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Old 09-28-2021, 12:29 PM   #23001
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Soccer MC pre-releases has turned me into a flipper.

I have zero interest in keeping soccer but yet I know - now - that it's always worth the purchase and an easy profit.
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Old 09-28-2021, 12:31 PM   #23002
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The 2021 Bowman Chrome Green Atomic looks exactly like Green Sapphire from 2021 Bowman. That is all I was saying. They have never "Sapphire'd" regular Bowman Chrome so I'm not expecting this time either I was just stating they look identical. Same thing with the Blue Mojo - Mojo has been the parallel found in Mega Boxes exclusively for a few years now. Maybe I'm the misinformed one but seems pretty silly.
Chrome HTA has had the green atomics since 2018 and the blue mojos since 2019, and yes they do look exactly the same as Sapphire atomics or Mega mojos. Doesn't really tell us anything one way or another about whether there will be Sapphire or Mega products. Mega's never have 1st autos (unless by mistake), so those are easy. Sapphire would just have to use something besides green to avoid confusion with the HTA green atomics. I'm not expecting Bowman Chrome Sapphire either. I am expecting Megas though.
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Old 09-28-2021, 12:33 PM   #23003
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Chrome HTA has had the green atomics since 2018 and the blue mojos since 2019, and yes they do look exactly the same as Sapphire atomics or Mega mojos. Doesn't really tell us anything one way or another about whether there will be Sapphire or Mega products. Mega's never have 1st autos (unless by mistake), so those are easy. Sapphire would just have to use something besides green to avoid confusion with the HTA green atomics.
It wouldn't be hard to print BC Sapphire without green, or replace with another shade of color.
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Old 09-28-2021, 12:35 PM   #23004
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Understood, and still think what I said will be accurate. There isn't enough buyers at inflated secondary numbers to keep the price high initially. It will come down quickly. Then, over time, as supply "dries up" it will rise. Pepi is a nice draw, but you can't compare him to Moukoko and Bellingham which are both in Bundesliga Sapphire at $350ish a box right now. The kicker here is the autograph potential on the high side. On the other end, you are going to have some boxes net $50 or so in returns. A huge percentage of this checklist will not sell at any price. So it will be interesting to weigh all of that out and see just where the bottom ends up. I think they will settle lower than some think. And I am not dogging the product. I bought my limits on all accounts and plan on buying more when that bottom does come.
I agree with you almost 100%. My huge concern right now is just the market not holding on anything. Stuff that would have sold in seconds 6-8 months ago sits for months now.

This really hurts these second/third tier type sports/products.
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Old 09-28-2021, 12:36 PM   #23005
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It wouldn't be hard to print BC Sapphire without green, or replace with another shade of color.
Yes, that's what I said. Although we are talking about Topps here. The would probably replace with "mint green" and just not change the color.
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Old 09-28-2021, 12:48 PM   #23006
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I got my three boxes even though it’s soccer.
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Old 09-28-2021, 01:01 PM   #23007
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I agree with you almost 100%. My huge concern right now is just the market not holding on anything. Stuff that would have sold in seconds 6-8 months ago sits for months now.

This really hurts these second/third tier type sports/products.
This is a product (as is MLS Chrome) that should be put away till the World Cup. That gives the market a chance to dip, settle, and start moving up towards that climax. Or, another angle, if you get in cheap enough is to take advantage of the time between now and then to list every single individual card you can in preparation of having thousands of singles listed when the frenzy starts.

But with that being said, I agree completely with what you said too. The market is always changing and you have to be on your game to stay in front of it.
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Old 09-28-2021, 01:02 PM   #23008
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I love Montgomery Club as we are nearing the end....Fanatics Montgomery Club here we come lol!
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Old 09-28-2021, 01:07 PM   #23009
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This is a product (as is MLS Chrome) that should be put away till the World Cup. That gives the market a chance to dip, settle, and start moving up towards that climax. Or, another angle, if you get in cheap enough is to take advantage of the time between now and then to list every single individual card you can in preparation of having thousands of singles listed when the frenzy starts.



But with that being said, I agree completely with what you said too. The market is always changing and you have to be on your game to stay in front of it.
I'm hoping most flip to breakers right now so sealed boxes become somewhat rare in upcoming years. This has a potential to be a monster. Will be interesting to see the box odds.

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Old 09-28-2021, 01:12 PM   #23010
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I just got shipping notification for Mont Club set #3
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Old 09-28-2021, 01:13 PM   #23011
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I'm hoping most flip to breakers right now so sealed boxes become somewhat rare in upcoming years. This has a potential to be a monster. Will be interesting to see the box odds.
There will be a lot of it opened I think, but when you are talking +50k boxes, it will take awhile to see the effects. This isn't chrome baseball or prizm basketball. You won't see that kind of volume opened in that short of time span. Couple that with the smaller base of collectors for this and you get the short term bottom pricing that I mentioned. I don't think there will be big returns for the flippers right now. Not compared to some other products.
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Old 09-28-2021, 01:15 PM   #23012
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Uhhhh it's almost October, isn't membership renewal coming up in just over a month? Are we ever going to get all of our free sets?
They just added set 3 to my account page.
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This is a product (as is MLS Chrome) that should be put away till the World Cup. That gives the market a chance to dip, settle, and start moving up towards that climax. Or, another angle, if you get in cheap enough is to take advantage of the time between now and then to list every single individual card you can in preparation of having thousands of singles listed when the frenzy starts.

But with that being said, I agree completely with what you said too. The market is always changing and you have to be on your game to stay in front of it.
World Cup won't do anything.
Everyone said that about Euros.

What difference will it make on some bums in the MLS.

Most superstars won't do anything at the World Cup let alone some MLB bums.
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Old 09-28-2021, 01:19 PM   #23014
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Whats the print runs on the other soccer MC boxes?
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Old 09-28-2021, 01:20 PM   #23015
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World Cup won't do anything.
Everyone said that about Euros.

What difference will it make on some bums in the MLS.

Most superstars won't do anything at the World Cup let alone some MLB bums.
Good, you hate the product. Makes me 100% confident in it.
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Old 09-28-2021, 01:42 PM   #23016
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Good, you hate the product. Makes me 100% confident in it.
Time to double down!!!
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Old 09-28-2021, 01:43 PM   #23017
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If anyone doesn't want their Montgomery Club allocation, PM me.Thanks!
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Old 09-28-2021, 01:45 PM   #23018
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You people will literally buy anything…if they came out with sapphire volleyball you guys would be all over it
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So you didn't get a 582 membership huh?

And yes - a Lexi Sun Sapphire Auto would sell VERY well.
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Old 09-28-2021, 01:45 PM   #23019
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Getting ridiculous with tax and shipping prices, they're long overdue to allow reseller state tax exempt IDs
There always had that. I've had my tax exempt account for 4 years now

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Old 09-28-2021, 01:47 PM   #23020
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Old 09-28-2021, 01:48 PM   #23021
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Just received notice that my Set 3 from
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I just received notice my Bowman Chrome shipped, hoping I see the MC set 3 soon too.


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Old 09-28-2021, 01:49 PM   #23022
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There always had that. I've had my tax exempt account for 4 years now

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Old 09-28-2021, 02:03 PM   #23023
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Do you just email them to add your reseller certificate?
Also curious since I guess it was panini I last asked about it. Once you add on topps can you recover/refund paid sales tax then via the state?
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Old 09-28-2021, 02:43 PM   #23024
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Just got notice that Montgomery Club set #3 has shipped. Anyone have any idea if this is the auto set? sticker? did we ever do the fan choice? I have lost track given how long its been.

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Old 09-28-2021, 02:49 PM   #23025
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Just got notice that Montgomery Club set #3 has shipped. Anyone have any idea if this is the auto set? sticker? did we ever do the fan choice? I have lost track given how long its been.
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