Rolling 2021 Bowman Chrome Autograph Checklist Thread - Page 5

Jaypers · 09-10-2021, 11:43 AM

First impressions: what it lacks in obvious big names, it makes up for with lots of sleepers. Naturally, many will come out of the gate way more expensive than they should.

Solid "B" overall, I'd say. I'll be hunting several names, but holding the majority of my funds for Draft as usual.

dukefan1210 · 09-10-2021, 12:14 PM

Any idea what the lowest pre sale prices were? Not a big fan of buying in advance but current prices don't seem terrible.

LittleJimmies · 09-10-2021, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by dukefan1210

Any idea what the lowest pre sale prices were? Not a big fan of buying in advance but current prices don't seem terrible.

I think this is the lowest they've been. I got hobby from BO for $250ish back in March.

Brazenways · 09-10-2021, 12:26 PM

Better late then never club:

Gregory Santos
Gilberto Celestino

SDcardguy24 · 09-10-2021, 12:41 PM

So it looks like Anthony Walters is this year's Derian Cruz

Boredlawyer · 09-10-2021, 01:13 PM

This is a good checklist.

Notable exceptions:
Alex De Jesus
Aeverson Arteaga
Jose Ramos
Alexander Ramirez (Mets)* has a base card
All the Indians guys: Valera (we knew wasn't happened), Alexfri Planez, Jhonkensy Noel.

marterburn · 09-10-2021, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Boredlawyer

This is a good checklist.

Notable exceptions:
Alex De Jesus
Aeverson Arteaga
Jose Ramos
Alexander Ramirez (Mets)
All the Indians guys: Valera (we knew wasn't happened), Alexfri Planez, Jhonkensy Noel.

Ramirez is in the base set, FWIW.

Boredlawyer · 09-10-2021, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by marterburn

Ramirez is in the base set, FWIW.

Good call! Even better.

WalterAZ31 · 09-10-2021, 02:13 PM

Wander Franco with yet another Prospect card, lol. and im willing to bet he gets yet another one in 2021 Bowman draft too

reddragonthe · 09-10-2021, 02:18 PM

Add me to the “this is a good effort” list. Upside. Leans young. 75% position players.

I just wish I wasn’t so damn pessimistic on the auto PR games that seem to be more common. I can’t fully appreciate a good list until I know that the top 5 aren’t missing half of the expected volume.

It’s also not full of HUGE names. I agree everyone will have a fan so everything gets a little overpriced initially… but realistically I think it’s a very “middle value” heavy list. And just one guy not on a roster.

cardozo · 09-10-2021, 02:18 PM

First bowman prospect non auto cards of Acosta and Perez.

marterburn · 09-10-2021, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by cardozo

First bowman prospect non auto cards of Acosta and Perez.

Acosta had base in Bowman.

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LakeWorthB · 09-10-2021, 02:35 PM

Can't believe they left Eury Perez off.

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maj78 · 09-10-2021, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by cardozo

First bowman prospect non auto cards of Acosta and Perez.

How so for Acosta - he had a 1st Bowman in regular Bowman, correct?

marterburn · 09-10-2021, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by LakeWorthB

Can't believe they left Eury Perez off.

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He's a complete pop-up. He was a small bonus guy from the 2019 J2 class -- nobody of that ilk is in this, and Topps determines this CL mostly before the season starts.

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cardozo · 09-10-2021, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by maj78

How so for Acosta - he had a 1st Bowman in regular Bowman, correct?

Might be confused, think I meant someone else then.

Remmons22 · 09-10-2021, 02:40 PM

Guess my wallet will be happy that there aren't many NYY prospects in this (1st Bowman that is). Good luck to everyone buying boxes and hunting singles on this.

LittleJimmies · 09-10-2021, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by cardozo

First bowman prospect non auto cards of Acosta and Perez.

Quote:

Originally Posted by marterburn

Acosta had base in Bowman.

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Originally Posted by maj78

How so for Acosta - he had a 1st Bowman in regular Bowman, correct?

VICTOR Acosta.

But yeah, I guess by mentioning only the non-auto part, you may have meant Maximo? Victor has both auto and non in here.

crpav · 09-10-2021, 02:48 PM

Speaking of checklist, number of autos and all can we agree that too many won't consider any of that come to bidding up spots on Houdini's auction? I mean a PSA should be blasted saying with a larger auto checklist and only 10 to 20 cases you won't get as many autos compared to years past where one could expect a decent haul.

reddragonthe · 09-10-2021, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by crpav

Speaking of checklist, number of autos and all can we agree that too many won't consider any of that come to bidding up spots on Houdini's auction? I mean a PSA should be blasted saying with a larger auto checklist and only 10 to 20 cases you won't get as many autos compared to years past where one could expect a decent haul.

No. I'm positive everyone bidding will have a good idea of relative pack odds, hit rates, print run likelihood, and associated risk.

BigSeph · 09-10-2021, 03:58 PM

I count 13 out of what, 86 autos for guys that I might be interested in.

That's better than the past couple of years for sure. Was 9 out of 75 in 2020 BC, 6 out of 68 in 2019 BC, 8 out of 80 in 2018 BC.

The ratio of guys on my shortlist to overall checklist is identical to 2016 BC. Should be a good year!

Boredlawyer · 09-10-2021, 06:31 PM

I count 22 guys on the auto checklist that qualify as "interesting" or better. Mostly guys that are Top 20 J2 signings.

I only count 20 guys that I would consider total filler that I wouldn't spend over $3 on.

I think this product has a TON of potential. And that is coming from the resident pessimist.

For comparison, I felt like 2020 only had about 16-17 "interesting" guys at release.

I am interested in seeing the price spread between HTA and regular. I only pre-ordered HTA. However, Ramirez, Piron, Beltre and Chen are base exclusives and are all interesting prospects.

Higgy04Rob · 09-10-2021, 10:51 PM

Any chance that any of the CPA's are HTA or Mega Box Exclusives and therefore not in Hobby boxes? Not sure how HTA has worked in the past regarding the checklist.

jcfill · 09-10-2021, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Higgy04Rob

Any chance that any of the CPA's are HTA or Mega Box Exclusives and therefore not in Hobby boxes? Not sure how HTA has worked in the past regarding the checklist.

No, it’s all hypothetically the same checklist. Mega box autos get weird but that’s a completely different topic.

Higgy04Rob · 09-10-2021, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by jcfill

No, it’s all hypothetically the same checklist. Mega box autos get weird but that’s a completely different topic.

Thanks. I see now that HTA has exclusive parallels but should be same checklist.

09-10-2021, 11:43 AM	#101
Jaypers Bowman Scout Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: IL Posts: 51,789 cardboardconglomerate	First impressions: what it lacks in obvious big names, it makes up for with lots of sleepers. Naturally, many will come out of the gate way more expensive than they should. Solid "B" overall, I'd say. I'll be hunting several names, but holding the majority of my funds for Draft as usual. __________________ Impervious to baiting.

09-10-2021, 01:13 PM	#106
Boredlawyer Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Posts: 2,227	This is a good checklist. Notable exceptions: Alex De Jesus Aeverson Arteaga Jose Ramos Alexander Ramirez (Mets)* has a base card All the Indians guys: Valera (we knew wasn't happened), Alexfri Planez, Jhonkensy Noel. Last edited by Boredlawyer; 09-10-2021 at 01:22 PM.

09-10-2021, 02:18 PM	#111
cardozo Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 10,217 Djorkaeff6 djorkaeff6	First bowman prospect non auto cards of Acosta and Perez. __________________ Looking to move on……

09-10-2021, 02:40 PM	#117
Remmons22 Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Posts: 2,685 Ryaemmon-2 Remm22	Guess my wallet will be happy that there aren't many NYY prospects in this (1st Bowman that is). Good luck to everyone buying boxes and hunting singles on this. __________________ I can still remember Pete Rose, on the top step of the dugout screaming, “F*** you, Shakespeare.

09-10-2021, 12:14 PM	#102
dukefan1210 Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Gettysburg, PA Posts: 225 demetrius371	Any idea what the lowest pre sale prices were? Not a big fan of buying in advance but current prices don't seem terrible.

09-10-2021, 12:26 PM	#104
Brazenways Member Join Date: Jan 2021 Posts: 397 brazenways	Better late then never club: Gregory Santos Gilberto Celestino

09-10-2021, 12:41 PM	#105
SDcardguy24 Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 9,264	So it looks like Anthony Walters is this year's Derian Cruz

09-10-2021, 02:13 PM	#109
WalterAZ31 Banned Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Glendale, AZ Posts: 8,268	Wander Franco with yet another Prospect card, lol. and im willing to bet he gets yet another one in 2021 Bowman draft too

09-10-2021, 02:18 PM	#110
reddragonthe Member Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 3,359 rddrgnthe	Add me to the “this is a good effort” list. Upside. Leans young. 75% position players. I just wish I wasn’t so damn pessimistic on the auto PR games that seem to be more common. I can’t fully appreciate a good list until I know that the top 5 aren’t missing half of the expected volume. It’s also not full of HUGE names. I agree everyone will have a fan so everything gets a little overpriced initially… but realistically I think it’s a very “middle value” heavy list. And just one guy not on a roster.

09-10-2021, 02:35 PM	#113
LakeWorthB Member Join Date: May 2021 Posts: 66 LakeWorthB2	Can't believe they left Eury Perez off. Sent from my SM-A526U1 using Tapatalk

09-10-2021, 02:48 PM	#119
crpav Member Join Date: Apr 2019 Posts: 3,188	Speaking of checklist, number of autos and all can we agree that too many won't consider any of that come to bidding up spots on Houdini's auction? I mean a PSA should be blasted saying with a larger auto checklist and only 10 to 20 cases you won't get as many autos compared to years past where one could expect a decent haul.

09-10-2021, 03:58 PM	#121
BigSeph Banned Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,772 BigSeph	I count 13 out of what, 86 autos for guys that I might be interested in. That's better than the past couple of years for sure. Was 9 out of 75 in 2020 BC, 6 out of 68 in 2019 BC, 8 out of 80 in 2018 BC. The ratio of guys on my shortlist to overall checklist is identical to 2016 BC. Should be a good year!

09-10-2021, 06:31 PM	#122
Boredlawyer Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Posts: 2,227	I count 22 guys on the auto checklist that qualify as "interesting" or better. Mostly guys that are Top 20 J2 signings. I only count 20 guys that I would consider total filler that I wouldn't spend over $3 on. I think this product has a TON of potential. And that is coming from the resident pessimist. For comparison, I felt like 2020 only had about 16-17 "interesting" guys at release. I am interested in seeing the price spread between HTA and regular. I only pre-ordered HTA. However, Ramirez, Piron, Beltre and Chen are base exclusives and are all interesting prospects.

09-10-2021, 10:51 PM	#123
Higgy04Rob Member Join Date: Oct 2020 Location: Michigan Posts: 67 higgy04	Any chance that any of the CPA's are HTA or Mega Box Exclusives and therefore not in Hobby boxes? Not sure how HTA has worked in the past regarding the checklist.