2016 Marvel Masterpiece Cards

[finfangfan]

I can’t see Jusko doing another full blown set again … but would be nice for UD to commission him to do an 8-10 card insert set (Marvel Anime 2 Kaiju set would be amazing).

[TimBuckTwo]

Originally Posted by orion9578

I'm almost positive in the old MM thread someone did the math and there were roughly the same number of Gold Tier 4 as base(/99). I'd guess they're somewhere between 75-99. It was, and still is, the easiest and cheapest of the tier 4 sets to make. Doubtful it'd be priced like it is if there were only 50.

I have to go back on this. at 1:288 packs is 1 every 2 cases and at 900 cases that breaks out to a 50ish range like the What if.

[orion9578]

Originally Posted by TimBuckTwo

I have to go back on this. at 1:288 packs is 1 every 2 cases and at 900 cases that breaks out to a 50ish range like the What if.

Originally Posted by orion9578

Can of worms. I opened them .

I'll concede that I am old. I'll concede that my memory isn't great anymore. But I think at this point it'd take Masherah or Carlin to come on here and physically shake me like a child with numbers in front of my face to back it up for me to believe there are only 50. Haha


I'll slink back in my lair as far as this subject goes though.

I have slunk back into the lair on the subject. I know you aren't Jason or Chris though, so I'll just quote myself as a response . I'm very stubborn.

[TimBuckTwo]

Originally Posted by orion9578

I have slunk back into the lair on the subject. I know you aren't Jason or Chris though, so I'll just quote myself as a response . I'm very stubborn.

Well my memory is foggy too but I recall the 1:288 specifically and found the 900 cases in another forum.

I won't be moving my gold foil anytime soon. LOL

[aclben]

Originally Posted by TimBuckTwo

Well my memory is foggy too but I recall the 1:288 specifically and found the 900 cases in another forum.

I won't be moving my gold foil anytime soon. LOL

I also recall that the gold foil tier 4s were in the 75-85 range. So fewer than base but I don’t think as low as 50. The lack of numbering will always hurt the values more than anything.

[Xazark]

Originally Posted by finfangfan

I can’t see Jusko doing another full blown set again … but would be nice for UD to commission him to do an 8-10 card insert set (Marvel Anime 2 Kaiju set would be amazing).

Fairly sure he has commented himself that he will never do another full set as it simply took too much time and left him unable to do anything else - I agree that having him do something like an insert set or something different would be cool and I know he hates doing them but his sketches are always really nice too.

The MM16 art book is excellent and definitely worth picking up. I have it on my coffee table and browse through it with the kids every so often, I still wish he offered a signed copy of the book as I live in Australia I doubt I will ever get the chance for him to sign the my copy.

[TimBuckTwo]

Originally Posted by aclben

I also recall that the gold foil tier 4s were in the 75-85 range. So fewer than base but I don’t think as low as 50. The lack of numbering will always hurt the values more than anything.

Odds were the same as the What If Tier 4.

Odds don't lie.

[DynaEtch]

Originally Posted by TimBuckTwo

Odds were the same as the What If Tier 4.

Odds don't lie.

This is what the odds say, yes.

After digging up info in this thread, Im convinced the 1 true base per pack is actually the best argument for golds being /50. We see every pack everywhere- case breaks posts, youtube videos- has exactly one true base in it. The sell sheet advertises this too. 1 true base per pack works out to be about 912 cases, thus about 50 gold tier 4s.

Now why would it not be one true base per pack when every single example shows it was? Only chance is if epack was for some reason different than what we see in physical. But 1) the default position would be it's not different (claiming it's different is an assumption that needs justified imo) 2) I also remember it being one base in those packs (I wish there was a way to have recorded what packs from epack contained), and 3) the one true base per back case calculation just so happens to agree with the calculation from odds. So it's 1 true base per pack in my book, and golds were about /50.

[TimBuckTwo]

Originally Posted by DynaEtch

This is what the odds say, yes.

After digging up info in this thread, Im convinced the 1 true base per pack is actually the best argument for golds being /50. We see every pack everywhere- case breaks posts, youtube videos- has exactly one true base in it. The sell sheet advertises this too. 1 true base per pack works out to be about 912 cases, thus about 50 gold tier 4s.

Now why would it not be one true base per pack when every single example shows it was? Only chance is if epack was for some reason different than what we see in physical. But 1) the default position would be it's not different (claiming it's different is an assumption that needs justified imo) 2) I also remember it being one base in those packs (I wish there was a way to have recorded what packs from epack contained), and 3) the one true base per back case calculation just so happens to agree with the calculation from odds. So it's 1 true base per pack in my book, and golds were about /50.

Complete and thorough assessment I believe.

[stevenbklyn718]

just went thru about 1800 marvel cards here’s a pic of better cards
https://ibb.co/sQjvdf7
was able to put a full set 1 thru 80 of gold what if n reg set

[stevenbklyn718]

here are 1/1 plate n a red 1/1
https://ibb.co/fXdYr29

[stevenbklyn718]

spider true base #99 wolverine true base #99 spider purple 199 dr doom what if #50
https://ibb.co/b1XSKyd

[stevenbklyn718]

gallery #99 wolverine cyclops
https://ibb.co/Sm6QZ1G

[stevenbklyn718]

4 autos
hawkeye iron fist think 2 are 2018 simone n dormmau
https://ibb.co/QDH7rqK

[stevenbklyn718]

spectra gems 3 # 99
https://ibb.co/94qwyp5

6 speckles #99
https://ibb.co/fXmyJ0y

21 holofiles not #
https://ibb.co/VVfMJMM

19 canvas
https://ibb.co/tD9pJkY

24 battle spectras
https://ibb.co/8YJ3QnL

18 ultimate spider-man’s spider man 8 base 1999. 5 what’s if 1499 4 gold foil n
1 rare orange #99
https://ibb.co/TMw08Qd

22 sketch’s
https://ibb.co/BqzFK0m

32 oranges #99 iron man n blank panther n captain america big names
https://ibb.co/37K88Zy

199 purples big names venom deadpool x 2 mephisto silver surfer
https://ibb.co/0XZ95Kh

[Mahomie]

^^^nice cards

[marinocollector]

Originally Posted by DynaEtch

This is what the odds say, yes.

After digging up info in this thread, Im convinced the 1 true base per pack is actually the best argument for golds being /50. We see every pack everywhere- case breaks posts, youtube videos- has exactly one true base in it. The sell sheet advertises this too. 1 true base per pack works out to be about 912 cases, thus about 50 gold tier 4s.

Now why would it not be one true base per pack when every single example shows it was? Only chance is if epack was for some reason different than what we see in physical. But 1) the default position would be it's not different (claiming it's different is an assumption that needs justified imo) 2) I also remember it being one base in those packs (I wish there was a way to have recorded what packs from epack contained), and 3) the one true base per back case calculation just so happens to agree with the calculation from odds. So it's 1 true base per pack in my book, and golds were about /50.

There's people who believe the world is flat. Do you really expect everyone to agree to simple math?

[Fenian95]

Spider Man Base Tier 1 Achievement sold tonight for $345. Nuts.

[DynaEtch]

A 1992 Buyback Jusko auto Wolverine /15 was listed on COMC for like 10k, an absolute monster card. Looks like it sold in a day, not sure if for that price.

Easily my fav 1992 MM card, I like it even better than the Spiderman. Imo it's the most desirable buyback card, congrats to whoever bought it.

[sfgiants4life]

Originally Posted by DynaEtch

A 1992 Buyback Jusko auto Wolverine /15 was listed on COMC for like 10k, an absolute monster card. Looks like it sold in a day, not sure if for that price.

Easily my fav 1992 MM card, I like it even better than the Spiderman. Imo it's the most desirable buyback card, congrats to whoever bought it.

Damn...I should have sold mine.

[Xazark]

Originally Posted by sfgiants4life

Damn...I should have sold mine.

Nothing stopping you from listing it and seeing what interest you get

[GrangerCollectr]

Originally Posted by DynaEtch

A 1992 Buyback Jusko auto Wolverine /15 was listed on COMC for like 10k, an absolute monster card. Looks like it sold in a day, not sure if for that price.

Easily my fav 1992 MM card, I like it even better than the Spiderman. Imo it's the most desirable buyback card, congrats to whoever bought it.

Looks like it sold for $6500 according to the history points on COMC

[DynaEtch]

Originally Posted by GrangerCollectr

Looks like it sold for $6500 according to the history points on COMC

Wow for that much off ask price. That's a great deal imo.

[sketchopolix]

Originally Posted by Tim

No, the golds are 50. They are priced lower because there's no serial number and the design is, shall we say, not as appealing as the others.

I'm going to restir the pot on this having just looked at my ePacks 2016 holdings. I have anequivalent # of golds and base Tier 4, while only 50% of those totals of What ifs. This screams Gold = /99.

Going with the celestial archer on this one.

[Tim]

Originally Posted by sketchopolix

I'm going to restir the pot on this having just looked at my ePacks 2016 holdings. I have anequivalent # of golds and base Tier 4, while only 50% of those totals of What ifs. This screams Gold = /99.

Going with the celestial archer on this one.

But you are the one proposing the theory that e-pack can yield different results, which i agree with btw.