NBA Top Shot - High Risk, High Reward?

[Corporal Lance]

People are up in arms about the drop randomizer this time.

I did well with my 2 packs, I think:
W. Barton MGLE #27/789
D. Booker GRG
O. Yurtseven #13/4k

Plus 60ks of Giannis, Luka, D. Bane, and Dinwiddie.

[boxbuster7]

Originally Posted by Corporal Lance

People are up in arms about the drop randomizer this time.

I did well with my 2 packs, I think:
W. Barton MGLE #27/789
D. Booker GRG
O. Yurtseven #13/4k

Plus 60ks of Giannis, Luka, D. Bane, and Dinwiddie.

you did great!

apparently there is an acccount on twitter claiming the RNG did mess up. Some account got 5 holos in 5 packs.

[ACCDADEAL]

yeah the drop just ended?

[beavers]

Massive oof.

"We are investigating an issue with the Elite Pack Queue, in which certain Moments weren’t properly randomized across the pack listings.

In the meantime, we will be delaying the Standard Pack Queue to ensure we can release this next wave of packs responsibly.

Once we validate and confirm the issue, we will provide a further update."

[Brobocop]

Originally Posted by beavers

Massive oof.

"We are investigating an issue with the Elite Pack Queue, in which certain Moments weren’t properly randomized across the pack listings.

In the meantime, we will be delaying the Standard Pack Queue to ensure we can release this next wave of packs responsibly.

Once we validate and confirm the issue, we will provide a further update."

"Beta"

[ACCDADEAL]

Originally Posted by beavers

Massive oof.

"We are investigating an issue with the Elite Pack Queue, in which certain Moments weren’t properly randomized across the pack listings.

In the meantime, we will be delaying the Standard Pack Queue to ensure we can release this next wave of packs responsibly.

Once we validate and confirm the issue, we will provide a further update."

Its a scam, a pyramid scheme. They need to pull all those holos given and restart or we know they were looking out for their homies.

[boxbuster7]

I wouldn't say that; I would just say the people in charge don't know what they're doing.

[ACCDADEAL]

When there's money to be made there's always corruption in gambling.
If they take all the packs back and restart and do it right then maybe not but let's say

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[rms13]

I’ve definitely noticed a lot of issues with randomizing packs lately. I regularly get packs with multiple of the same moment lately. I think it’s picked up since the other Dapper projects launched.

[drobfan8]

Originally Posted by boxbuster7

I wouldn't say that; I would just say the people in charge don't know what they're doing.

Company started up. Told all their friends to load up for almost nothing.

Once they had enough they started spreading the word to bring money in.

Then the rules came to protect the elite.

Now they're still reaping the rewards for their very minimal buy in.

The OP had $22 million at one stage. For a spend of $2k.

Meanwhile I've spend $2k and can't even get in to a drop. Hahaha

[pyrexswerve]

Originally Posted by Corporal Lance

People are up in arms about the drop randomizer this time.

For good reason too!

Look at this tweet below:
https://twitter.com/the_ryan_king88/...903404033?s=10

So, im assuming TS will do something like UFC did. The price of the pack will be refunded & another moment will be sent etc.
They need to re-do the whole drop again though, because thats ridic.

[Brobocop]

Originally Posted by drobfan8

Company started up. Told all their friends to load up for almost nothing.

Once they had enough they started spreading the word to bring money in.

Then the rules came to protect the elite.

Now they're still reaping the rewards for their very minimal buy in.

The OP had $22 million at one stage. For a spend of $2k.

Meanwhile I've spend $2k and can't even get in to a drop. Hahaha

Man, have the tides have turned. You used to call me a hater and all kinds of things. Now you're joining the bandwagon. Top Shot was fun but there's clearly a ceiling in terms of how many new users they can bring in. It really is a large scale version of a ponzi scheme.

[pyrexswerve]

Originally Posted by drobfan8

Company started up. Told all their friends to load up for almost nothing.

Once they had enough they started spreading the word to bring money in.

Then the rules came to protect the elite.

Now they're still reaping the rewards for their very minimal buy in.

The OP had $22 million at one stage. For a spend of $2k.

Meanwhile I've spend $2k and can't even get in to a drop. Hahaha

Big facts. They all took advantage of the situation. All those guys got grails for pennies. They are playing with house money forever now.

Meanwhile, like you, i've spent more than $2k and see no real gain from it. How many of those elite have spent their own money? None, I would bet, because they don't need too.

I have a full team set completed & yet no utility for me, besides a foolish discord I want no parts of. But hey complete a random ass set & get a pack airdropped.

They need to do a better job at rewarding the average collectors, because we are keeping it alive. Not those 2020 adopters.

[grade]

Yup , there are a large sample size for packs in some groups. Nobody got any low print for a long time, then one person got one. But the sample size was in the 100'a with nobody hitting anything.

They need to do the queue in public also. Something like random.org were everything is transparent.

TS is fun, it would be so much more fun if everything was just honest and transparent.

[Eckstein197]

Originally Posted by ACCDADEAL

Its a scam, a pyramid scheme. They need to pull all those holos given and restart or we know they were looking out for their homies.

This isn’t true, my friend was a lucky benefactor and got 2 holos and he has no relation to any with TS

[Duvalier]

Originally Posted by drobfan8

Company started up. Told all their friends to load up for almost nothing.

Once they had enough they started spreading the word to bring money in.

Then the rules came to protect the elite.

Now they're still reaping the rewards for their very minimal buy in.

The OP had $22 million at one stage. For a spend of $2k.

Meanwhile I've spend $2k and can't even get in to a drop. Hahaha

Said it from the start, the collector score is the worst thing Top Shot has ever done. Like you said...Then the rules came to protect the elite and they're still reaping the rewards from a very minimal buy in. The collector score's a joke.

[ACCDADEAL]

All crypto is a pyramid scheme

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[Eckstein197]

Massive screw up by TS. They’ll need to compensate greatly for this.

But saying all the people’s friends benefitted isn’t true.

[Eckstein197]

Also if you think this was a scam, why would TS bring everyone’s attention to it.

[Brobocop]

Glad folks are starting to be at least realistic about the platform. The opportunity was there but collector score basically made it impossible for new users to get anything good. Now they are doing these packs with better moments randomly inserted. They should have been doing this from the get-go with a clean system. Clearly they screwed up and gave their buddies top tier moments. Bum company.

[pyrexswerve]

Here are of the threads from reddit about this randomization issue, if you read the comments, there a tons of users who got 2 holos or more.

https://www.reddit.com/r/nbatopshot/...ussion_thread/

https://www.reddit.com/r/nbatopshot/...hot_is_rigged/

Standard packs are going to be crap whenever they drop now.

If TS does something to make up for this crap, they better do something for all of us & not just those in the "elite" queue, because that error makes our odds even worse when standard releases & it essentially tampers with the market dynamic as a whole

[pyrexswerve]

Originally Posted by Eckstein197

Massive screw up by TS. They’ll need to compensate greatly for this.

But saying all the people’s friends benefitted isn’t true.

Yup. Agreed.

[ACCDADEAL]

Originally Posted by Eckstein197

Also if you think this was a scam, why would TS bring everyone’s attention to it.

If they don't recall everything that was sold and cancel all the sales then yeah it was a scam... so what criminals always draw attention to the crime they're committing that's the way it works. If you say the crime out loud you sanitize it that's old school man... You do the best crimes right in front of People.

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[ovrcollect]

Originally Posted by pyrexswerve

Here are of the threads from reddit about this randomization issue, if you read the comments, there a tons of users who got 2 holos or more.

https://www.reddit.com/r/nbatopshot/...ussion_thread/

https://www.reddit.com/r/nbatopshot/...hot_is_rigged/

Standard packs are going to be crap whenever they drop now.

If TS does something to make up for this crap, they better do something for all of us & not just those in the "elite" queue, because that error makes our odds even worse when standard releases & it essentially tampers with the market dynamic as a whole

The comments re: catering to the earliest adopters and highest value accounts are spot on. Dapper's focus is almost solely on protecting those account values.

It'd be unprecedented if they do anything for the standard pack peasants (of which, I am one.) They'll likely refund, drop all the elites a moment, then let them line up for the standard pack queue.

On another note, it's hilarious that they've now managed to split their user base up specifically using the words "Elites" and "Standard."

[ovrcollect]

Originally Posted by ACCDADEAL

If they don't recall everything that was sold and cancel all the sales then yeah it was a scam... so what criminals always draw attention to the crime they're committing that's the way it works. If you say the crime out loud you sanitize it that's old school man... You do the best crimes right in front of People.

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Reminds me of the old story about the "dead donkey raffle." Sell 500 $2 raffle tickets for a donkey. When the winner comes to collect, say "whoops, the donkey died" and give him his $2 back.