Which HOF’ers would you classify as stat compilers?

[texmcpherson]

It’s no argument that some of the players in the HOF have been titled with “accumulating” stats vs. actually being the best during their era. I think with some players we see a little bit of both (Albert Pujols comes to mind, elite but padding stats at this point). During the process of collecting HOF autos I’ve noticed there are certain players whose counting stats look pretty solid but when you look at their career it really doesn’t appear that way. They were never league leaders or had eye popping seasons but rather consistent or above average for their entire career, which usually are 20+ years of service. Which players come to mind?

Bert blyleven anyone?

[Jedi1823]

Harold Baines

[theshowandme]

I do not really like the term, but I get what you mean. To compile a large number of counting stats you have to play at a high level for a long time. That is admirable. Some guys go on crazy runs in 7-10 years that make them a HoFer, others it takes a full 15-20 year career of being above average to make it in.

Craig Biggio had only two top-5 MVP finishes but he also played in a loaded era. He had 200 hits only once. He was blessed with good health, good work ethic, and was a "pro's pro" if you know what I mean. I guess he would fit that definition of a stat compiler. He hit the magic 3,000 number and still took 3 ballots to get in

[mfw13]

Don Sutton, Craig Biggio, Tom Glavine.....pretty much anybody who hung around long after they stopped being effective to try to get to a magic number (i.e. 3000 hits or 300 wins).

[MoreToppsPlease]

What’s wrong with “stat compilers”? Nothing.

[fabiani12333]

Rickey Henderson's last three seasons were very bad, but it got him over 3,000 hits.

[SupermanBrandon]

The only people that like “stat compilers” are flippers.


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[fabiani12333]

Originally Posted by MoreToppsPlease

What’s wrong with “stat compilers”? Nothing.

Because it's a washed up veteran living off their name, trying to get some key milestone stats to bolster their Hall resume.

[rms13]

Willie Mays

[fabiani12333]

The opposite of a compiler -- Mike Mussina. He retired with 270 wins and his final season was very good.

[fabiani12333]

Originally Posted by rms13

Willie Mays

Ah -- come on. He was an all star his second-to-last season.

[Astros19]

Originally Posted by MoreToppsPlease

What’s wrong with “stat compilers”? Nothing.

That and it's impossible to tell whether said player was Stat compiling or just not ready to walk away from the game they love.

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[Zauron]

Craig Biggio definitely, his last 6 seasons(from age 36-41), he compiled a total WAR of 4.6. He wasn't as awful as I remembered him being at the plate, but defensively yes.

[fabiani12333]

Eddie Murray was a crappy bench player for 4 teams his last two seasons, but it got him to 500 home runs.

[rms13]

Pujols Not HOF but will be

[Jsquared123]

Dave Winfield.

Really good for a really long time but never truly great IMO.

[Hollywood42]

Originally Posted by rms13

Pujols Not HOF but will be

[rms13]

Originally Posted by Astros19

That and it's impossible to tell whether said player was Stat compiling or just not ready to walk away from the game they love.

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Which is why it shouldn't matter. Voters should be people who actually covered the sport and watched these guys play every year and they should be intelligent enough to determine how good they were compared to their peers and how long they played at an elite level and not vote for people because they played 20+ years and reached stupid milestones that may or not even be relevant in current times

[80s Kid]

Originally Posted by rms13

Which is why it shouldn't matter. Voters should be people who actually covered the sport and watched these guys play every year and they should be intelligent enough to determine how good they were compared to their peers and how long they played at an elite level and not vote for people because they played 20+ years and reached stupid milestones that may or not even be relevant in current times

20 years is a long time to play. Just being able to start at a position at the top level for 20 years is an accomplishment. It’s not like MLB is a beer league. Someone is paying the player good money to keep playing.

[pspa123]

Miggy.. Yaz lingered a long time and wasn't all that good his final years.

[MoreToppsPlease]

Originally Posted by fabiani12333

Because it's a washed up veteran living off their name, trying to get some key milestone stats to bolster their Hall resume.

There are two types of stats: “milestone” accumulating stats and percentage stats.

If he’s an unworthy accumulator, then his percentage stats dive, making him a poor HOF candidate.

Many bad accumulating stats include errors, GIDP, Ks (for hitters), etc.

So it’s all a wash. Accumulators will only be considered bad under particular circumstances only and not all.

Plus, the HOF ain’t all ‘bout stats.

[pspa123]

Originally Posted by Hollywood42

I think he's just saying he's not in the HOF yet (the OP asked about HOFers), not that he isn't deserving.

[80s Kid]

Originally Posted by pspa123

Miggy.. Yaz lingered a long time and wasn't all that good his final years.

Miggy is interesting because he has the awards and doesn’t need to get to 3,000 hits for the HoF.

I’d keep lingering as well with that contract.

[no10pin]

I think there's a difference between guys who play too long and what the OP is asking.

Guys like Cabrera, Yastrzemski (both triple crown winners), Mays and Henderson are not stat compilers. Yeah, they played past their peak, but they are all 1st ballot-HOFers if they hadn't added to their final numbers.

[Randallk34]

Cal Ripken Jr