Morant - Zion

Boo · 03-01-2022, 05:47 PM

With Morants play and excitement, Zion’s injury and his reported unhappiness in NO, do the Pelicans wish they had drafted Ja?

gomiamigo · 03-01-2022, 05:53 PM

OGs 'memba.

Kingofkings1281 · 03-01-2022, 05:54 PM

I would say so. The injuries coupled with him seemingly not wanting to be there is enough to cast doubt.

tclausen · 03-01-2022, 06:10 PM

In reality, it is too early yet to say who will end up having the better career. However, with Zion showing no interest in the Pelicans I think it is pretty safe to say they would rather have Ja now. At this point they are probably hoping he comes back and plays at a high level for a little while so they can trade him.

imbluestreak23 · 03-01-2022, 06:11 PM

Man I'm on an island lol

eastbayak · 03-01-2022, 06:29 PM

It's still too early to tell but definitely hard to argue against Morant atm.

h00perstar34 · 03-01-2022, 06:29 PM

Zion to the Knicks in offseason with Cam and RJ already there sure would be interesting

Kenflin · 03-01-2022, 06:48 PM

At this point, New Orleans is probably wishing they drafted D. Garland. I don't listen to the media rumors about him not wanting to be there. I'm more concerned about his conditioning. He was overweight before coming into the league. It doesn't look like his conditioning habits are improving. Once you start getting and compiling certain injuries, they can begin to shape how your body maneuvers. I wish him well though.

Ericc5Bears · 03-01-2022, 06:50 PM

The Pelicans 100% regret it solely due to the fact that clearly Zion doesn't really want to be there and will probably leave the first chance he gets. However, it's still too early to tell who will have the better career. People forget Zion averaged 27-7-4 on absurd efficiency last year. If he ever decides to actually take the sport seriously the sky is the limit.

Boo · 03-01-2022, 06:52 PM

Ja has a slight frame and gets hit a lot going to the basket. Would be nice for both if Zion could give him 25 pounds.

Ferg1945 · 03-01-2022, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by h00perstar34

Zion to the Knicks in offseason with Cam and RJ already there sure would be interesting

with Coach K taking over for Thibs?

Dame · 03-01-2022, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Kenflin

At this point, New Orleans is probably wishing they drafted D. Garland. .

Eh, that’s a bit much.

Their bigger regret is trading that 4th pick. Garland could’ve been a nice insurance if Zion doesn’t pan out for them.

Kobefan · 03-01-2022, 08:03 PM

There is nothing to regret about, cause they took an all-consensus first pick. It wasn't a case in which there's a debate on who was the first pick, nor did they need a point guard over a forward. If Zion doesn't pan out, it'll just be bad luck.

regularp · 03-01-2022, 09:40 PM

Besides being far too early to tell, New Orleans' front office is an absolute disaster compared to Memphis. You can't just switch places between Zion and Morant and expect the Pelicans to become a functional organization all of a sudden with savvy front office moves.

The Grizz might get a top ten pick THIS year because Griffin salary dumped Steven Adams on the Grizz and had to attach a protected first in the process to try to fix the terrible contract he gave Adams in the first place.

jfan2024 · 03-01-2022, 10:23 PM

Even as a Morant fan, I'll say that when Zion was on the court, he proved to be a much more impactful player in my opinion. If he's happy and his weight is in control, Zion is a 25/10 player on excellent efficiency. I can see Zion being an easier fit on a championship team than Ja.

That being said, it's utter crap that Zion never gave New Orleans a chance. The team isn't even THAT bad if he were to commit. This garbage is all on Zion, not the Pelicans

Nefugee · 03-02-2022, 05:00 AM

for now, to me, it feels a lot like the Oden over Durant situation back in 2007

h00perstar34 · 03-02-2022, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Nefugee

for now, to me, it feels a lot like the Oden over Durant situation back in 2007

Oden never averaged 27 and was anywhere near as dynamic when playing

jcardstore · 03-02-2022, 08:50 AM

Idk why people are saying it's too early to tell. Even if Zion is perfectly healthy he's not staying so it won't even matter

mtr · 03-02-2022, 10:12 AM

Ja has embraced playing for a small market team while Zion's commitment to New Orleans is questionable. Zion still might end up as the better player but it won't matter to the Pelicans if he ends up demanding a trade.

Chrominator · 03-02-2022, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Nefugee

for now, to me, it feels a lot like the Oden over Durant situation back in 2007

yep, it sort of does to an extent.

Being mentally fit is just as important as being physically fit when it comes to playing sports, no matter the game.

bmf · 03-02-2022, 10:42 AM

Collectors who paid big money for Zion have to be sweating at this point. Ja collectors are rejoicing.

Ferg1945 · 03-02-2022, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by bmf

Collectors who paid big money for Zion have to be sweating at this point. Ja collectors are rejoicing.

Not if the Ja collectors stockpiled base Prizm PSA 10s at or near peak

Or any base PSA 10 during the surge.

bmf · 03-02-2022, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Ferg1945

Not if the Ja collectors stockpiled base Prizm PSA 10s at or near peak

Or any base PSA 10 during the surge.

That’s true. I should’ve been more specific, I was referring more to their limited rookies from NT and other elite brands. It is baffling to me how some people are still paying top dollar for Zion’s big rookies. Balls of steel!

Nomad · 03-02-2022, 01:21 PM

They must be getting some kind of discount by this point. I see almost uniform "Best offer accepted" for the high end Zion sales on Bay. I am guessing mid 20s for NT type stuff

sickmantz · 03-02-2022, 03:28 PM

Ja looks like he's 5ft, 100lbs. How is he this good?

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03-01-2022, 05:47 PM	#1
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03-01-2022, 06:10 PM	#4
tclausen Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Ohio Posts: 548 tomdawg3	In reality, it is too early yet to say who will end up having the better career. However, with Zion showing no interest in the Pelicans I think it is pretty safe to say they would rather have Ja now. At this point they are probably hoping he comes back and plays at a high level for a little while so they can trade him. __________________ PC: -Lou Williams - primarily RCs /25 or less but also interested in other higher-end -T-Mac - autos and nice RC

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03-01-2022, 06:29 PM	#6
eastbayak Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 16,704 eastbayak	It's still too early to tell but definitely hard to argue against Morant atm.

03-01-2022, 06:29 PM	#7
h00perstar34 Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 4,865	Zion to the Knicks in offseason with Cam and RJ already there sure would be interesting

03-01-2022, 06:48 PM	#8
Kenflin Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 623	At this point, New Orleans is probably wishing they drafted D. Garland. I don't listen to the media rumors about him not wanting to be there. I'm more concerned about his conditioning. He was overweight before coming into the league. It doesn't look like his conditioning habits are improving. Once you start getting and compiling certain injuries, they can begin to shape how your body maneuvers. I wish him well though.

03-01-2022, 06:50 PM	#9
Ericc5Bears Member Join Date: Aug 2020 Posts: 1,270	The Pelicans 100% regret it solely due to the fact that clearly Zion doesn't really want to be there and will probably leave the first chance he gets. However, it's still too early to tell who will have the better career. People forget Zion averaged 27-7-4 on absurd efficiency last year. If he ever decides to actually take the sport seriously the sky is the limit.

03-01-2022, 06:52 PM	#10
Boo Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: PA Posts: 58,061 klay22	Ja has a slight frame and gets hit a lot going to the basket. Would be nice for both if Zion could give him 25 pounds. __________________ I have found that flicking through a few threads on my smartphone is a great way to pass some time while "stocking the pond."Hairy 6/7/12 “ I feel you, brother. Welcome to East Berlin, circa 1963.” Hairy 5/9/20 "No one said I was smart." BoSux 12/18/25

03-01-2022, 08:03 PM	#13
Kobefan Member Join Date: Dec 2018 Posts: 2,180 kobefan321	There is nothing to regret about, cause they took an all-consensus first pick. It wasn't a case in which there's a debate on who was the first pick, nor did they need a point guard over a forward. If Zion doesn't pan out, it'll just be bad luck.

03-01-2022, 09:40 PM	#14
regularp Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 7,173	Besides being far too early to tell, New Orleans' front office is an absolute disaster compared to Memphis. You can't just switch places between Zion and Morant and expect the Pelicans to become a functional organization all of a sudden with savvy front office moves. The Grizz might get a top ten pick THIS year because Griffin salary dumped Steven Adams on the Grizz and had to attach a protected first in the process to try to fix the terrible contract he gave Adams in the first place.

03-01-2022, 10:23 PM	#15
jfan2024 Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: NJ/NY Posts: 1,976 jfan2024	Even as a Morant fan, I'll say that when Zion was on the court, he proved to be a much more impactful player in my opinion. If he's happy and his weight is in control, Zion is a 25/10 player on excellent efficiency. I can see Zion being an easier fit on a championship team than Ja. That being said, it's utter crap that Zion never gave New Orleans a chance. The team isn't even THAT bad if he were to commit. This garbage is all on Zion, not the Pelicans __________________ Instagram: NetsEdge15

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Nefugee Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 496	for now, to me, it feels a lot like the Oden over Durant situation back in 2007 __________________ https://www.flickr.com/photos/160248220@N03/

03-02-2022, 08:50 AM	#18
jcardstore Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 22,152 Jcardstore	Idk why people are saying it's too early to tell. Even if Zion is perfectly healthy he's not staying so it won't even matter __________________ Just moonwalking through hell on my last brain cell

03-02-2022, 10:12 AM	#19
mtr Member Join Date: Jan 2021 Posts: 323	Ja has embraced playing for a small market team while Zion's commitment to New Orleans is questionable. Zion still might end up as the better player but it won't matter to the Pelicans if he ends up demanding a trade.

03-02-2022, 10:42 AM	#21
bmf Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 3,212	Collectors who paid big money for Zion have to be sweating at this point. Ja collectors are rejoicing.

03-02-2022, 01:21 PM	#24
Nomad Banned Join Date: Jul 2021 Location: Fomenting FOMO on the down low. Posts: 8,094	They must be getting some kind of discount by this point. I see almost uniform "Best offer accepted" for the high end Zion sales on Bay. I am guessing mid 20s for NT type stuff

03-02-2022, 03:28 PM	#25
sickmantz Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: CA Posts: 2,471 vashthe84	Ja looks like he's 5ft, 100lbs. How is he this good? __________________ In a system built on racism, status quo sustains it.