Best All Time Running Back

[starfox]

Originally Posted by starfox

I'm agreeing with you. But sadly, a lot of people here act like Emmitt was just an average back. But you and I know what we saw. I'm not saying he has to be ranked number one, but you can't rank him less than fourth or fifth.
No running back was more tested and passed the test more than Emmitt. Now here comes the part where people get to saying it was all his offensive line. Sure: like they could help him carry the ball, or feel that pain he had to endure with all the carries he took on.

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[Siberian13]

Originally Posted by starfox

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[starfox]

Originally Posted by Siberian13

See the two posts before.

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[Siberian13]

I remember watching the game where Emmitt dislocated his shoulder and kept playing. He was always tough.

[Siberian13]

Originally Posted by starfox

See the two posts before.

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[starfox]

Originally Posted by Siberian13

I remember watching the game where Emmitt dislocated his shoulder and kept playing. He was always tough.

I did, too, but most on BO conveniently forget or are too young to know have actually watched. They don't think much of Emmitt. I understand it. I just know he should be somewhere in the top four or five every time. He's proven. Regular season and postseason.

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[Stifle]

Originally Posted by starfox

I'm agreeing with you. But sadly, a lot of people here act like Emmitt was just an average back. But you and I know what we saw. I'm not saying he has to be ranked number one, but you can't rank him less than fourth or fifth.
No running back was more tested and passed the test than Emmitt. Now here comes the part where people get to saying it was all his offensive line. Sure: like they could help him carry the ball, or feel that pain he had to endure with all the carries he took on.

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I can’t rank Emmitt above the other 3 but that isn’t a insult. Out of the thousands of running backs in the history of the game, being number 4 is outstanding. Think about picking any other position and it’s tough finding only 4.

If Jim Brown had to play vs the skill level, speed of what Barry and Emmitt’s defenders skill level was, and still had the same production, I would place him first. Back in the day, how many defenders could run like Brown?

[Siberian13]

Originally Posted by starfox

I did, too, but most on BO conveniently forget or are too young to know have actually watched. They don't think much of Emmitt. I understand it. I just know he should be somewhere in the top four or five every time. He's proven. Regular season and postseason.

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It’s hard with RBs as there isn’t a clear GOAT or #1 to me. Brady and Rice are easy to pick at their positions. I mean all of these are great for their time. So many to choose from

[Stifle]

Originally Posted by Siberian13

Yes!!!

It’s strange we tend to overlook what these guys were off the field. But yeah performance wise I’d assume OJ Simpson has to be high on the list. 2000 and 1800 yards in 14 game seasons. Pretty good

If we go on that rant, America wasn’t founded by forefathers who were angelic. Even Paul one of the greatest writers in the history of mankind changed from “Saul”.

As for LT, the playoffs are the time to “Man Up” and all the wear and tear, it’s game time for gamers. I didn’t see that in him but he was a top 10, but not top 4.

[JWBlue]

I dunno. Barry Sanders is the Michael Jordan of RBs. I am not sure there is a discussion of who is the GOAT.

[titletowncards]

Originally Posted by Siberian13

I remember watching the game where Emmitt dislocated his shoulder and kept playing. He was always tough.

It was a seperated shoulder (AC joint) not a dislocated shoulder, which would have been impossible to play through. Still, that game made me think differently about how great he really was.

[Siberian13]

Originally Posted by titletowncards

It was a seperated shoulder (AC joint) not a dislocated shoulder, which would have been impossible to play through. Still, that game made me think differently about how great he really was.

Gotcha. Still I’m always impressed when you see guys play through pain.

[Retired hobbist]

Originally Posted by JWBlue

I dunno. Barry Sanders is the Michael Jordan of RBs. I am not sure there is a discussion of who is the GOAT.

More like the Dominque, spectacular but he never won anything. I remember Sanders not being able to get a hard yard and Detroit bringing in Tommy Vardell to do the job. Walter didn't need a fullback to do that.

[Anish]

Originally Posted by Stifle

I can’t rank Emmitt above the other 3 but that isn’t a insult. Out of the thousands of running backs in the history of the game, being number 4 is outstanding. Think about picking any other position and it’s tough finding only 4.

If Jim Brown had to play vs the skill level, speed of what Barry and Emmitt’s defenders skill level was, and still had the same production, I would place him first. Back in the day, how many defenders could run like Brown?

People are sleeping on JB. If he played today he’d benefit from training advances just as much as everyone else. He’d basically dominate like Derrick Henry does.

[grade]

*Jim Brown the Wilt Chamberlain of Football. Just too big for that era. Dont blame the athlete for being bigger, stronger and faster than everyone else.

*Barry Sanders the Allen Iverson of Football. Both are incredible natural athletes stuck on crappy teams.

[jplarson]

Originally Posted by 49erRCCollector

It's a conscious cognitive self-disconnect. I love football. The idea that a lot of players are terrible people makes it less enjoyable.

Same with music. Horrible people, great music.

Yeah same with LT. I remember the highs and do my best to ignore the lows. There's actors whose movies I love but their galaxy brain takes are the worst.

[jplarson]

Originally Posted by 49erRCCollector

Lots of dudes would not be on my "really awesome guy" list.

But you are.

Really Awesome Guy List:
1) Siberian 13

I think the REAL question here is.....




How will history remember Siberian13?

[Archangel1775]

Originally Posted by grade

*Jim Brown the Wilt Chamberlain of Football. Just too big for that era. Dont blame the athlete for being bigger, stronger and faster than everyone else.

*Barry Sanders the Allen Iverson of Football. Both are incredible natural athletes stuck on crappy teams.

Great point. I would imagine the feeling of watching Derrick Henry today would be like watching Jim Brown back then. That's pretty damn special.

[Siberian13]

Originally Posted by jplarson

I think the REAL question here is.....




How will history remember Siberian13?

It won’t

[Stifle]

Originally Posted by Retired hobbist

More like the Dominque, spectacular but he never won anything. I remember Sanders not being able to get a hard yard and Detroit bringing in Tommy Vardell to do the job. Walter didn't need a fullback to do that.

What did Jordan win until he was surrounded by more talent and a Coach with direction?

Walter Payton had a solid defense and then acquired a Coach who had direction unlike what the Lions attempt to do.

A running back isn’t equal to a quarterback, Tom Brady.

The Lions have won 1 playoff game in 64 seasons and Barry was a large part of that. Detroit has zero direction in its organization. For Barry to win 1 playoff game is doubling Kevin Garnett’s ability to help advance the Timberwolves in the playoffs.

How many organizations flip from a run and shoot offense to acquiring Bobby Ross’s philosophy of a power grind offense where they draft what was then and nearly is still today the 2 largest Tackles in the history of the game, Aaron Gibson and S. McDougal in first round drafts. The Lions frustrate Barry so much, they are then pleased to acquire James Stewart for their new ground and pound running attack. Only to have Ross quit and then the Lions select a different coach who decides to go to a “normal” offensive design that makes 2 first round players useless. That is the Lions and what Barry had to deal with.

[Giroux]

Originally Posted by jplarson

I think the REAL question here is.....









How will history remember Siberian13?

Bald ?

[Stifle]

Originally Posted by Anish

People are sleeping on JB. If he played today he’d benefit from training advances just as much as everyone else. He’d basically dominate like Derrick Henry does.

Back in the day, the best athletes were placed on offense. It wasn’t Jim Brown’s fault that better skilled athletes were placed on the other side of the ball. It was the philosophy of football at that time.

Don Hutson didn’t face cornerbacks / safeties who had the skill level he possessed but would I rank him ahead of Jerry Rice or denounce his greatness. Hutson is easily a top 10 wide receiver who is always forgotten but he didn’t compete vs Deion Sanders, Darrell Green, etc.

Look at Don Hutson’s stats between 36-45 if he didn’t lead a category he was virtually no lower than 2nd for 10 consecutive season. Even in 35 his rookie year he was in the top 3. He could be classified as the most dominant NFL player EVER for a decade. He just didn’t compete against what we would classify as elite DB’s.

[Westwave]

Never saw Brown play and only caught Payton towards the end, Barry is the greatest RB I have ever seen and no one has even been or probably will ever be close to him.

Especially since the game has changed to a pass first league.

[jplarson]

Originally Posted by Stifle

Don Hutson didn’t face cornerbacks / safeties who had the skill level he possessed but would I rank him ahead of Jerry Rice or denounce his greatness. Hutson is easily a top 10 wide receiver who is always forgotten but he didn’t compete vs Deion Sanders, Darrell Green, etc.

Did you mean "wouldn't" or are you saying that you would rank Hutson ahead of Rice?

[Dunkaccino]

Originally Posted by JWBlue

I dunno. Barry Sanders is the Michael Jordan of RBs. I am not sure there is a discussion of who is the GOAT.

gotta agree with this