This feels off...

BeefSupreme · 11-01-2021, 11:55 PM

I have a superfactor auto listed on eBay as a BIN at a pretty high price. A potential buyer messaged me with a low-ball bid. I politely told him that he wasn't close. He replied with a bid that was double his previous bid, but still low. His account was started in Jan '21, and he has 99 feedback, only 1 of which occured in the last month. It seems a little odd that a guy with so few recent purchases would buy a card for a few grand, right? Is there a reputable escrow service that guarantees delivery of both the card and the cash? I'm not sure I'd be okay shipping it out without one. If the buyer had an extensive purchase history, I'd be way less nervous about it.

speedyjg13 · 11-02-2021, 12:01 AM

Link to your listing?

Trueblue · 11-02-2021, 12:12 AM

I've had many high end cards (thousands) purchased by buyers with sporadic purchase history with no issues. Some people just don't buy cards often but PC certain players. I'd be less concerned if it was an established player. Just pack and insure it appropriately.

Ferg1945 · 11-02-2021, 12:12 AM

Can you see anything that he has purchased? Is it high end? Could be why they haven't purchased anything in a while.

BeefSupreme · 11-02-2021, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Ferg1945

Can you see anything that he has purchased? Is it high end? Could be why they haven't purchased anything in a while.

I can't see anything he's bought. It could be 99 different dollar cards.

BeefSupreme · 11-02-2021, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by speedyjg13

Link to your listing?

I'm actually hesitant to post the listing here. I legitimately am not posting this to draw attention to the listing itself. If you really want to know, I can DM you.

badkarma318 · 11-02-2021, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by BeefSupreme

I'm actually hesitant to post the listing here. I legitimately am not posting this to draw attention to the listing itself. If you really want to know, I can DM you.

Good call - he's likely a member, as there are numerous Low-ball Larrys on here.

MoreToppsPlease · 11-02-2021, 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by badkarma318

Good call - he's likely a member, as there are numerous Low-ball Larrys on here.

Why shouldn’t there be?

There’s nothing unusual about the OP’s scenario. In fact, what happened here should happen all the time.

Bambino22 · 11-02-2021, 05:37 AM

I have bought multiple superfractors with small history on ebay. Doubling the offer is nothing strange as expected prices of superfractors vary wildly.

99 feedback seems like plenty to me if it was positive feedback. And people take breaks, that's normal.

Take the sale if you like the price.

hammertime · 11-02-2021, 06:00 AM

I mean what feedback rating would you be comfortable with? Someone with 1000 could've just bought 1000 $0.25 cards...

rogueriver · 11-02-2021, 06:29 AM

I wouldn't be as concerned because he did make offers for lower prices...If he was going to outright rip you off he wouldn't care how much he paid right, he would have just hit by it now....Just my take on it.

MiamiMarlinsFan · 11-02-2021, 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by BeefSupreme

I have a superfactor auto listed on eBay as a BIN at a pretty high price. A potential buyer messaged me with a low-ball bid. I politely told him that he wasn't close. He replied with a bid that was double his previous bid, but still low. His account was started in Jan '21, and he has 99 feedback, only 1 of which occured in the last month. It seems a little odd that a guy with so few recent purchases would buy a card for a few grand, right? Is there a reputable escrow service that guarantees delivery of both the card and the cash? I'm not sure I'd be okay shipping it out without one. If the buyer had an extensive purchase history, I'd be way less nervous about it.

If it’s still too low, and you’re not selling, then what’s the the concern? Is the “still too low” price actually more like “close enough”?

MiamiMarlinsFan · 11-02-2021, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by badkarma318

Good call - he's likely a member, as there are numerous Low-ball Larrys on here.

I’ll stop being a Low Ball Larry when the offers stop being accepted

Banks8181 · 11-02-2021, 07:09 AM

Trying to get a good deal is one thing. But I have no time for you ding dongs out there that offer up a quarter of market value. Anyone that tells me what the “last” one sold for also annoys me.

Bambino22 · 11-02-2021, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Banks8181

Trying to get a good deal is one thing. But I have no time for you ding dongs out there that offer up a quarter of market value. Anyone that tells me what the “last” one sold for also annoys me.

I'll bite. Your post seems way off..

Someone telling you what the last one sold for on auction or on regular sale seems like a great comp for the next sale. That's how markets work.

BeefSupreme · 11-02-2021, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by hammertime

I mean what feedback rating would you be comfortable with? Someone with 1000 could've just bought 1000 $0.25 cards...

True, but it was the distribution of his feedback that struck me as odd. Member less than 12 months, with 99 percent in the first 6 months.

BeefSupreme · 11-02-2021, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by MiamiMarlinsFan

If it’s still too low, and you’re not selling, then what’s the the concern? Is the “still too low” price actually more like “close enough”?

Not yet, but it is approaching the neighborhood. My concern is of I should treat this as a serious offer or not, based on his unusual buyer profile. In addition, I was seriously asking about an escrow service.

slambam · 11-02-2021, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by BeefSupreme

I have a superfactor auto listed on eBay as a BIN at a pretty high price. A potential buyer messaged me with a low-ball bid. I politely told him that he wasn't close. He replied with a bid that was double his previous bid, but still low. His account was started in Jan '21, and he has 99 feedback, only 1 of which occured in the last month. It seems a little odd that a guy with so few recent purchases would buy a card for a few grand, right? Is there a reputable escrow service that guarantees delivery of both the card and the cash? I'm not sure I'd be okay shipping it out without one. If the buyer had an extensive purchase history, I'd be way less nervous about it.

If he was going to just rip you off and just file a PayPal dispute, why would he even be negotiating a price? Wouldn't be just buy it and then file a dispute? I'm a very sporadic buyer, although I'm not dropping thousands on one card. The guy made almost 100 purchases this year and it's not extensive enough? I don't see any issue with him offering double, he was probably trying to low ball to see how good of an offer you returned with. Sorry if it comes off as rude, but I just have a hard time seeing your issues here.

rms13 · 11-02-2021, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Bambino22

I'll bite. Your post seems way off..

Someone telling you what the last one sold for on auction or on regular sale seems like a great comp for the next sale. That's how markets work.

Agreed. I don’t understand why people get insulted by facts. Sorry if your card isn’t worth what you want it to be worth. If I was buyer I’d want to pay around the price of the last sale. That doesn’t seem like a scam.

HOFAutoRookies · 11-02-2021, 09:00 AM

I don't get why this is a big deal. The potential buyer isn't even close to your offer. Don't know why there needs to be a thread. Maybe if they actually came to your price, but not this...

Bambino22 · 11-02-2021, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by HOFAutoRookies

I don't get why this is a big deal. The potential buyer isn't even close to your offer. Don't know why there needs to be a thread. Maybe if they actually came to your price, but not this...

Op was also asking about escrow service which was a reason for the thread also.

Luisrobertholi · 11-02-2021, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by BeefSupreme

Not yet, but it is approaching the neighborhood. My concern is of I should treat this as a serious offer or not, based on his unusual buyer profile. In addition, I was seriously asking about an escrow service.

I’ve had someone with less feedback and less time on eBay purchase a 3000$ dollar Justin Herbert card from me. I’m sure you’ll be fine, just insure it

MiamiMarlinsFan · 11-02-2021, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by BeefSupreme

Not yet, but it is approaching the neighborhood. My concern is of I should treat this as a serious offer or not, based on his unusual buyer profile. In addition, I was seriously asking about an escrow service.

I always start low and work my up from there. How does his offer compare to recent eBay auction comps?

rms13 · 11-02-2021, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by HOFAutoRookies

I don't get why this is a big deal. The potential buyer isn't even close to your offer. Don't know why there needs to be a thread. Maybe if they actually came to your price, but not this...

Pretty sure it’s a ploy to get more eyeballs on their listing

BeefSupreme · 11-02-2021, 11:03 AM

Wow, so everyone has nefarious intent? And, that's why I didn't link to my listing? I literally asked about a 3rd party escrow service. Am I the owner of one of those, and I'm shilling for that? Life can be a little better without being so cynical.

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11-01-2021, 11:55 PM	#1
BeefSupreme Member Join Date: Mar 2021 Posts: 162	This feels off... I have a superfactor auto listed on eBay as a BIN at a pretty high price. A potential buyer messaged me with a low-ball bid. I politely told him that he wasn't close. He replied with a bid that was double his previous bid, but still low. His account was started in Jan '21, and he has 99 feedback, only 1 of which occured in the last month. It seems a little odd that a guy with so few recent purchases would buy a card for a few grand, right? Is there a reputable escrow service that guarantees delivery of both the card and the cash? I'm not sure I'd be okay shipping it out without one. If the buyer had an extensive purchase history, I'd be way less nervous about it.

11-02-2021, 12:01 AM	#2
speedyjg13 Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 17,268	Link to your listing? __________________ Current PC: Mike Trout Prior PC: David Fletcher & Jered Weaver https://www.flickr.com/photos/speedyjg13/albums

11-02-2021, 05:37 AM	#9
Bambino22 Member Join Date: Oct 2020 Location: NoVA Posts: 2,567	I have bought multiple superfractors with small history on ebay. Doubling the offer is nothing strange as expected prices of superfractors vary wildly. 99 feedback seems like plenty to me if it was positive feedback. And people take breaks, that's normal. Take the sale if you like the price. __________________ I collect Juan Soto, Yordan Alvarez, and Marco Luciano. Looking for Yordan Alvarez /5 2020 Sterling Auto.

11-02-2021, 12:12 AM	#3
Trueblue Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: socal Posts: 6,739	I've had many high end cards (thousands) purchased by buyers with sporadic purchase history with no issues. Some people just don't buy cards often but PC certain players. I'd be less concerned if it was an established player. Just pack and insure it appropriately.

11-02-2021, 12:12 AM	#4
Ferg1945 Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Midwest Posts: 14,720	Can you see anything that he has purchased? Is it high end? Could be why they haven't purchased anything in a while.

11-02-2021, 06:00 AM	#10
hammertime Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: OH->MI->MD->VA Posts: 6,889	I mean what feedback rating would you be comfortable with? Someone with 1000 could've just bought 1000 $0.25 cards...

11-02-2021, 06:29 AM	#11
rogueriver Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: Texas Posts: 970 rogueriver	I wouldn't be as concerned because he did make offers for lower prices...If he was going to outright rip you off he wouldn't care how much he paid right, he would have just hit by it now....Just my take on it.

11-02-2021, 07:09 AM	#14
Banks8181 Member Join Date: Sep 2019 Location: Halifax, NS, Canada Posts: 504 chba-9337	Trying to get a good deal is one thing. But I have no time for you ding dongs out there that offer up a quarter of market value. Anyone that tells me what the “last” one sold for also annoys me.

11-02-2021, 09:00 AM	#20
HOFAutoRookies Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Medina, MN Posts: 4,922	I don't get why this is a big deal. The potential buyer isn't even close to your offer. Don't know why there needs to be a thread. Maybe if they actually came to your price, but not this...

11-02-2021, 11:03 AM	#25
BeefSupreme Member Join Date: Mar 2021 Posts: 162	Wow, so everyone has nefarious intent? And, that's why I didn't link to my listing? I literally asked about a 3rd party escrow service. Am I the owner of one of those, and I'm shilling for that? Life can be a little better without being so cynical. Sent from my SM-N986U using Tapatalk