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Old 01-26-2022, 10:02 AM   #42726
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I see a lot of whites suddenly coming out of the woodwork. Since the auction ended on sunday, I have had opportunities to buy 4 different from diff sellers. Makes me a little skittish to buy at these 9-10k prices. I know this is a pump thread, and the card may jump a bit, but should it really be higher than a gatorade bath?
Short answer: no it shouldn't.
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Old 01-26-2022, 10:04 AM   #42727
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I see a lot of whites suddenly coming out of the woodwork. Since the auction ended on sunday, I have had opportunities to buy 4 different from diff sellers. Makes me a little skittish to buy at these 9-10k prices. I know this is a pump thread, and the card may jump a bit, but should it really be higher than a gatorade bath?
Short answer: Yes, it should.
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Old 01-26-2022, 10:07 AM   #42728
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His injury and the lockout probably played a factor.

He was headed towards MVP consideration before the injury, people seem to forget. Maybe the Braves don't win the World Series though to be honest if he's healthy because they don't trade for Rosario and Duval, who were crucial in their winning the championship.

He comes out swinging like he did last year, prices should bump up.

Yeah I think you’re right, as much as it pains me to say it. I don’t think we win w/o all those moves. Pederson was essentially NLDS MVP, Rosario was NLCS MVP and Soler was WS MVP. Maybe Acuna would’ve been hot and won one or two of those by himself, or maybe we trade for one or two of those guys anyway. Who knows


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Old 01-26-2022, 10:08 AM   #42729
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I see a lot of whites suddenly coming out of the woodwork. Since the auction ended on sunday, I have had opportunities to buy 4 different from diff sellers. Makes me a little skittish to buy at these 9-10k prices. I know this is a pump thread, and the card may jump a bit, but should it really be higher than a gatorade bath?

Is kinda funny that there’s one for a BIN of 10.5k now


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Old 01-26-2022, 10:12 AM   #42730
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Short answer: Yes, it should.
Would love to know your reasoning. Im a far bigger Acuna fan but I don't see it. My thoughts.

Reasons for Gatorade:
1. Soto has far fewer cards across '18 than Acuna.
2. Soto only has 1 SSP (Gatorade) in Update. Acuna has 2 (Batting & Glove).
3. Soto cards are currently outpacing Acuna cards.

PSA 10 pop is very similar Gatorade 58 vs Batting 54. I own both.
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Old 01-26-2022, 11:05 AM   #42731
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I agree with your points. I just think there's a growing excitement around Acuna that Soto doesn't have, and that's making up the difference even though Ronnie has a bunch of different RC options while Soto has way fewer. Soto's team is going absolutely nowhere. The Braves are going to have more eyes on them than ever this season as the reigning champs. The RETURN OF ACUNA is pretty exciting rn. This card in particular is extremely tough, and has been underappreciated. That's my take anyway.
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Would love to know your reasoning. Im a far bigger Acuna fan but I don't see it. My thoughts.

Reasons for Gatorade:
1. Soto has far fewer cards across '18 than Acuna.
2. Soto only has 1 SSP (Gatorade) in Update. Acuna has 2 (Batting & Glove).
3. Soto cards are currently outpacing Acuna cards.

PSA 10 pop is very similar Gatorade 58 vs Batting 54. I own both.
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Old 01-26-2022, 05:22 PM   #42732
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Been stocking up on Acuna and waiting for the start of the season. Collect new stuff to keep from getting bored, and once it starts up will move Acuna, Ohtani, Soto, Dominguez…to buy more 50’s vintage graded cards.


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Old 01-27-2022, 11:17 AM   #42733
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Would love to know your reasoning. Im a far bigger Acuna fan but I don't see it. My thoughts.

Reasons for Gatorade:
1. Soto has far fewer cards across '18 than Acuna.
2. Soto only has 1 SSP (Gatorade) in Update. Acuna has 2 (Batting & Glove).
3. Soto cards are currently outpacing Acuna cards.

PSA 10 pop is very similar Gatorade 58 vs Batting 54. I own both.
My approach is different when comparing the two. I don’t consider the outside factors (more cards across ‘18, more SSPs and market performance). Im looking at each player individually and ranking only their Flagship parallels, SPs and SSPs individually.

My Soto ranking:
1. Platinum
2. Clear
3. Indy
4. Black
5. Camo
6. Gatorade Bath
7. Fathers Day
8. Mother’s Day
9. Gold
10. Hand on hips SP

My Acuna ranking:
1. Platinum
2. Clear
3. Vertical SSP
4. Black
5. Indy
6. Camo
6. Horizontal SSP
8. Complete Set foilboard
9. Bat Down
10. Fathers Day

These lists are strictly off my personal preference for the image/design of the individual cards for each player from flagship. US300 batting is a much better photo of Soto in my opinion and why I rank the parallels higher in that list. For Acuna I think it’s the opposite where the vertical SSP is his best flagship image. The card is beautiful, but the rarity of the Platinum and clear top it.

I answer the original question by asking myself: Would I pay more for Acuna’s 3rd best flagship or Soto’s 6th best flagship? My answer is yes, but I don’t consider my collection an investment of any kind and enjoy collecting what I like.
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Old 01-27-2022, 11:39 AM   #42734
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I see a lot of whites suddenly coming out of the woodwork. Since the auction ended on sunday, I have had opportunities to buy 4 different from diff sellers. Makes me a little skittish to buy at these 9-10k prices. I know this is a pump thread, and the card may jump a bit, but should it really be higher than a gatorade bath?
The pump is definitely on. Beware

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Old 01-27-2022, 11:47 AM   #42735
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Would love to know your reasoning. Im a far bigger Acuna fan but I don't see it. My thoughts.

Reasons for Gatorade:
1. Soto has far fewer cards across '18 than Acuna.
2. Soto only has 1 SSP (Gatorade) in Update. Acuna has 2 (Batting & Glove).
3. Soto cards are currently outpacing Acuna cards.

PSA 10 pop is very similar Gatorade 58 vs Batting 54. I own both.
It's not close right now either.
Example - Yesterday 2018 Bowman's Best Acuna Refractor PSA 10 went for $133. Soto went for $450.
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Old 01-27-2022, 11:49 AM   #42736
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My approach is different when comparing the two. I don’t consider the outside factors (more cards across ‘18, more SSPs and market performance). Im looking at each player individually and ranking only their Flagship parallels, SPs and SSPs individually.

My Soto ranking:
1. Platinum
2. Clear
3. Indy
4. Black
5. Camo
6. Gatorade Bath
7. Fathers Day
8. Mother’s Day
9. Gold
10. Hand on hips SP

My Acuna ranking:
1. Platinum
2. Clear
3. Vertical SSP
4. Black
5. Indy
6. Camo
6. Horizontal SSP
8. Complete Set foilboard
9. Bat Down
10. Fathers Day

These lists are strictly off my personal preference for the image/design of the individual cards for each player from flagship. US300 batting is a much better photo of Soto in my opinion and why I rank the parallels higher in that list. For Acuna I think it’s the opposite where the vertical SSP is his best flagship image. The card is beautiful, but the rarity of the Platinum and clear top it.

I answer the original question by asking myself: Would I pay more for Acuna’s 3rd best flagship or Soto’s 6th best flagship? My answer is yes, but I don’t consider my collection an investment of any kind and enjoy collecting what I like.
Great lists! Can't argue with how you feel and what your preferences are. I personally think from a PC ONLY perspective that the US300 & US250 Indy Days are 2 of the most appealing cards Ive seen printed in years. If just going off of appeal, Im putting that card before the platinum and clears. Platinum and Clear from a PC (visual angle) are very boring to me.
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Old 01-27-2022, 12:32 PM   #42737
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The pump is definitely on. Beware

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I would think the scarcity of the white SSP would keep pumpers away. Kind of like you can’t pump a 52 Mantle rookie because there are more people that want the card versus inventory to sell. I have one in a BGS 9.5 with (2) 10 subs but no way would I sell a baseball card like that in the off-season. Cards always increase more during the season. That is why you buy hoops cards over the summer and football in the spring.
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Old 01-27-2022, 12:50 PM   #42738
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Been stocking up on Acuna and waiting for the start of the season. Collect new stuff to keep from getting bored, and once it starts up will move Acuna, Ohtani, Soto, Dominguez…to buy more 50’s vintage graded cards.

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Old 01-27-2022, 01:30 PM   #42739
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I would think the scarcity of the white SSP would keep pumpers away. Kind of like you can’t pump a 52 Mantle rookie because there are more people that want the card versus inventory to sell. I have one in a BGS 9.5 with (2) 10 subs but no way would I sell a baseball card like that in the off-season. Cards always increase more during the season. That is why you buy hoops cards over the summer and football in the spring.
Good point! I just get weary when I see a lot of posts on here and then I start miraculously seeing the card show up for sale everywhere.

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Old 01-27-2022, 02:18 PM   #42740
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My approach is different when comparing the two. I don’t consider the outside factors (more cards across ‘18, more SSPs and market performance). Im looking at each player individually and ranking only their Flagship parallels, SPs and SSPs individually.

My Soto ranking:
1. Platinum
2. Clear
3. Indy
4. Black
5. Camo
6. Gatorade Bath
7. Fathers Day
8. Mother’s Day
9. Gold
10. Hand on hips SP

My Acuna ranking:
1. Platinum
2. Clear
3. Vertical SSP
4. Black
5. Indy
6. Camo
6. Horizontal SSP
8. Complete Set foilboard
9. Bat Down
10. Fathers Day

These lists are strictly off my personal preference for the image/design of the individual cards for each player from flagship. US300 batting is a much better photo of Soto in my opinion and why I rank the parallels higher in that list. For Acuna I think it’s the opposite where the vertical SSP is his best flagship image. The card is beautiful, but the rarity of the Platinum and clear top it.

I answer the original question by asking myself: Would I pay more for Acuna’s 3rd best flagship or Soto’s 6th best flagship? My answer is yes, but I don’t consider my collection an investment of any kind and enjoy collecting what I like.
Just out of curiosity where does this one fit on your list?

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Old 01-27-2022, 03:29 PM   #42741
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Negative looks awesome but not being serial numbered hurts it.
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Old 01-27-2022, 03:30 PM   #42742
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Just out of curiosity where does this one fit on your list?

Great question!! Going off memory and completely forgot about negatives. I would put it at 9 or 10 on the Acuna list.
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Old 01-27-2022, 03:44 PM   #42743
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He'll be back in May. Bregman asked him.
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Old 01-27-2022, 04:11 PM   #42744
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If I had to rank '18 Update Acuna on my personal eye appeal (Im probably missing something):

1. Indy (hands down, not even close)
2. Black
3. SSP Batting
4. Father's
5. Gold
6. SSP Glove
7. Negative
8. Camo
9. Platinum
10. Clear
11. SP
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Old 01-27-2022, 06:52 PM   #42745
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My approach is different when comparing the two. I don’t consider the outside factors (more cards across ‘18, more SSPs and market performance). Im looking at each player individually and ranking only their Flagship parallels, SPs and SSPs individually.

My Soto ranking:
1. Platinum
2. Clear
3. Indy
4. Black
5. Camo
6. Gatorade Bath
7. Fathers Day
8. Mother’s Day
9. Gold
10. Hand on hips SP

My Acuna ranking:
1. Platinum
2. Clear
3. Vertical SSP
4. Black
5. Indy
6. Camo
6. Horizontal SSP
8. Complete Set foilboard
9. Bat Down
10. Fathers Day

These lists are strictly off my personal preference for the image/design of the individual cards for each player from flagship. US300 batting is a much better photo of Soto in my opinion and why I rank the parallels higher in that list. For Acuna I think it’s the opposite where the vertical SSP is his best flagship image. The card is beautiful, but the rarity of the Platinum and clear top it.

I answer the original question by asking myself: Would I pay more for Acuna’s 3rd best flagship or Soto’s 6th best flagship? My answer is yes, but I don’t consider my collection an investment of any kind and enjoy collecting what I like.
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Old 01-27-2022, 07:13 PM   #42746
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Best Acuna RC's - IMO.

1. Heritage Action
2. Heritage Black Refractor
3. Bat Down
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Old 01-27-2022, 07:25 PM   #42747
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White Jersey with Bat SSP is #1 for me.
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Old 01-27-2022, 08:01 PM   #42748
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Bat down sapphire. Mainly because the base version shows Andy Reid rolling to the hot dog stand
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Old 01-27-2022, 08:09 PM   #42749
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Check out Ronnie's stories on Intagram to put a smile on your face. Looks like his recovery is coming along well.

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Best Acuna RC's - IMO.

1. Heritage Action
2. Heritage Black Refractor
3. Bat Down
Definitely my favorite RC photo and one of the most undervalued.
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