Topps out---Fanatics in - Page 72

val47 · 08-23-2021, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by onenineeightsix

As of this moment, that’s what it looks like. I’m of the mind that between now and 2026 Fanatics acquires brands, or potentially entire companies.

I'm heartbroken bro.....

1000 Sport Zonk · 08-23-2021, 12:43 PM

What are the chances Fanatics will change the size of cards ever so slightly that new storage materials will need to be made and purchased?

ThoseBackPages · 08-23-2021, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by 1000 Sport Zonk

What are the chances Fanatics will change the size of cards ever so slightly that new storage materials will need to be made and purchased?

if THEY make the supplies?

YUGE!

JRX · 08-23-2021, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

if THEY make the supplies?

YUGE!

That would necessitate even more manufacturing setup and wouldn't prevent other companies from making supplies so I think its unlikely. They could make more cards that already come encased which would defeat the need for supplies.

LVDan · 08-23-2021, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 1000 Sport Zonk

What are the chances Fanatics will change the size of cards ever so slightly that new storage materials will need to be made and purchased?

Never thought of that, just a hair bigger makes an entire industry nearly obsolete, at least for a while.
That's some Peter Grant-style management stuff right there.

WallyG71 · 08-23-2021, 12:51 PM

I thought the players union deal starts in 2023 and the MLB deal starts 2026. So they can't make any cards beginning 2023 season?

wood minis · 08-23-2021, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by WallyG71

I thought the players union deal starts in 2023 and the MLB deal starts 2026. So they can't make any cards beginning 2023 season?

this is the biggest sticking point that needs to be resolved somehow. A couple years of players but no MLB logos is a tough sale.

JRX · 08-23-2021, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by wood minis

this is the biggest sticking point that needs to be resolved somehow. A couple years of players but no MLB logos is a tough sale.

Which is why topps actually has some leverage. That mlb license for 3 years is worth maybe more to fanatics than the pa license is to topps if they can still make bowman/hof cards.

1000 Sport Zonk · 08-23-2021, 12:58 PM

What if Fanatics makes the cards corners rounded like playing cards in order to lower the chance of dinged corners? Is that a positive for the hobby?

Pacmeyer · 08-23-2021, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by 1000 Sport Zonk

What are the chances Fanatics will change the size of cards ever so slightly that new storage materials will need to be made and purchased?

You can take away the Topps logo, cheap retail products, move the National to Orlando etc, but if Fanatics tries to do away with standard card dimensions, it may well see a large scale revolt.

It would be the sports card equivalent of New Coke. If it ain't broke...

stevenab87 · 08-23-2021, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by 1000 Sport Zonk

What if Fanatics makes the cards corners rounded like playing cards in order to lower the chance of dinged corners? Is that a positive for the hobby?

If it doesn't corners it's not a baseball card.

Pacmeyer · 08-23-2021, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by 1000 Sport Zonk

What if Fanatics makes the cards corners rounded like playing cards in order to lower the chance of dinged corners? Is that a positive for the hobby?

lol you're going to give people nightmares

JRX · 08-23-2021, 01:08 PM

There's no point to trying to change the card size in a way to take out the third party supply market. Apple and Samsung create new phones every year, there are tons of third party case manufacturers. There's no licensing rights for plastic sheets.

ThoseBackPages · 08-23-2021, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by JRX

There's no point to trying to change the card size in a way to take out the third party supply market. Apple and Samsung create new phones every year, there are tons of third party case manufacturers. There's no licensing rights for plastic sheets.

NOW they do, sure. But not in the beginning

JRX · 08-23-2021, 01:12 PM

But they may change card sizes to distinguish their brand and as a break from the past.

Callmethevreez · 08-23-2021, 01:13 PM

I am giving Topps free advice here...

their "the Real one" slogan needs to be used in full force in 2022 and beyond. If they think/hope to cling on someone and continue to make cards, this is what they need to do. Push that they are the real, true, baseball card company and blast full nostalgia and remind consumers what they will be missing and what Fanatics cannot duplicate.

Then again, might be why I dont work in marketing haha...

JRX · 08-23-2021, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Callmethevreez

I am giving Topps free advice here...

their "the Real one" slogan needs to be used in full force in 2022 and beyond. If they think/hope to cling on someone and continue to make cards, this is what they need to do. Push that they are the real, true, baseball card company and blast full nostalgia and remind consumers what they will be missing and what Fanatics cannot duplicate.

Then again, might be why I dont work in marketing haha...

It won't matter, come 2026 they can't make any licensed baseball cards.

WallyG71 · 08-23-2021, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by JRX

But they may change card sizes to distinguish their brand and as a break from the past.

Cheap fabric, and dim lighting. That's how you move merchandise" -Morty Seinfeld

Pacmeyer · 08-23-2021, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by JRX

But they may change card sizes to distinguish their brand and as a break from the past.

Cards will no longer have the Topps logo. Isn't that a huge break in itself?

1000 Sport Zonk · 08-23-2021, 01:25 PM

"Fanatics is bringing innovation to the sport card collectors market by promising the THICKEST sports cards ever produced"

JRX · 08-23-2021, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by 1000 Sport Zonk

"Fanatics is bringing innovation to the sport card collectors market by promising the THICKEST sports cards ever produced"

Baseball card cubes! Its a card on all sides!

MoreToppsPlease · 08-23-2021, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 1000 Sport Zonk

"Fanatics is bringing innovation to the sport card collectors market by promising the THICKEST sports cards ever produced"

Yes, Fanatics is going to slab and grade their own cards in their own holders thereby cutting out third party graders…

Pacmeyer · 08-23-2021, 01:46 PM

Of all the companies Fanatics should buy it would be Collectors Universe not Topps.

WallyG71 · 08-23-2021, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by wood minis

this is the biggest sticking point that needs to be resolved somehow. A couple years of players but no MLB logos is a tough sale.

I think this new deal is the opposite of what Panini has in place right now they have an MLBPA but no MLB. Topps would still have an MLB but no MLBPA so basically they can't make anything with the players likenesses. I guess they could make big logo cards as much as they want

NYRE2PECT · 08-23-2021, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by stevenab87

If it doesn't corners it's not a baseball card.

Agree, well except for die cuts.

08-23-2021, 12:43 PM	#1777
1000 Sport Zonk Member Join Date: Aug 2020 Posts: 1,368	What are the chances Fanatics will change the size of cards ever so slightly that new storage materials will need to be made and purchased?

08-23-2021, 12:51 PM	#1781
WallyG71 Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Posts: 113	I thought the players union deal starts in 2023 and the MLB deal starts 2026. So they can't make any cards beginning 2023 season?

08-23-2021, 12:58 PM	#1784
1000 Sport Zonk Member Join Date: Aug 2020 Posts: 1,368	What if Fanatics makes the cards corners rounded like playing cards in order to lower the chance of dinged corners? Is that a positive for the hobby?

08-23-2021, 01:08 PM	#1788
JRX Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 15,954	There's no point to trying to change the card size in a way to take out the third party supply market. Apple and Samsung create new phones every year, there are tons of third party case manufacturers. There's no licensing rights for plastic sheets.

08-23-2021, 01:12 PM	#1790
JRX Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 15,954	But they may change card sizes to distinguish their brand and as a break from the past.

08-23-2021, 01:13 PM	#1791
Callmethevreez Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 1,562	I am giving Topps free advice here... their "the Real one" slogan needs to be used in full force in 2022 and beyond. If they think/hope to cling on someone and continue to make cards, this is what they need to do. Push that they are the real, true, baseball card company and blast full nostalgia and remind consumers what they will be missing and what Fanatics cannot duplicate. Then again, might be why I dont work in marketing haha...

08-23-2021, 01:25 PM	#1795
1000 Sport Zonk Member Join Date: Aug 2020 Posts: 1,368	"Fanatics is bringing innovation to the sport card collectors market by promising the THICKEST sports cards ever produced"

08-23-2021, 01:46 PM	#1798
Pacmeyer Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: All over Posts: 4,206	Of all the companies Fanatics should buy it would be Collectors Universe not Topps.