calculusdork's 2021 Cy Young Predictor - Page 24

calculusdork · 09-20-2021, 07:31 PM

Ray getting squeezed pretty hard, except for one weird strike call like 6 inches off the plate to Margot

hche · 09-20-2021, 08:02 PM

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Ray getting squeezed pretty hard, except for one weird strike call like 6 inches off the plate to Margot

TOLD YOU! JINXED IT! 3 Run Bomb given up. LOL!

rman112 · 09-20-2021, 08:10 PM

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TOLD YOU! JINXED IT! 3 Run Bomb given up. LOL!

dork even tried the anti-jix of Ray giving up 8 in the first yesterday.

This thread is singlehandedly screwing up the race.

rman112 · 09-20-2021, 08:11 PM

My first thought was that the closer this gets, the more it favors Cole because of name recognition (whether that's fair or not).

My second thought was how voters will view Cole and his sticky usage.

rwperu34 · 09-21-2021, 02:48 AM

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dork even tried the anti-jix of Ray giving up 8 in the first yesterday.

This thread is singlehandedly screwing up the race.

Or making it great. Depends on perspective

calculusdork · 09-21-2021, 09:45 AM

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My first thought was that the closer this gets, the more it favors Cole because of name recognition (whether that's fair or not).

My second thought was how voters will view Cole and his sticky usage.

It's going to be fun. Right now, it's actually still pretty tight on paper. If Cole finishes 17-8 and Ray 12-8, with comparable ERA and WHIP ... voters might care.

I still think, all else equal, this will come down to whose team makes the playoffs. It looks like exactly one of the Jays and Yankees will enter.

hche · 09-21-2021, 05:52 PM

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It's going to be fun. Right now, it's actually still pretty tight on paper. If Cole finishes 17-8 and Ray 12-8, with comparable ERA and WHIP ... voters might care.

I still think, all else equal, this will come down to whose team makes the playoffs. It looks like exactly one of the Jays and Yankees will enter.

If it really goes to 17-8 and 12-8, there is a good chance Cole's ERA will drop and Ray's will go up. Then Ray is very unlikely to overcome the 5 W difference and Cole's name recognition.

rman112 · 09-22-2021, 08:01 PM

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Ok ... that's maybe the worst I've seen all year. Not either call strike, but the combination ... inches inside, then inches outside.

Wheeler tonight in back to back at-bats. Runner on 3rd, 1 out, down 1-0 to Baltimore:

Nostalgia · 09-22-2021, 08:56 PM

What the hell has happened to Buehler. That Giants game a few weeks ago was the end of him.

KhalDrogo · 09-22-2021, 09:02 PM

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What the hell has happened to Buehler. That Giants game a few weeks ago was the end of him.

He’s tired. Leaving pitches up, velocity down, off speed stuff isn’t as sharp. Needs some extra days of rest to recuperate.

Nostalgia · 09-22-2021, 09:03 PM

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He’s tired. Leaving pitches up, velocity down, off speed stuff isn’t as sharp. Needs some extra days of rest to recuperate.

Must be. He looks average at best now.

Nostalgia · 09-22-2021, 09:06 PM

Couldnt even get out of the 4th.

ERA approaching 2.60 now.

It was 2.04 on September 4th.

rman112 · 09-22-2021, 09:08 PM

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He’s tired. Leaving pitches up, velocity down, off speed stuff isn’t as sharp. Needs some extra days of rest to recuperate.

Yup. He's looked like this all month. Fastball has lost it's hop. A ton of rolling breaking balls. He's not finishing guys off. They need to just skip his next start.

Nostalgia · 09-22-2021, 09:10 PM

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Yup. He's looked like this all month. Fastball has lost it's hop. A ton of rolling breaking balls. He's not finishing guys off. They need to just skip his next start.

I'm guessing he's actually hurt. At this point he's not winning the Cy Young, so rest him up for the playoffs. Its hard to watch him struggling the way he has.

rman112 · 09-22-2021, 09:13 PM

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I'm guessing he's actually hurt. At this point he's not winning the Cy Young, so rest him up for the playoffs. Its hard to watch him struggling the way he has.

It's possible. Tommy John isn't an infinite cure. Buehler had his in 2015.

rman112 · 09-22-2021, 09:17 PM

James Andrews has said the time frame before TJ tends to begin failing is around 7 years.

Nostalgia · 09-22-2021, 09:29 PM

Mad Max in Colorado tomorrow afternoon.

JWBlue · 09-22-2021, 10:09 PM

Buehler definitely gassed. Looks like they needed Max more than they realized.

calculusdork · 09-22-2021, 11:01 PM

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Wheeler tonight in back to back at-bats. Runner on 3rd, 1 out, down 1-0 to Baltimore:

What is this trash heap

Phillies needing help to beat the O's. You love to see it.

Thor34 · 09-23-2021, 06:26 AM

Cole faces red hot Boston bats tonight in a key game for both teams.
Eovaldi for the Sox.

Nostalgia · 09-23-2021, 08:02 AM

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Cole faces red hot Boston bats tonight in a key game for both teams.
Eovaldi for the Sox.

Tomorrow

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Nostalgia · 09-23-2021, 03:05 PM

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Mad Max in Colorado tomorrow afternoon.

Colorado isn’t fun for anyone

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rman112 · 09-23-2021, 04:04 PM

Corbin Burnes has entered the chat.

rman112 · 09-23-2021, 04:06 PM

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Cole faces red hot Boston bats tonight in a key game for both teams.
Eovaldi for the Sox.

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Tomorrow

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Yup. They moved him up in the rotation.

hche · 09-23-2021, 04:10 PM

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Mad Max in Colorado tomorrow afternoon.

LOL! Jinxed again.

09-20-2021, 07:31 PM	#576
calculusdork Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Nowheresville Posts: 26,683 calculusdork calculusdork	Ray getting squeezed pretty hard, except for one weird strike call like 6 inches off the plate to Margot

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rman112 Banned Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Freedom is Free Again Posts: 40,946	My first thought was that the closer this gets, the more it favors Cole because of name recognition (whether that's fair or not). My second thought was how voters will view Cole and his sticky usage.

09-22-2021, 08:56 PM	#584
Nostalgia Member Join Date: Sep 2020 Location: New York Posts: 2,036	What the hell has happened to Buehler. That Giants game a few weeks ago was the end of him.

09-22-2021, 09:06 PM	#587
Nostalgia Member Join Date: Sep 2020 Location: New York Posts: 2,036	Couldnt even get out of the 4th. ERA approaching 2.60 now. It was 2.04 on September 4th.

09-22-2021, 09:17 PM	#591
rman112 Banned Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Freedom is Free Again Posts: 40,946	James Andrews has said the time frame before TJ tends to begin failing is around 7 years.

09-22-2021, 09:29 PM	#592
Nostalgia Member Join Date: Sep 2020 Location: New York Posts: 2,036	Mad Max in Colorado tomorrow afternoon.

09-22-2021, 10:09 PM	#593
JWBlue Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 9,828	Buehler definitely gassed. Looks like they needed Max more than they realized.

09-23-2021, 06:26 AM	#595
Thor34 Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Maine Posts: 1,470	Cole faces red hot Boston bats tonight in a key game for both teams. Eovaldi for the Sox.

09-23-2021, 04:04 PM	#598
rman112 Banned Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Freedom is Free Again Posts: 40,946	Corbin Burnes has entered the chat.