2022 Topps 1st Edition - Page 2

NYRE2PECT · 02-15-2022, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by PumpnDumpling

After Steve Aoki Neon Genesis Evangelion, nothing really shocks me anymore

This about sums it up for me.

Hail2TheVictors · 02-15-2022, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by premium1981

The horse died a long time ago. He has already beaten the flesh away to where he is now beating on the pavement underneath. Its to the point of straight up trolling now.

It's 1,000% trolling.

CardMarkets · 02-15-2022, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by trendy26

I’m guessing the OP isn’t a Montgomery Club Member..

Actually I have 2 MCP memberships. Make a fair amount flipping the things of value. This really just tipped the scale for me though in terms of absurdity of pricing relative to the quality of the product. Just sincerely wasn't sure if there was something folks knew was in here that folks were chasing. Know we all like different things, I just don't see anywhere near that kind of value for a sealed full set, let alone a single slim-jim you-call-that-a-hobby box.

espnfanco · 02-15-2022, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Jon G

To be fair he’s not wrong, you are apparently in the 2%. TBP is the worst IMO.

Count me in… 2.1% I enjoy his posts

espnfanco · 02-15-2022, 07:55 PM

If Wander has MVP numbers first half of the year, how much could a psa 10 1st edition wander rc go for?

JRX · 02-15-2022, 07:59 PM

How many cards in a box 240? Assuming no inserts you have about a 72% chance for Wander.

NYRE2PECT · 02-15-2022, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by espnfanco

If Wander has MVP numbers first half of the year, how much could a psa 10 1st edition wander rc go for?

Genuinely curious, as I am going to pass on this and will stay firm, but where would 1st Edition rank in light of:

SS1 Base, SP, SSP, and Parallels?
Chome Base, SP, SSP, and Parallels?

For me, still semi-ish new, I just don't understand what the draw would be, a la:

Montgomery Club
Holiday
Complete Set / Variations / Foilboards
Factory Set
(and all the other options)

It would be lower echelion, right?

JRX · 02-15-2022, 08:37 PM

Depends on how many other products get 1st edition treatment.

eastbayak · 02-15-2022, 08:40 PM

Pulled the trigger on my box.

Bcr · 02-15-2022, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by JRX

How many cards in a box 240? Assuming no inserts you have about a 72% chance for Wander.

Did the checklist come out? Are there really just base cards in a box?

coltsnsox07 · 02-15-2022, 08:46 PM

Ima hold out for 1st edition Baller Sapphire 3D Mini Chrome instead.

Archangel1775 · 02-15-2022, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by NYRE2PECT

Genuinely curious, as I am going to pass on this and will stay firm, but where would 1st Edition rank in light of:

SS1 Base, SP, SSP, and Parallels?
Chome Base, SP, SSP, and Parallels?

For me, still semi-ish new, I just don't understand what the draw would be, a la:

Montgomery Club
Holiday
Complete Set / Variations / Foilboards
Factory Set
(and all the other options)

It would be lower echelion, right?

2003/2004 LeBron 1st Edition.....Hahaha...Fanatics is nuts

Swipe79 · 02-15-2022, 11:41 PM

Likely depends on print run.

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Originally Posted by NYRE2PECT

Genuinely curious, as I am going to pass on this and will stay firm, but where would 1st Edition rank in light of:

SS1 Base, SP, SSP, and Parallels?
Chome Base, SP, SSP, and Parallels?

For me, still semi-ish new, I just don't understand what the draw would be, a la:

Montgomery Club
Holiday
Complete Set / Variations / Foilboards
Factory Set
(and all the other options)

It would be lower echelion, right?

txrngr34 · 02-15-2022, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by CardMarkets

Actually I have 2 MCP memberships. Make a fair amount flipping the things of value. This really just tipped the scale for me though in terms of absurdity of pricing relative to the quality of the product. Just sincerely wasn't sure if there was something folks knew was in here that folks were chasing. Know we all like different things, I just don't see anywhere near that kind of value for a sealed full set, let alone a single slim-jim you-call-that-a-hobby box.

This did it?

Not the $250 box of 2020 TC Sapphire? Or the $750 50-pack carton of 2021 Bowman Draft 1st Ed?

Admittedly, if this 2022 S1 1st Ed has no parallels I'll be significantly disappointed. And I absolutely think it's overpriced, like everything else now.

But this is no more absurd than at least a handful of other releases just this past year.

ThunderKing · 02-16-2022, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by txrngr34

This did it?

Not the $250 box of 2020 TC Sapphire? Or the $750 50-pack carton of 2021 Bowman Draft 1st Ed?

Admittedly, if this 2022 S1 1st Ed has no parallels I'll be significantly disappointed. And I absolutely think it's overpriced, like everything else now.

But this is no more absurd than at least a handful of other releases just this past year.

Certified Sports Cards (Max)@certifiedcards·22m2022 Topps Series 1:

Platinum 1/1 is 1:76,834 for regular hobby

Platinum 1/1 is 1:538 for 1st edition (via @WatchTheBreaks)

That means they made roughly

8,000 1st edition boxes.

1,056,500 regular hobby boxes.

ThunderKing · 02-16-2022, 01:25 AM

The Breaks@WatchTheBreaks · 1hBetter pic of the Topps 1st Edition Pack Odds:

Gold 1:2
Green* 1:3
Orange* 1:8
Red* 1:11
Black* 1:22
Hot Pink* 1:55
Light Blue* 1:108
Platinum* 1:538
Baseball Stars* 1:148

Autos* - gold 1:620, Red 1:2,471, Platinum 1:12,174

*sequentially numbered

cardbored · 02-16-2022, 01:45 AM

Saw the pack odds on Twitter and I'm glad I didn't buy this. Good luck to everyone who did.

PSA2Pac · 02-16-2022, 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by cardbored

Saw the pack odds on Twitter and I'm glad I didn't buy this. Good luck to everyone who did.

One mans trash is another mans treasure:
I saw the pack odds and was ecstatic I had already put my order in.

Goldenoldies · 02-16-2022, 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by PSA2Pac

One mans trash is another mans treasure:
I saw the pack odds and was ecstatic I had already put my order in.

So on average per box you should get: (according to odds)

At least 1 black, 2 red, 3 orange, 8 green and 12 gold? Are my calculations right? Wow…

Mattsurewood · 02-16-2022, 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by PSA2Pac

One mans trash is another mans treasure:
I saw the pack odds and was ecstatic I had already put my order in.

Same here.
Extremely limited compared to regular S1 print run.
The parallels will carry value, and always an outside shot at a Wander lottery hit in the numbered parallels..

No brainer on this one.

premium1981 · 02-16-2022, 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by cardbored

Saw the pack odds on Twitter and I'm glad I didn't buy this. Good luck to everyone who did.

I was the opposite. I didn't touch this yesterday. Saw the parallel's and odds this morning and bought a bunch of it. No chance this goes one backwards. If Wander has an auto in it things will go nuts. But that will just be the cherry. The parallel's make it a much better value than flagship.

tcdyess · 02-16-2022, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattsurewood

Same here.
Extremely limited compared to regular S1 print run.
The parallels will carry value, and always an outside shot at a Wander lottery hit in the numbered parallels..

No brainer on this one.

To me this is the key... everyone knew S1 flag was going to be run until there are no trees left to print... I love to see only 8k boxes of the 1st edition... this will be a huge win (yes I got 2 boxes).... love this low production run and have no issue spending for it... if you don't like it, there is plenty of S1 flag for much lower prices... lol...

t6p · 02-16-2022, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by premium1981

I was the opposite. I didn't touch this yesterday. Saw the parallel's and odds this morning and bought a bunch of it. No chance this goes one backwards. If Wander has an auto in it things will go nuts. But that will just be the cherry. The parallel's make it a much better value than flagship.

Totally agree. I went back and fourth all day and finally pulled the trigger before I went to bed. Seeing the pack odds this morning and I'm thrilled.

I'll buy more during the public sale if I can, but I'm going to assume that it will impossible like BDS was.

tcdyess · 02-16-2022, 08:36 AM

with only 8k boxes, the public sale (if there is one) will last for like 4 seconds...

Thew · 02-16-2022, 08:55 AM

If only around 8k boxes, sooo many ppl are gonna be eating crow for this one.

02-16-2022, 01:45 AM	#42
cardbored Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Mesa, AZ Posts: 2,056 guardiangel4u travisstevens81	Saw the pack odds on Twitter and I'm glad I didn't buy this. Good luck to everyone who did. __________________ Archie Goodwin super-collector. PM me if you have any nice stuff of his.

02-15-2022, 07:55 PM	#30
espnfanco Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 427	If Wander has MVP numbers first half of the year, how much could a psa 10 1st edition wander rc go for?

02-15-2022, 07:59 PM	#31
JRX Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 15,755	How many cards in a box 240? Assuming no inserts you have about a 72% chance for Wander.

02-15-2022, 08:37 PM	#33
JRX Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 15,755	Depends on how many other products get 1st edition treatment.

02-15-2022, 08:40 PM	#34
eastbayak Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 16,073 eastbayak	Pulled the trigger on my box.

02-15-2022, 08:46 PM	#36
coltsnsox07 Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 22,144	Ima hold out for 1st edition Baller Sapphire 3D Mini Chrome instead.

02-16-2022, 01:25 AM	#41
ThunderKing Member Join Date: Nov 2018 Posts: 148	The Breaks@WatchTheBreaks · 1hBetter pic of the Topps 1st Edition Pack Odds: Gold 1:2 Green* 1:3 Orange* 1:8 Red* 1:11 Black* 1:22 Hot Pink* 1:55 Light Blue* 1:108 Platinum* 1:538 Baseball Stars* 1:148 Autos* - gold 1:620, Red 1:2,471, Platinum 1:12,174 *sequentially numbered

02-16-2022, 08:36 AM	#49
tcdyess Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: New Hampshire USA Posts: 1,142 tcdyess	with only 8k boxes, the public sale (if there is one) will last for like 4 seconds...

02-16-2022, 08:55 AM	#50
Thew Member Join Date: Mar 2020 Posts: 193	If only around 8k boxes, sooo many ppl are gonna be eating crow for this one.