New online coming - Topps Baseball's Finest

[Boo]

Originally Posted by Glowbug27

Then why limit it to 1 box per customer - period?

So people stop bitching that they can't get product. It will sell out, one way or another. Topps gets the same amount of money (or more with charging shipping for each box) and everyone has a shot at a box.

[LVDan]

Originally Posted by Glowbug27

Then why limit it to 1 box per customer - period?

perceived scarcity to spur the sales at the new price?

[Mattsurewood]

Originally Posted by corockies

Give me one good reason why Topps would limit any print runs going forward. They lost their license with MLB, nothing left to do besides run the presses.

Not sure if you're into basketball at all, but Upper Deck "loaded up" 2009-10 Exquisite Basketball with incredible pieces/patches, they threw everything they had into it. When I get with serious basketball collectors, we still talk about it today. Patches you'd think were automatically "faked" were indeed real. It was insane...their going away present to collectors before Panini took over for good.

It is a far far stretch, but Topps could do something similar (not this product necessarily), either super short printing something (enhancing long term desirability/value), or "loading up a product" with hits on the way out the door, to thank collectors, and to also clean out what they have in inventory..

You never know.

[Glowbug27]

Originally Posted by LVDan

perceived scarcity to spur the sales at the new price?

That is the only reason that makes sense beyond their being a limited print run. No reason why Topps would care about people bitching, they have "lost the license" . Charging shipping is not a profit center for a business. Managing 1000 0 shipments versus 2000 or 3000 shipments is a big difference administratively and from an efficiency and cost perspective.

[rebbrooks]

Originally Posted by JRX

Is a box of the original 94 finest cheaper?

Close to the same price on ebay.

[Cards and 401K]

still live on topps.com. Could be a real limited edition collectors item if Fanatics does not buy/use Finest images in the future !??
Jumped in for a Box WTH...

[corockies]

Originally Posted by Glowbug27

Then why limit it to 1 box per customer - period?

To create perceived scarcity, to get people to buy it at this ridiculous price. Looks like it's already working.

[BrandonJ]

I think there are a few things in play here. These boxes were in high demand for breaks last year which drove the secondary market price up. With the release price being almost 4x, I bet they withhold a lot more of these to sell to distributors/breakers, thus gobbling up a lot of the secondary market profits.

Second, part of the reason prices rose last year was because this was a fairly limited print. If Topps blows that PR up, there won't be the same type of demand and people wouldn't be willing to pay increased prices.

Here is how I think this plays out. Topps trickles this out to the consumer at launch at $200/box. People who enjoyed 2020 will see $200 as solid value (assuming the PR is the same as last year) and the secondary market will take off. This will cause a demand spike and Topps will loop back around to release the remainder to distributors/breakers at >$200 and they will pay it because of the demand. Topps ends up making most of the profits and distributors/breakers will get left holding the bag or making minimal profits, depending on where the price settles.

Just my opinion/thoughts, but I feel like its not crazy...

[Grizzkid12]

In for one box. Set a reminder to check for my tracking number in October.

[Gthompson1978]

I ordered 1 just to put up, who knows what may happen

[JRX]

So still no checklist. Its 5 cards per pack is it 16 packs?

[JRX]

I see beckett says 18 packs, so 90 cards 1 of which is a refractor for 200+. What am I missing here?

[mfw13]

Interest is luke-warm because the 1994 design is far less popular than the 1993 design.

[Cards and 401K]

Unfortunately Alec Bohm is having a subpar year too.
Wonder who is in the 1994 Buybacks

[Stech36]

Originally Posted by Mattsurewood

Not sure if you're into basketball at all, but Upper Deck "loaded up" 2009-10 Exquisite Basketball with incredible pieces/patches, they threw everything they had into it. When I get with serious basketball collectors, we still talk about it today. Patches you'd think were automatically "faked" were indeed real. It was insane...their going away present to collectors before Panini took over for good.

It is a far far stretch, but Topps could do something similar (not this product necessarily), either super short printing something (enhancing long term desirability/value), or "loading up a product" with hits on the way out the door, to thank collectors, and to also clean out what they have in inventory..

You never know.

I definitely doubt that means a short print set.

But definitely could be some loaded up patches and sticker autos the last year

[bbteamw]

Originally Posted by Mattsurewood

Not sure if you're into basketball at all, but Upper Deck "loaded up" 2009-10 Exquisite Basketball with incredible pieces/patches, they threw everything they had into it. When I get with serious basketball collectors, we still talk about it today. Patches you'd think were automatically "faked" were indeed real. It was insane...their going away present to collectors before Panini took over for good.

UD did the same thing when they included the unannounced Exquisite patches in 2010 UD Series 1 baseball.

[beaverman3001]

Just don't see the appeal of it this year, especially at $200+ a box.

[Checkdasneaks]

Will look to pick up some singles of guys I like. That should keep me well below the $200 price point by ALOT

[corockies]

Originally Posted by BrandonJ

I think there are a few things in play here. These boxes were in high demand for breaks last year which drove the secondary market price up. With the release price being almost 4x, I bet they withhold a lot more of these to sell to distributors/breakers, thus gobbling up a lot of the secondary market profits.

Second, part of the reason prices rose last year was because this was a fairly limited print. If Topps blows that PR up, there won't be the same type of demand and people wouldn't be willing to pay increased prices.

Here is how I think this plays out. Topps trickles this out to the consumer at launch at $200/box. People who enjoyed 2020 will see $200 as solid value (assuming the PR is the same as last year) and the secondary market will take off. This will cause a demand spike and Topps will loop back around to release the remainder to distributors/breakers at >$200 and they will pay it because of the demand. Topps ends up making most of the profits and distributors/breakers will get left holding the bag or making minimal profits, depending on where the price settles.

Just my opinion/thoughts, but I feel like its not crazy...

It's 1994 Finest vs. 1993 Finest... there's literally no comparison. No reason for this to be more expensive than last year. The 1993 design is iconic to most, 1994 is whatever.

[metallicalex777]

1993 design easily outdoes the 1994 design which means singles will be stronger in 1993 for players being in both sets. Topps surprised us all having last year be $55 per box. Those were clearly not a $55 per box type of product, and would probably have translated to at least $125-$150. $200 is steep for sure, especially when advertised with 1 parallel per box and zero checklist prior to purchase. If we find these are similar to last year with 2+ parallels and chances of a rare auto, I do see the $200 being more worth it. Classic example of we just won't know until we see the damn checklist along with live examples of the cards.

[beaverman3001]

Originally Posted by metallicalex777

1993 design easily outdoes the 1994 design which means singles will be stronger in 1993 for players being in both sets. Topps surprised us all having last year be $55 per box. Those were clearly not a $55 per box type of product, and would probably have translated to at least $125-$150. $200 is steep for sure, especially when advertised with 1 parallel per box and zero checklist prior to purchase. If we find these are similar to last year with 2+ parallels and chances of a rare auto, I do see the $200 being more worth it. Classic example of we just won't know until we see the damn checklist along with live examples of the cards.

Agreed 100%, no checklist/odds outside of the 1 refractor for this makes it DOA to me.

[The Accountant]

SOLD OUT

[SleepyWill]

Could have been worse, they could have NFT'd these.

[dodgerfanjohn]

Originally Posted by The Accountant

SOLD OUT

Woah!

[Hollywood42]

Despite my lack of enthusiasm for the 94 set, I'd have gotten a box or two if they were priced reasonably. Last year's boxes were a super fun rip. But at $200+ per box, there's just no way. I'm sure it'll sell out still, and I'll be keeping an eye on the bay to dip my toes in on some Twins singles, but just my thoughts