appeared to have just been glare or part of the card image.
Unable to get it to accurately access already slabbed cards. I wanted to test it against existing grading companies but due to the glare & encasement of cards in slabs I was unable to successfully get one imaged properly despite trying cards in PSA, CSG, BGS, and SGC slabs.

Pro's:

Exceeded expectations on ability to assess corner and edge issues.
Recognized surface wrinkles when I tested it on a couple of cards that I knew had issues but is difficult to capture without really examining the cards.
Is FREE (I have a feeling they will eventually start charging)

My last point of contention is that it seems to be difficult to get it to recognize the possibility of a card scoring a 10. I had several cards that rated an A or better in all categories and it gave the expected score range of 8-9.

All in all, I give it an A+ on effort and cost (free), and a B on execution. It seems really close to being an exceptional tool.

ChaseUA · 03-11-2022, 03:05 PM

Follow-up to the above message, as soon as I posted a response I tried another card and I got my first card that gave a score range that included a 10 (Overall Grade: A), Grade Comparable to: 9-10.

Unfortunately its a Topps A&G Danny McBride Autograph with a print line from the manufacturer that goes across the center of the card and is about .75 inches long. While I have seen similar cards grade a 10, anything from a 7-9 wouldn't surprise me on the card.

dodgernoot · 03-11-2022, 06:09 PM

Fun tool, completely unreliable. I played with it for a bit. Destroyed a 2021 Update Carlos Hernandez RC in the process. It doesn't account for back side surface issues. I took pictures with giant glare marks. It would point them out on the map, but then still give it a A for surface. Pictures without the glare would grade lower. It also doesn't account for Highlighter or Sharpie, front or back. Trimming the card had no effect on the score. My phone was locked in place, the card was in the same spot and 4 times I got 4 different center scores. Between 50/50 and 57/43. The trimmed card was closer to 50/50

YayNJ · 03-11-2022, 06:53 PM

I cracked a cheap CSG 9.5 out to test this. (Chosen because it was a fairly cheap base card, and CSG grading is tough.)

Anyway, the card was graded 9.5 by CSG.

Cent - 9.5
Corners - 10
Edges - 10
Surf - 9.5

Dilly App returned the following...

Grade suggestion - 7 to 8.

Corners - average of B
Centering - A+
Surface - D+
Edges - average of a A

ScattMan · 03-11-2022, 07:57 PM

CardFarmer · 03-21-2022, 06:08 PM

Looks like a neat app. I was going to play around with it, and the first card I grabbed was a 1991 that I pulled from a vending box. It had the obvious 'potato chipping' curve to it. Any idea how to fix this prior to scanning it?

giovipks · 04-06-2022, 05:12 AM

I love the idea but I can’t get a single card to work to be “assessed”. Amy tips? I made sure the box was green and the background of where the card was laying was neutral color. Just can’t get it to work at all

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YayNJ · 04-06-2022, 07:18 AM

Don't waste your time, it's a complete joke.

Assess cards graded 10's as 7's and 8's lol

03-11-2022, 12:46 AM	#1
ecua131 Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 83	Due Dilly App …thoughts? I’ve been using this app the last few days to “pre-grade” what I will eventually send out for grading. the app has an AI that assets the corners, edges, centering, and surface of the card…and then gives you a score / comparable grade for BGS / PSA / SGC. Anyone else using it?

03-11-2022, 06:09 PM	#4
dodgernoot Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Bakersfield CA Posts: 1,115	Fun tool, completely unreliable. I played with it for a bit. Destroyed a 2021 Update Carlos Hernandez RC in the process. It doesn't account for back side surface issues. I took pictures with giant glare marks. It would point them out on the map, but then still give it a A for surface. Pictures without the glare would grade lower. It also doesn't account for Highlighter or Sharpie, front or back. Trimming the card had no effect on the score. My phone was locked in place, the card was in the same spot and 4 times I got 4 different center scores. Between 50/50 and 57/43. The trimmed card was closer to 50/50 __________________ Looking Kershaw, Kelce, Mahomes, Dodgers

03-11-2022, 03:05 PM	#3
ChaseUA Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 777	Follow-up to the above message, as soon as I posted a response I tried another card and I got my first card that gave a score range that included a 10 (Overall Grade: A), Grade Comparable to: 9-10. Unfortunately its a Topps A&G Danny McBride Autograph with a print line from the manufacturer that goes across the center of the card and is about .75 inches long. While I have seen similar cards grade a 10, anything from a 7-9 wouldn't surprise me on the card.

03-11-2022, 06:53 PM	#5
YayNJ Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: London / Oahu Posts: 8,646 hanelcocards	I cracked a cheap CSG 9.5 out to test this. (Chosen because it was a fairly cheap base card, and CSG grading is tough.) Anyway, the card was graded 9.5 by CSG. Cent - 9.5 Corners - 10 Edges - 10 Surf - 9.5 Dilly App returned the following... Grade suggestion - 7 to 8. Corners - average of B Centering - A+ Surface - D+ Edges - average of a A

03-11-2022, 07:57 PM	#6
ScattMan Member Join Date: Nov 2021 Posts: 70

03-21-2022, 06:08 PM	#7
CardFarmer Member Join Date: Apr 2020 Posts: 410	Looks like a neat app. I was going to play around with it, and the first card I grabbed was a 1991 that I pulled from a vending box. It had the obvious 'potato chipping' curve to it. Any idea how to fix this prior to scanning it?

04-06-2022, 05:12 AM	#8
giovipks Member Join Date: Apr 2019 Posts: 76	I love the idea but I can’t get a single card to work to be “assessed”. Amy tips? I made sure the box was green and the background of where the card was laying was neutral color. Just can’t get it to work at all Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

04-06-2022, 07:18 AM	#9
YayNJ Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: London / Oahu Posts: 8,646 hanelcocards	Don't waste your time, it's a complete joke. Assess cards graded 10's as 7's and 8's lol