Stana Signature Snafu

[cmixer]

Ugh;
Any chance she just don't remember signing stickers 13 years ago?

[Zeldafanatic15]

Definitely a good possibility. My favorite example is GTS does a weekly show where they promote products, they opened a box of GOTG V2 and pulled a Tommy Flanagan auto, since they do them live they tagged him on Twitter during the show, he replied back that it was fake until someone reminded him they were stickers that he signed, I guess he was confused because to him all he saw was a card that had his auto on it and good chance he never saw those. He later deleted the tweet and changed his story.

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[nabzy28]

Would have to find exemplars from that specific time frame in order to really compare. I just glanced over some PSA authenticated stuff on eBay and the entire formation of the "St" is wrong on that sticker and it looks like she connects all the letters of "ana". Could be secretarial and someone just signed 'em all and she never even knew about them, unfortunately.

[bone]

Didn't Jeffrey Dean Morgan do the same thing? I think it was for one of Topps' Walking Dead set.

[BobCollects]

I have one of these cards. I'm a big fan of Stana Katic so I'm going to be bummed if the autograph isn't authentic. It definitely doesn't look like her current signature but The Spirit came out more than a decade ago and a year before her breakout role on Castle. Maybe she changed her signature when she started signing tons of Castle stuff.

[TheDude1138]

Originally Posted by BobCollects

I have one of these cards. I'm a big fan of Stana Katic so I'm going to be bummed if the autograph isn't authentic. It definitely doesn't look like her current signature but The Spirit came out more than a decade ago and a year before her breakout role on Castle. Maybe she changed her signature when she started signing tons of Castle stuff.

That's what makes this interesting. She has been re-versioning her signature over time. True there are differences to the card but there is also a similar style. In 2008 it is not like she was in any sort of demand as an actress.

The other issue, if this is a fake it was most likely committed on her side of the contract with Inkworks. As a company they did not have a problem pulling cards that didn't get signed. If it was late they would do a redemption card. Her card was not a selling point for the release at the time. There is no up side for Inkworks to risk releasing a fake as far as I can see.

[galar]

Originally Posted by TheDude1138

That's what makes this interesting. She has been re-versioning her signature over time. True there are differences to the card but there is also a similar style. In 2008 it is not like she was in any sort of demand as an actress.

The other issue, if this is a fake it was most likely committed on her side of the contract with Inkworks. As a company they did not have a problem pulling cards that didn't get signed. If it was late they would do a redemption card. Her card was not a selling point for the release at the time. There is no up side for Inkworks to risk releasing a fake as far as I can see.

My thoughts also. I would assume Inkworks just sent out their cards/stickers to the actors or their management and trust them to sign them. With all the autographs and products that Inkworks were producing at the time, I cannot imaging they would fake an autograph.

Has there been any other controversial Inkwork autographs, I cannot think of any?

[AceGambit3]

Good chance she doesn't remember signing a sheet of stickers from over a decade ago. Her career hadn't even really started yet. The signatures touted as "real" are big and awesome looking but no way in hell would that have worked for a set of stickers.
It's funny seeing all the replies from the Twitter crowd acting like they know anything about the cards and such though.

[DontToewsMeBro]

I can almost guarantee you that Stana herself has forgotten that she signed a sheet of stickers over a decade ago. It's happened with celebs before.

Originally Posted by galar

Has there been any other controversial Inkwork autographs, I cannot think of any?

Or we have a Katie Cassidy situation where someone from her "team" signed (I know Katie's agent used a stamp) them and they are technically "secs".

No way Inkworks themselves consciously faked the auto.

[GFD18]

Originally Posted by bone

Didn't Jeffrey Dean Morgan do the same thing? I think it was for one of Topps' Walking Dead set.

He did. I don't remember if he back-tracked on the comments though. Anyone know?

[Zeldafanatic15]

Originally Posted by GFD18

He did. I don't remember if he back-tracked on the comments though. Anyone know?

I don't think he ever did, at least that I remember.

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[KeltonB]

Originally Posted by TheDude1138

The other issue, if this is a fake it was most likely committed on her side of the contract with Inkworks. As a company they did not have a problem pulling cards that didn't get signed. If it was late they would do a redemption card. Her card was not a selling point for the release at the time. There is no up side for Inkworks to risk releasing a fake as far as I can see.

Looks like she was on the auto redemption card...doesn't mean the card wasn't live in packs though. I seem to recall releases where the card was listed on the AR card but actually made it into packs, so no redemption.

[glen87]

Originally Posted by KeltonB

Looks like she was on the auto redemption card...doesn't mean the card wasn't live in packs though. I seem to recall releases where the card was listed on the AR card but actually made it into packs, so no redemption.

all of the cards from this set were redemptions - none in packs

[duwal]

I got her autograph from about that time and her 'S' looks like a cursive capital 'A' like below

[nabzy28]

Originally Posted by duwal

I got her autograph from about that time and her 'S' looks like a cursive capital 'A' like below

This seems far more reasonable from that time frame. I'd estimate/guess that she adjusted to that downward stroke to form the "t" as a means to sign quicker, after she gained in popularity as an actress, on her newer signed stuff. Even here, she connects the "ana" portion entirely. I like that you can tell it's from so early in her career that she had to correct her own name on the publicity photo at the bottom.

The major factor is whether this was through the mail or in-person. One of these *should* be hers and the other a secretarial.

[Grid]

Originally Posted by bone

Didn't Jeffrey Dean Morgan do the same thing? I think it was for one of Topps' Walking Dead set.

Originally Posted by GFD18

He did. I don't remember if he back-tracked on the comments though. Anyone know?

Originally Posted by Zeldafanatic15

I don't think he ever did, at least that I remember.

Been awhile, but I thought JDM was just Topps using the wrong stickers on his card. And not someone actually faking his auto.

The rumor mill was, that it was his Walking dead costar, Jeffery Demunn’s stickers they put on his card.

Some people in another forum talked about how Topps had a deal with Demunn for his autos. But they had a falling out over something. I think it was the use of his image on sketch cards, money or something like that. And Topps never paid him for the stickers, and ended up not including him in the sets. Somehow, his stickers ended up on some of Morgans cards. As their signatures do look alike.

https://www.beckett.com/news/is-this...organ-says-no/

[John91C]

I have no idea if these are real but they were obtained TTM. I would say 6 or 7 years ago.

[jfer21]

I got this signed in-person by her and other Castle cast members in 2010 at a Paley Center event, if this helps identification.

[BobCollects]

I hate to revive a long dormant thread but was the mystery of the "fake" Stana Katic auto card ever solved? A quick Google search reveals nothing other than this thread. Unless it has been confirmed 100% fake, I'm going to continue believing my signed card was signed by her.

[Grid]

Originally Posted by BobCollects

I hate to revive a long dormant thread but was the mystery of the "fake" Stana Katic auto card ever solved? A quick Google search reveals nothing other than this thread. Unless it has been confirmed 100% fake, I'm going to continue believing my signed card was signed by her.

You bumped the thread, which I hope means you read it. Everyone is saying how the stickers on those cards, don't look like her signature from the same time period. Or any time period really.

The exemplaries do not match those cards at all. The board members say their signatures of her dont match those cards. And she herself said they were fake.

You can continue to believe whatever you want though.

[BobCollects]

No need to be rude. Of course I read the thread. I participated in it back in 2021. I'd hardly say the posts here confirm the signature isn't hers.

It was suggested she forgot she signed a bunch of sticker sheets more than a decade after the fact, as reportedly happened with Tommy Flanagan and GotG Vol. 2. One person said the sticker auto doesn't match PSA authenticated autos. Another said it is different but has a similar style. Someone pointed out that the stylized "S" that looks like an "A" she supposedly used early in her career wouldn't work when signing small stickers.

Three examples of her autograph were posted, only one of which has a confirmed in-person autograph.

I'm not active on social media so I thought I'd revive this thread in case more information has been revealed on Twitter or elsewhere.

[duwal]

Originally Posted by BobCollects

No need to be rude. Of course I read the thread. I participated in it back in 2021. I'd hardly say the posts here confirm the signature isn't hers.

It was suggested she forgot she signed a bunch of sticker sheets more than a decade after the fact, as reportedly happened with Tommy Flanagan and GotG Vol. 2. One person said the sticker auto doesn't match PSA authenticated autos. Another said it is different but has a similar style. Someone pointed out that the stylized "S" that looks like an "A" she supposedly used early in her career wouldn't work when signing small stickers.

Three examples of her autograph were posted, only one of which has a confirmed in-person autograph.

I'm not active on social media so I thought I'd revive this thread in case more information has been revealed on Twitter or elsewhere.

I see what you're saying but we have the actress herself saying 'that is not my autograph', an in person signature that looks different from the card in question and two other scanned examples that others received that look completely similar to the in-person. All three getting them at various times and the signature not changing. Her autograph didn't change until later during Castle where the S looking more like an 8 but before that time her autograph was real consistent with the examples shown

[BobCollects]

Originally Posted by duwal

I see what you're saying but we have the actress herself saying 'that is not my autograph', an in person signature that looks different from the card in question and two other scanned examples that others received that look completely similar to the in-person. All three getting them at various times and the signature not changing. Her autograph didn't change until later during Castle where the S looking more like an 8 but before that time her autograph was real consistent with the examples shown

You're not wrong and the sticker auto may well be a fake (someone connected to her signed the stickers). The fact that we have the example of Tommy Flanagan saying a pack pulled auto card was fake until he was reminded he had signed stickers for the cards gives me pause.

I'm guessing Stana Katic never addressed the auto card again on Twitter or elsewhere. I remember scrolling through Twitter at the time looking for another response from her. I may have even tweeted her asking for clarification. I can't remember.

Either the sticker autos were signed by someone other than Stana Katic or they were signed by Stana Katic using an adjusted signature to fit the sticker and she forgot she signed them and assumed the picture of the card someone shared on Twitter was a fake. I'm guessing we'll never know 100% for sure unless someone can ask her and explain the situation.

[Grid]

Originally Posted by BobCollects

No need to be rude. Of course I read the thread. I participated in it back in 2021. I'd hardly say the posts here confirm the signature isn't hers.

It was suggested she forgot she signed a bunch of sticker sheets more than a decade after the fact, as reportedly happened with Tommy Flanagan and GotG Vol. 2. One person said the sticker auto doesn't match PSA authenticated autos. Another said it is different but has a similar style. Someone pointed out that the stylized "S" that looks like an "A" she supposedly used early in her career wouldn't work when signing small stickers.

Three examples of her autograph were posted, only one of which has a confirmed in-person autograph.

I'm not active on social media so I thought I'd revive this thread in case more information has been revealed on Twitter or elsewhere.

I reread what I posted, and it didn't seem rude to me. Sorry if you took it that way. You said "I'm going to continue believing my signed card was signed by her". And that was in spite of everything I pointed out.

We are all entitled to our own opinions, so I said you can continue to believe whatever you want.

You say these posts, showing different signatures that were confirmed to be hers not matching the stickers, hardly confirm the stickers weren't signed by her. And yet not a single post showing anything else signed by her, with a signature that looks like those stickers. "different but has a similar style" doesn't mean it could be her auto. It means the person faking her signature, just didn't get it right. They tried to sign like her, for obvious reasons. But failed to do so well enough.

Tommy Flanagan was clearly confused seeing signed cards of his, and not realizing that the stickers he signed were used on cards. That is completely different than Stana seeing a fake signature of hers, and simply stating the signature is fake.

Again, you clearly own one and want to continue thinking its real. And that's fine. I just don't know if anyone is going to produce the smoking gun you need to think otherwise. But for those that have been following this, I think its common knowledge by now that it isn't her signature on those stickers.

[EW Cards]

My two cents - I think she just doesn’t want to be associated with that dreadful movie. She signed those stickers before she hit it big. The stickers are small, and given that she has that big, swooping S at the beginning of her signature, I’d think signing those tiny stickers was constricting. Plus, she got paid very little for signing them, I’m sure, and she legit may not remember an hour of signing at home or wherever over 10 or so years ago.