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Old 09-11-2021, 01:06 AM   #126
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For my money, I count about 35 players who are interesting, then about 15 in this weird bad performance / hasn't done much yet / really too old at for their level guys who could become interesting.

Then we have the back 35 of the CL. Every single pitcher is here....i mean, there are interesting pitching prospects that exist, but they hit none of them (...granted, I would have expected myself to rank Juan Then higher, but he's been real bad this year. Butto is closest for me). There are also 6 Catchers here, which fills the Topps mandate...how many UDFA Role 30 catchers does one need in a CL?!?
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Old 09-11-2021, 11:04 AM   #127
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First bowman prospect non auto cards of Acosta and Perez.
Since Hedbert already had an auto, doesn't recent history mean his chrome won't be a 1st Bowman?
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Old 09-11-2021, 03:01 PM   #128
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Where is Luis Matos in the prospects set? I'm no expert, but I can't remember many times a guy had an auto only 1st one year, then saw his stock skyrocket into the top 100, and no base card the following year. So much for trying to build a PC of him ha.
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Old 09-11-2021, 04:07 PM   #129
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Any idea what the lowest pre sale prices were? Not a big fan of buying in advance but current prices don't seem terrible.
I preordered a hobby case back in early July for 2424.95, so the current price is still pretty similar at 2449.95 as of the time of this post.
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Old 09-11-2021, 06:40 PM   #130
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I preordered a box at $205. Ready for some disappointment
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Old 09-13-2021, 03:51 PM   #131
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I have 17 guys on my short list. I feel like the top 5 is really interchangeable though. Obviously I won’t get specific but 3-5 are gonna be a coin flip depending on what interests you.
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Old 09-13-2021, 03:52 PM   #132
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Also- has anyone confirmed that Houdini is gonna run an auction?
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Old 09-13-2021, 03:53 PM   #133
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I am super excited for this prospect. I think it is FAR superior to 2020, which has already had some nice hits.
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Old 09-13-2021, 04:12 PM   #134
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Yeah I don't care about calling out those Top 5 because they're such a coin flip -- it's literally whoever you like best -- the (3) J15 high offense SS's, Peguero, and L-Rod. And you could even slip others into the back of that if you want.

Edit to add -- it's a top 6 -- I missed Preciado somehow.

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Old 09-13-2021, 04:24 PM   #135
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Also- has anyone confirmed that Houdini is gonna run an auction?
I was bugging him via PM and he replied "on it"! Can't wait!
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Old 09-13-2021, 04:27 PM   #136
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Oh nice thanks!
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Old 09-13-2021, 05:02 PM   #137
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Yeah I don't care about calling out those Top 5 because they're such a coin flip -- it's literally whoever you like best -- the (3) J15 high offense SS's, Peguero, and L-Rod. And you could even slip others into the back of that if you want.

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I am not as excited about L Rod. I think I'm in the minority running into this release. I don't put him in my top 5.

Feels a LITTLE like 2019 chrome with the trio from that release. I hope we don't see the same SP situation here... takes a nice checklist and kinda spikes it in your face with the wax prices. Bloody nose. A real mess.

Pedro Leon will be an interesting one. Proximal to MLB. Track record of success (albeit against debatable competition). Should get a chance to play especially if he's able to play SS well enough in addition to OF where it seems like he's +. Seems to have some pop. May not hit enough. But I could say that about 95% of these guys.
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Old 09-13-2021, 05:13 PM   #138
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I am not as excited about L Rod. I think I'm in the minority running into this release. I don't put him in my top 5.



Feels a LITTLE like 2019 chrome with the trio from that release. I hope we don't see the same SP situation here... takes a nice checklist and kinda spikes it in your face with the wax prices. Bloody nose. A real mess.



Pedro Leon will be an interesting one. Proximal to MLB. Track record of success (albeit against debatable competition). Should get a chance to play especially if he's able to play SS well enough in addition to OF where it seems like he's +. Seems to have some pop. May not hit enough. But I could say that about 95% of these guys.
I agree with L-Rod but I can't just ignore the scouting reports -- I don't evaluate 1st hand. For sure one can still fix their mouth to call him the top guy here.

I'm hook, line & sinker for a guy I'll be taking at #6 in Dave's draft that won't be mentioned that high, except in my sheet. Kinda just fell in love. This is that kinda checklist.

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Old 09-16-2021, 08:44 AM   #139
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I am not as excited about L Rod. I think I'm in the minority running into this release. I don't put him in my top 5.



Feels a LITTLE like 2019 chrome with the trio from that release. I hope we don't see the same SP situation here... takes a nice checklist and kinda spikes it in your face with the wax prices. Bloody nose. A real mess.



Pedro Leon will be an interesting one. Proximal to MLB. Track record of success (albeit against debatable competition). Should get a chance to play especially if he's able to play SS well enough in addition to OF where it seems like he's +. Seems to have some pop. May not hit enough. But I could say that about 95% of these guys.
I'm hoping to catch Leon in person this Monday in Sugar Land.

I know they've made do, but I was a touch surprised the Astros didn't shore up their OF at the deadline, and at the time I wondered if it might signal a Leon arrival this season.
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Old 09-16-2021, 03:13 PM   #140
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Not sure if there's another thread for general bowman chrome talk - but just got my shipping confirmation from blowout for my hobby box
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Old 09-19-2021, 12:34 AM   #141
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Can someone who has done their homework (thank you in advance) share who the top 20 guys to look for are in this product when I open a case or two?
Thanks in advance
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Old 09-19-2021, 08:30 AM   #142
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Can someone who has done their homework (thank you in advance) share who the top 20 guys to look for are in this product when I open a case or two?
Thanks in advance
Take a look at Houdini's multi-case auctions, that will tell you what you need to know. In his 10 caser, 26-27 guys went for $1,000+ -- that is your list.
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Old 09-19-2021, 11:25 PM   #143
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Take a look at Houdini's multi-case auctions, that will tell you what you need to know. In his 10 caser, 26-27 guys went for $1,000+ -- that is your list.
Appreciate that tip, thanks!
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Old 09-21-2021, 08:49 AM   #144
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With 2020 BC being $200 on topps.com last year, $210 w/ free shipping from BO for 2021 seems like a good idea, no?
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Old 09-21-2021, 08:59 AM   #145
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With 2020 BC being $200 on topps.com last year, $210 w/ free shipping from BO for 2021 seems like a good idea, no?
Yeah, can't see Topps being cheaper than BO, and nice to support our hosts.
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Old 09-21-2021, 09:00 AM   #146
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Anyone getting theirs today? Really looking forward to seeing some breaks and how the singles market shakes out with this class.
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Old 09-21-2021, 09:09 AM   #147
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Have heard a few that made it in already and got cracked. Keep hearing good color in HTA, every box at least 1 color and some with 2
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Old 09-21-2021, 10:13 AM   #148
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Anyone getting theirs today? Really looking forward to seeing some breaks and how the singles market shakes out with this class.
Mine says it arrives today. I'll post my hits here if it does.
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Old 09-21-2021, 10:27 AM   #149
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Not sure if people were expecting it or not, but base cards of Hedbert/Yolequi do not have 1st on them.
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Not sure if people were expecting it or not, but base cards of Hedbert/Yolequi do not have 1st on them.
Not expecting necessarily, but was definitely hoping. Wonder if Pequero's auto has it.
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