SGC Grading

[Gary]

Originally Posted by growdoe

I want to see these cracked slabs, too. Just black out the cert number if concerned about privacy. Can't wait to learn how it's really done.

SGC slabs open pretty easy,done a few to resub.

[Boostedwrx]

Originally Posted by junkwaxgems

I can confirm that last October, I had to send back a half dozen or so due to heavy fingerprinting. They acknowledged it, cleaned them and resealed.

I wish this forum had the like feature

[growdoe]

Originally Posted by Onepocketj

Huh? There are tons of youtube videos showing you how to do it for every company.

Sarcasm. I think cracking SGC 10s, the best 10 grade of them all, is a losing bet, IMO.

[saintsfan9]

Originally Posted by growdoe

Sarcasm. I think cracking SGC 10s, the best 10 grade of them all, is a losing bet, IMO.

SGC 10 and BGS 10 are harder to get than a PSA 10 from my own experience. I agree that cracking an SGC 10 is silly but I guess PSA 10s can sell for more so.. who knows. hopefully SGC catches up a lot more than they already have

[Gary]

Originally Posted by growdoe

Sarcasm. I think cracking SGC 10s, the best 10 grade of them all, is a losing bet, IMO.

Sorry i thought you meant opening them as in how easy is it.agreed cracking out an SGC 10 is not the best idea.

[hammertime]

Got these back today:

[YouFold2Me]

10 card/10 day

Shipped- 2-14
Rec’d- 2-21
Post grading- ....
Shipped-...
Rec’d back-...

[YouFold2Me]

Originally Posted by YouFold2Me

10 card/10 day

Shipped- 2-14
Rec’d- 2-21
Post grading- .... 2-24
Shipped-...
Rec’d back-...

Just went into post grading

[imbluestreak23]

Have to think lower prices are coming as demand is waining

[5CentWaxPack]

Originally Posted by imbluestreak23

Have to think lower prices are coming as demand is waining

How have people been doing selling SGC, recently? Prices still considerably lower than PSA? I had stopped looking.

[Gary]

Originally Posted by imbluestreak23

Have to think lower prices are coming as demand is waining

been saying the same thing for months.....still waiting.im starting to think it may take PSA lowering prices first.who knows how long that will take.

[Scottish Punk]

Originally Posted by imbluestreak23

Have to think lower prices are coming as demand is waining

Maybe, they had an instagram post last Friday stating they took more cards that day than any other single day in their history. If that data point is an indication, than they are doing just fine with submissions. As stated before, things will have another monumental shift when PSA clears their backlog. That is still many months away, obviously.

[discodanman45]

Originally Posted by Scottish Punk

Maybe, they had an instagram post last Friday stating they took more cards that day than any other single day in their history. If that data point is an indication, than they are doing just fine with submissions. As stated before, things will have another monumental shift when PSA clears their backlog. That is still many months away, obviously.

When I say we are having cheap grading, it won't be until 2023. That 80% of grading capacity is a huge deal and once that opens up, we will see exponential changes. For the next 6 months I think we will see SGC continue to pull away as a clear #2 grader. The quick turnaround times, best customer service, and increasing popularity with certain YouTube personalities are all going to strengthen their brand.

People like Personal Finance Dad, Retro Hoop Collectibles, etc... all have bigger pull in the hobby than people realize. Even at 5 to 20 thousand subscribers is huge in the community. Even Sports Card Investor is pushing them, because he has a financial interest in them. He was bashing CSG on his last video without even knowing anything about their company or the backlog. He is a complete scumbag and only cares about making money in this hobby. He is one of those people that you think are nice, and then will try to rip off a 90-year-old lady to make a few bucks. However, he has pull over his idiot followers and if he says HGA is greatest grading company in the world, people will believe him.

With SGC still getting submissions it shows that the hobby is still strong right now and won't collapse further like I anticipate. I am actually seeing some of my 80's and 90's graded cards sneak back up in price right now. I think we will see another boom when PSA gets to $25 or less and opens up after their backlog. However, we will see another dip in 2023 once that excitement is gone.

[Giroux]

Updated

[Cannae]

SGC is a second tier ultra modern grading company and will probably fade to irrelevance for that segment as PSA increases throughput and lowers pricing. Their 9.5 and 9s are absolute death for flippers, who are the marginal grading customers and the ones that utilize SGC because of its quick turnaround time.

[The_Reverend]

Originally Posted by Cannae

SGC is a second tier ultra modern grading company and will probably fade to irrelevance for that segment as PSA increases throughput and lowers pricing. Their 9.5 and 9s are absolute death for flippers, who are the marginal grading customers and the ones that utilize SGC because of its quick turnaround time.

Ultra modern slabs for PSA are crashing as well. The ultra modern, especially base, market has crashed back down to earth. There will be far more PSA 10’s of ultra modern compared to SGC. There might come a time when People view SGC as more rare and PSA slabs as junk. I am not saying that is now, but when the backlog hits the market they will be dumped for whatever price the person can get. It is already happening.

[Giroux]

Originally Posted by Cannae

SGC is a second tier ultra modern grading company and will probably fade to irrelevance for that segment as PSA increases throughput and lowers pricing. Their 9.5 and 9s are absolute death for flippers, who are the marginal grading customers and the ones that utilize SGC because of its quick turnaround time.

Slabs look nice and I respect the company. Turnaround time has been great.

[politesandlizar]

No qualms with SGC until I recently ripped a 2018 Topps Solo: A Star Wars Story sketch card and sent in for grading.

Received the 'A' which I believed was 'authentic' due to it being a 1/1 unique sketch card.

In listening to Peter's interview with SCN yesterday, ALL SGC graded 'A' cards they believe that while authentic have been altered.

Frustrated to say the least as I personally pulled and sent in the card! Going back/forth with customer service right now.

[i4gotmyid]

Originally Posted by politesandlizar

No qualms with SGC until I recently ripped a 2018 Topps Solo: A Star Wars Story sketch card and sent in for grading.

Received the 'A' which I believed was 'authentic' due to it being a 1/1 unique sketch card.

In listening to Peter's interview with SCN yesterday, ALL SGC graded 'A' cards they believe that while authentic have been altered.

Frustrated to say the least as I personally pulled and sent in the card! Going back/forth with customer service right now.

Not sure what grade you want, but that pops in the sgc case...just beautiful

[politesandlizar]

It does pop in the tuxedo case, but the 'A' just gives it a little pause. Would rather ANY numerical grade!

Originally Posted by i4gotmyid

Not sure what grade you want, but that pops in the sgc case...just beautiful

[discodanman45]

Originally Posted by politesandlizar

In listening to Peter's interview with SCN yesterday, ALL SGC graded 'A' cards they believe that while authentic have been altered.

This is not true. SGC authenticate can me altered or they could be factory miscut or not meeting minimum sizes.

However, I don't think this is what happened in your case. There is handwriting by the artist on the back of your card. SGC doesn't authenticate autographs and this having handwriting on the back may have triggered an issue with them. I would call customer support and they should be able to give you an answer.

[newcokeandtaco]

I am glad this SGC sketch card grading question has come up and look forward to any information about the topic. I originally thought it might be the no auto grading change. Both examples below are 1/1 sketch cards. So is there something I am missing or was there a change. Or is it just a miscut/min size/altered thing (as mentioned)?

This one was graded in March 2021:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/23442646906...iDu-A&LH_All=1
OP's was graded Feb 2022:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/15485124091...0AAOSwrg1iBePv

[vthobby]

Originally Posted by Cannae

SGC is a second tier ultra modern grading company and will probably fade to irrelevance for that segment as PSA increases throughput and lowers pricing. Their 9.5 and 9s are absolute death for flippers, who are the marginal grading customers and the ones that utilize SGC because of its quick turnaround time.

You really are new to this aren't you? Clueless!

[Bulldurham]

Originally Posted by vthobby

You really are new to this aren't you? Clueless!

Clueless? He’s right, people are using SGC to scratch the grading itch on modern stuff until PSA opens up a lower price tier. One of the only reasons they are seeing an uptick in market share is because they are the only company getting cards back in a timely manner. When/if PSA throws at an accessible $25-30 option SGC will fade, still be relevant, but definitely fade.

[Scottish Punk]

Originally Posted by Bulldurham

Clueless? He’s right, people are using SGC to scratch the grading itch on modern stuff until PSA opens up a lower price tier. One of the only reasons they are seeing an uptick in market share is because they are the only company getting cards back in a timely manner. When/if PSA throws at an accessible $25-30 option SGC will fade, still be relevant, but definitely fade.

Which is why SGC really needs to keep upgrading their infrastructure. Getting a registry should be a priority. Maybe look for partnerships with a selling platform or auction house. Clearly PSA and CGS are going to have the ability for someone to send in raw and get them graded and sold without getting your card back.

All of these new collectors and existing ones who have switched need to be "locked" in. Make it more difficult to switch to PSA.