The Official NBA Regular Season Thread—-21/22 Edition - Page 234

punctilious · 01-13-2022, 08:54 AM

Westbrook for three…

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NeedChapmans · 01-13-2022, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by jcardstore

Westbrook has to be one of the worst players in the NBA at this point and I'm not even being hyperbolic.

He is OK in a vacuum but absolutely terrible when it comes to winning basketball. You cannot win games with WB on your team.

It's been this way for a few years now. Eyes are opened now that he's in LA and not in DC but his game hasn't changed.

Factor in his salary and people are starting to finally understand how detrimental this guy is. Not one of the worst ... absolutely the worst player in the NBA by a wide margin.

jcardstore · 01-13-2022, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

It's been this way for a few years now. Eyes are opened now that he's in LA and not in DC but his game hasn't changed.

Factor in his salary and people are starting to finally understand how detrimental this guy is. Not one of the worst ... absolutely the worst player in the NBA by a wide margin.

Yea I wasn't even considering salary. Factor in salary and he's the worst player by miles.

I'm just talking as a player. He's absolutely horrible.

Boo · 01-13-2022, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

It's been this way for a few years now. Eyes are opened now that he's in LA and not in DC but his game hasn't changed.

Factor in his salary and people are starting to finally understand how detrimental this guy is. Not one of the worst ... absolutely the worst player in the NBA by a wide margin.

As Kuzma has been playing pretty good ball for the past month.

daeve · 01-13-2022, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by jcardstore

Westbrook has to be one of the worst players in the NBA at this point and I'm not even being hyperbolic.

He is OK in a vacuum but absolutely terrible when it comes to winning basketball. You cannot win games with WB on your team.

this was discussed on r/nba the other day, but if you filter Raptor by position, here's the bottom ten PG in WaR- he is terrible this year and there's no other way to slice it.

indyguy · 01-13-2022, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Boo

As Kuzma has been playing pretty good ball for the past month.

His January numbers are stupid:

https://www.espn.com/nba/player/game...907/kyle-kuzma

daeve · 01-13-2022, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by pingbling23

yeah, he got off to a slow start but hes averaging close to a 30 point triple double over the last 9 games. this is the second option folks.

that's the thing, he's not even that, he's the best "1b" in the game because he'd be the best player on most teams in the league.

He's literally 6th on basketball-ref's MVP tracker.

dunkindutchmen · 01-13-2022, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by daeve

this was discussed on r/nba the other day, but if you filter Raptor by position, here's the bottom ten PG in WaR- he is terrible this year and there's no other way to slice it.

lmfao. If I was next to Austin Rivers and Killian Hayes on any list, I'd retire immediately.

Dame · 01-13-2022, 10:04 AM

Still crazy how LBJ won the chip then pivoted so violently with his roster the next two seasons for no apparent reason.

KhalDrogo · 01-13-2022, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Dame

Still crazy how LBJ won the chip then pivoted so violently with his roster the next two seasons for no apparent reason.

It’s not crazy. He’s a narcissist who thinks he is the best GM in the league. He is MJ managing the Wizards.

Dame · 01-13-2022, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

It’s not crazy. He’s a narcissist who thinks he is the best GM in the league. He is MJ managing the Wizards.

I get that, but he has to know the serious implications of acquiring a volatile guard with $80 million of unmovable salary. He’s at the very last leg of his career. There’s simply no room for errors especially when it comes to roster construction.

I guess he’s still a believer in the concept of a “Big 3” but Westbrook? I still can’t comprehend that move. I’d love an ESPN 30 for 30 special on what happened behind closed doors.

KhalDrogo · 01-13-2022, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Dame

I get that, but he has to know the serious implications of acquiring a volatile guard with $80 million of unmovable salary. He’s at the very last leg of his career. There’s simply no room for errors especially when it comes to roster construction.

I guess he’s still a believer in the concept of a “Big 3” but Westbrook? I still can’t comprehend that move. I’d love an ESPN 30 for 30 special on what happened behind closed doors.

I don’t think he does. It was obviously a terrible fit. Anybody who wasn’t a Brick or Lakers stan here could see how this was going to turn out. Bron just isn’t very bright when it comes to anything but how he performs on the court.

imbluestreak23 · 01-13-2022, 10:51 AM

Sad to see the Kings beating LeKANG

Hope he took it easy on Rus

indyguy · 01-13-2022, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Dame

Still crazy how LBJ won the chip then pivoted so violently with his roster the next two seasons for no apparent reason.

I'd say their 20-21 roster was better than their 19-20 roster when they won the finals in the bubble.

From 19-20 to 20-21 they carried over:

Kostas Antetokounmpo
Devontae Cacok
Kentavious Caldwell-Pope
Alex Caruso
Quinn Cook
Anthony Davis
Jared Dudley
Talen Horton-Tucker
LeBron James
Kyle Kuzma
Markieff Morris

AND then added:

Drummond
Marc Gasol
Montrezl Harrell
Damian Jones
Wes Matthews
Alfonzo McKinnie
Ben McLemore
Schroder

This season they carried over:

LeBron
AD
THT

and then brought back Bradley and Howard from the 19-20 roster. Everyone else is new. There was no need to make the move for Westbrook and configure the roster the way it currently is.

Dame · 01-13-2022, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by indyguy

I'd say their 20-21 roster was better than their 19-20 roster when they won the finals in the bubble.

From 19-20 to 20-21 they carried over:

Kostas Antetokounmpo
Devontae Cacok
Kentavious Caldwell-Pope
Alex Caruso
Quinn Cook
Anthony Davis
Jared Dudley
Talen Horton-Tucker
LeBron James
Kyle Kuzma
Markieff Morris

AND then added:

Drummond
Marc Gasol
Montrezl Harrell
Damian Jones
Wes Matthews
Alfonzo McKinnie
Ben McLemore
Schroder

This season they carried over:

LeBron
AD
THT

and then brought back Bradley and Howard from the 19-20 roster. Everyone else is new. There was no need to make the move for Westbrook and configure the roster the way it currently is.

I like the chemistry in that 2019 team but you're right, the 2020 was an improvement, I think 2020 had a higher defensive rating too- Pelinka and LBJ panicked during the offseason after losing to the Suns for no reason.

Buddy Hield was in the bag this year and even if that didn't pan out, moving him along with Nunn, THT can get them another piece or two to play with. Now, Westbrook's contract is pretty much the nail in their coffin. I've seen stranger things in this league but I think this is it for LBJ's hope for a 2nd title in LA.

sigmachi · 01-13-2022, 11:15 AM

Austin Reaves played a great game last night in the loss. I can't believe they didn't put him in hoops!

bigjbasketball · 01-13-2022, 11:41 AM

Woj bomb - Cam Reddish to the Knicks in a deal that includes Kevin Knox and a 2022 first round pick via Charlotte. Knicks also acquire Solomon Hill and a 2025 second round pick via Brooklyn.

yiguiri2002 · 01-13-2022, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by bigjbasketball

Woj bomb - Cam Reddish to the Knicks in a deal that includes Kevin Knox and a 2022 first round pick via Charlotte. Knicks also acquire Solomon Hill and a 2025 second round pick via Brooklyn.

The Hawks are getting a lottery pick for Reddish? Wow

BeastMode27 · 01-13-2022, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by yiguiri2002

The Hawks are getting a lottery pick for Reddish? Wow

No. It’s too 18 protected from Charlotte. They are currently 20th.

Dame · 01-13-2022, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by bigjbasketball

Woj bomb - Cam Reddish to the Knicks in a deal that includes Kevin Knox and a 2022 first round pick via Charlotte. Knicks also acquire Solomon Hill and a 2025 second round pick via Brooklyn.

RJ
Cam

We all know who's coming next.

Above the Rim · 01-13-2022, 11:52 AM

DeRozan was also in the bag

indyguy · 01-13-2022, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Dame

RJ
Cam

We all know who's coming next.

Mike Dunleavy retired after getting kicked in the face.

Dame · 01-13-2022, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by indyguy

Mike Dunleavy retired after getting kicked in the face.

Dame · 01-13-2022, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by pingbling23

kyrie can play home games but they would just have to pay a fine? that makes no sense. let the man play.

https://mobile.twitter.com/wojespn/s...5Es1_&ref_url=

KhalDrogo · 01-13-2022, 12:40 PM

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https://mobile.twitter.com/wojespn/s...5Es1_&ref_url=

Damn. I was hoping the team, league, and city would fall for the trap.

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