🏈 🏈 🏈 Mike Evans Presents: The NFL Divisional Round Thread 🏈 🏈 🏈

[Zauron]

Originally Posted by ninjacookies

I mean, the squib would have to still be executed well. If it trickles into the endzone, it's a tb. If it's kicked too short, the returner still gets a good 3-4 seconds to advance it past the 25 where they started, or simply run straight out of bounds and burn only 2 or 3 seconds.

The key thing is that the Chiefs still had multiple time outs. So at the end of the day, they would have had most likely had 2 shots to get in fg range.


I'm more perplexed by their shallow coverage on Kelce on that final pass play allowing all that YAC.

Neither defense was built to stop the opposing offense in those waning moments. Which is why everyone and their momma knew whoever won the coin flip in OT was going to put it away.

All the Bills had to do was play a stronger coverage on that final play where Kelce was free to get 20 yards, and it might be a different outcome.

I don't understand how they let Kelce run free down the seam for that easy completion. AFTER calling a timeout as well. Again, Chiefs went 55 yards in 10 seconds in that situation. That is HORRIBLE defense against that.

[TSonn]

Bill Simmons brought up an interesting idea for overtime on his podcast this morning:

If Team A scores on the first possession of OT then Team B has to score in less than the same amount of plays that it took Team A to score.

So KC took 6 plays to score - Buffalo gets 5 plays to score or the game is over.

[BostonNut]

"By Kansas City; to amend Rule 16 to (1) allow both teams the opportunity to possess the ball at least one time in overtime, even if the first team to possess the ball in overtime scores a touchdown; (2) eliminate overtime for preseason; and (3) eliminate overtime coin toss so that winner of initial coin toss to begin game may choose whether to kick or receive, or which goal to defend."

"Coach [Andy Reid] is working on [getting a change]," Chiefs GM Brett Veach told PFT Live during the 2019 offseason. "I think everybody wants a chance for guys to do what they do. I don’t really see the downside of having that. Especially when you have a player like Pat Mahomes. It would have been a lot of fun. I think people, if they weren’t already tuned in for a great game, would have turned on that overtime."

[TSonn]

Originally Posted by BostonNut

"By Kansas City; to amend Rule 16 to (1) allow both teams the opportunity to possess the ball at least one time in overtime, even if the first team to possess the ball in overtime scores a touchdown; (2) eliminate overtime for preseason; and (3) eliminate overtime coin toss so that winner of initial coin toss to begin game may choose whether to kick or receive, or which goal to defend."

"Coach [Andy Reid] is working on [getting a change]," Chiefs GM Brett Veach told PFT Live during the 2019 offseason. "I think everybody wants a chance for guys to do what they do. I don’t really see the downside of having that. Especially when you have a player like Pat Mahomes. It would have been a lot of fun. I think people, if they weren’t already tuned in for a great game, would have turned on that overtime."

I think the Chiefs and Chiefs fans still agree with this.

[BostonNut]

Originally Posted by TSonn

I think the Chiefs and Chiefs fans still agree with this.

Riiiiiiiiight.

[Dame]

Originally Posted by GOWIFB

I have a bad feeling that next week's games are not going to be good. The Bengals are going to get destroyed by the Chiefs.

Playoffs are just a different beast. I love underdog stories and upsets are more frequent in the NFL but It's going to be a brutal game for Cincinnati.

[TSonn]

Originally Posted by BostonNut

Riiiiiiiiight.

Which teams voted to make this change?

[Super32]

Could the Bills have done this but in reverse?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baCeMpAZIgI

[JeremyNick]

Originally Posted by TSonn

Which teams voted to make this change?

The salt gets better after it ages for a couple years.

Just our resident Buddha digging up old news because he’s so happy.

[JWBlue]

Originally Posted by mfw13

And Sean McDermott should get rightly crucified for not kicking the ball short and forcing the Chiefs to use a few precious seconds on the return. That was the difference between Mahomes having two plays instead of just one....

I wonder if any reporter had the good sense to ask whether this was considered. I don’t believe any would.

[JWBlue]

It is difficult for a team to play respectable defense in an overtime. They become worn down.

[TSonn]

Originally Posted by Super32

Could the Bills have done this but in reverse?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baCeMpAZIgI

They could've held the WRs on the first play of the last possession in the 4th which would've knocked off probably 5 seconds (unless Reid/Mahomes was ready for it and killed the play immediately). I think the next time they'd do that it'd be unsportsmanlike and the Chiefs would be gifted another play.

Probably would've been a smart play to try. But obviously a better kick to waste time would've been the best strategy.

[Onepocketj]

Originally Posted by TSonn

Bill Simmons brought up an interesting idea for overtime on his podcast this morning:

If Team A scores on the first possession of OT then Team B has to score in less than the same amount of plays that it took Team A to score.

So KC took 6 plays to score - Buffalo gets 5 plays to score or the game is over.

What if the first team scores on their first play?

[TSonn]

Originally Posted by Onepocketj

What if the first team scores on their first play?

Game over?

[JWBlue]

If they squib kicked could the Chiefs player that got the ball put his knee down with no time removed from the clock?

[BostonNut]

Originally Posted by TSonn

Which teams voted to make this change?

Chillax fella, just busting yo jimmies.

[Siberian13]

Originally Posted by Onepocketj

What if the first team scores on their first play?

Yeah pretty dumb idea.

[cardrcomeback]

Originally Posted by TSonn

Bill Simmons brought up an interesting idea for overtime on his podcast this morning:

If Team A scores on the first possession of OT then Team B has to score in less than the same amount of plays that it took Team A to score.

So KC took 6 plays to score - Buffalo gets 5 plays to score or the game is over.

What if there's a penalty? Does that count as a play?

[TSonn]

Originally Posted by Onepocketj

What if the first team scores on their first play?

Ah - I see now that you're saying we'd be back in the same situation ("one team didn't get the ball"). That's true and would still be an issue with these OT rules - but it would put a lot more strategy in the playcalling in OT. Does Team A go for broke and try to get it on the first play even though it's most likely more risky?

The counting of plays just puts a lot more strategy and pressure on Team A while usually giving Team B a chance to one-up them.

[cardrcomeback]

Just make OT a 10 minute quarter. Whoever is leading at the end of 10 minutes wins the game.

[TSonn]

Originally Posted by cardrcomeback

What if there's a penalty? Does that count as a play?

I don't know - it's a hypothetical suggestion - do you think it should count as a play?

[TSonn]

Originally Posted by cardrcomeback

Just make OT a 10 minute quarter. Whoever is leading at the end of 10 minutes wins the game.

What if it's tied after 10 minutes? At some point it comes back to sudden death unless the league writes in a rule that allows for the team who doesn't get the ball first an additional opportunity.

[Dbacksbaseball]

Originally Posted by Dbacksbaseball

Bengals over Titans- Dont want to discredit the Titans season, but I keep hearing the Bengals are a year early. When I hear that, that team normally ends up in the Super Bowl. Bengals can outscore every team in the playoffs this year and are hot at the right time.

Packers over 49ers- Going to be closer than anticipated but Rogers does just enough to get this team back into the NFC Championship. I would not sleep on SF +6 ATS though.

Rams over Bucs- Just not totally feeling it with the Bucs minus Godwin. Fournette another week to recover may help but I like Ramsay to lock down Evans and a straight double on Gronk. Means Johnson or Miller may have to win the game for the Bucs. Close game, and can never count out the GOAT but I like Rams in a close one.


Chiefs over Bills- Two very even teams, Bills D gets the nod on that side of the ball and I'm giving the Chiefs O a slight nod on that side of ball. I think the key piece here is post hype mega sleeper Jerrick McKinnon. Was he probably the product last week of a Steelers D that cant defend the RB position all year? Probably. However if he wasn't--and the Chiefs get the Swiss Army Knife at RB Like Damien Williams was a few years back.....that's not good for the rest of the league. Chiefs in a close one if McKinnon plays well. Bill's steal it late if not.

Pretty solid calls two weeks in a row.

9-0 in the playoffs ATS. Sadly and somehow I actually lost money on that Bills game last night as I was heavy into Bills player props and Not Gabe Davis. Lol

[TSonn]

Originally Posted by JWBlue

If they squib kicked could the Chiefs player that got the ball put his knee down with no time removed from the clock?

Yeah good point - if the player gives himself up immediately, maybe 1 or 2 seconds come off the clock?

Still, Mahomes and Co got it down in FG range in 10 seconds (:03 on the clock for the FG snap) - squib kick probably doesn't change much unless the KC player attempts to return it which I'm sure they were all coached to not return it unless it landed in Tyreke's hands.

[mc1]

Originally Posted by oplum29

Bills cost me a perfect 4/4 this weekend.

no way in hell they had the #1 defense or whatever, maybe playing Miami and the Jets helped, idk, but that was insane.

Regular season:
They played 11 games against teams that were 19th or worse in scoring offense. They went 9-2 in those games. 11.5 ppg allowed to the likes of the Texans, Jets, Jaguars, Dolphins and Saints.

The other 6 games were vs Patriots(2), Chiefs, Titans, Colts and Bucs. 2-4 record. 27 ppg allowed.