Why do you think so many people are not excited about the Nationals??? - Page 6

auctionjmm · 07-26-2021, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by k13

That's because of the rookie class not market.

All 2020-21 products are dropping in price every week.

Which is exactly what happened in 2018-19. People were already hip to Luka and Trae and those products were hot, relatively speaking, during the season. Once market saturation and summer kicked in, Luka softened substantially and the 18/19 products started to drop every week. National prices were the lowest of the year. A few months later the surge on 18/19 began and some other rookies started to pick up. Over time, we saw SGA, JJJ, Sexton, the Bridges brothers, and Ayton all start to come into their own and the tides rose.

This year is similar, albeit even in a depressed BKB market the 20/21 products are still 5-10x higher than their 18/19 counterparts at this time in 2019. Lamelo Ball and Anthony Edwards are the Luka/Trae of the class, and then a lot of unknowns. What are the odds that a few more players catch some heavy collector interest over the next 2 years? I'd say pretty good. Two years from now we could be sitting here saying "Remember when 20/21 Donruss was ONLY $500 at the National?".

HoustOM · 07-26-2021, 08:18 PM

Man, i am stuck in a room in a quarantine hotel for 2 weeks in an Asian country, and I AM EXCITED about the National!!
DajuanWagner, i think i understand from past posts what kind of National you like. We are very similar in our approach: Motel 6, bin boxes, nice finds, good time with friends...
And honestly, i don't see why you could not have a blast this year. You will have the same ingredients as before + a hell lot of new stuff (innovations, trade nights, influencers...).
Just enjoy the ride man.
I know i will, watching videos on youtube. Remember, 2 years ago the only way we could "feel" the National while not going, was through recap posts on BO. Especially kiki's one.

Harper · 07-26-2021, 09:05 PM

I’m not nearly as excited this year. I think that mostly has to do with product trends and what people are looking to sell. Last national I attended was 60% prizm for basketball. Barely anything short printed from the 90s and early 2000s. Virtually noting mid end you couldn’t buy on eBay. It was a lot of hunting and digging but paying a mark up for the experience. If you are a collector looking for cards not available on the secondary market, your chances of success are slim.

DajuanWagner · 07-27-2021, 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by HoustOM

Man, i am stuck in a room in a quarantine hotel for 2 weeks in an Asian country, and I AM EXCITED about the National!!
DajuanWagner, i think i understand from past posts what kind of National you like. We are very similar in our approach: Motel 6, bin boxes, nice finds, good time with friends...
And honestly, i don't see why you could not have a blast this year. You will have the same ingredients as before + a hell lot of new stuff (innovations, trade nights, influencers...).
Just enjoy the ride man.
I know i will, watching videos on youtube. Remember, 2 years ago the only way we could "feel" the National while not going, was through recap posts on BO. Especially kiki's one.

Yea, those were the days. I am sure Kiki will post another amazing recap. Looking forward to seeing it and all the other recaps. I am really looking forward to the Chicago show in 2 years. Things should be back to normal by then.

I called Motel 6 and they said it was going to be $507.00 for 3 days. Didn't see that coming.......

salas1991 · 07-27-2021, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by DajuanWagner

Yea, those were the days. I am sure Kiki will post another amazing recap. Looking forward to seeing it and all the other recaps. I am really looking forward to the Chicago show in 2 years. Things should be back to normal by then.

I called Motel 6 and they said it was going to be $507.00 for 3 days. Didn't see that coming.......

Ah, nothing like Lolla happening the same weekend to cause those room rates to soar...

Divino · 07-27-2021, 11:47 AM

I used to be so excited to go to the National and spend around $1,000 on wax each year, coming home with 12-15 boxes.

No wax for me, as I refuse to pay over MSRP for retail, and I'm not paying $1,000 1 hobby box.

Timsterino · 07-27-2021, 11:55 AM

I am excited still! Tomorrow I arrive in Chicago! Woohoo!

DajuanWagner · 07-27-2021, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Timsterino

I am excited still! Tomorrow I arrive in Chicago! Woohoo!

Give us a recap when you get home. Interested to know your takes on the show....

bradley9999 · 07-28-2021, 06:17 AM

Headed to the airport now. Excitement level of waking up at 3:30 AM 0, excitement level of landing in Chicago 99....opening day lets go!

Grid · 07-28-2021, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by salas1991

Ah, nothing like Lolla happening the same weekend to cause those room rates to soar...

The National is in Rosemont IL. I highkly doubt anyone going to Lolla is staying in Rosemont, which is 30 miles and a good hour away from grant Park in Chicago, where Lolla is being held.

Room rates around Rosemont are so high, because so many people are coming to the National.

It is going to be packed in there!

lisu · 07-28-2021, 09:47 AM

I'm not going this year, and I'm sad to miss everyone, but I can also say that I really hate crowds, and this year, there's going to be so many people that I would not enjoy it.

Grid · 07-28-2021, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by lisu

I'm not going this year, and I'm sad to miss everyone, but I can also say that I really hate crowds, and this year, there's going to be so many people that I would not enjoy it.

I hear ya!

I was at the Chicago Bears 100th anniversary event in the same convention center, back in 2019.

They had the same 10,000 people a day that are expected at this years National. And it took over an hour to get inside! Lines pouring in from every direction as well. It was crazy.

People were waiting along River Road all the way back to Denny's, which is a mile away.

You can see some of the crowds in the below. And the Bears booked the entire building, both floors. And people were still ontop of each other. I cant image what it will look like for this show. I guess ill find out in a few hours!

https://www.journal-topics.com/galle...am-centennial/

lisu · 07-28-2021, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Grid

I hear ya!

I was at the Chicago Bears 100th anniversary event in the same convention center, back in 2019.

They had the same 10,000 people a day that are expected at this years National. And it took over an hour to get inside! Lines pouring in from every direction as well. It was crazy.

People were waiting along River Road all the way back to Denny's, which is a mile away.

You can see some of the crowds in the below. And the Bears booked the entire building, both floors. And people were still ontop of each other. I cant image what it will look like for this show. I guess ill find out in a few hours!

https://www.journal-topics.com/galle...am-centennial/

Wow, I hope the show is like that. It's great for hobby! The card shows around the Bay Area have been crazy busy too.

purejd86p · 07-28-2021, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by auctionjmm

I'll answer the question. Most people are excited for the National. You aren't. Is that a good enough response?

Bingo! Guy is just miserable!

DajuanWagner · 07-28-2021, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by purejd86p

Bingo! Guy is just miserable!

He sounds pretty miserable......

chezball · 07-28-2021, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DajuanWagner

Thanks for stalking me. Stalking people must be your ulterior motive. If you don't feel the need to answer the question, just move along. If you feel the need to stalk people, then, by all means, continue doing you.........

There's a lot of jilted lovers on this site.

katho · 07-28-2021, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by auctionjmm

I was just about to say... they sold out of VIP, then offered a 5-day early entry pass, sold out of that too, and now all that's left is general admission. I would expect lines around the block and the largest attended National of all time. Plenty of excitement this year!

This is exactly why Im not going...You wont even get to look at the tables

katho · 07-28-2021, 07:01 PM

Its going to be a Covid Super Spreader event

Pacmeyer · 07-29-2021, 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by auctionjmm

I was just about to say... they sold out of VIP, then offered a 5-day early entry pass, sold out of that too, and now all that's left is general admission. I would expect lines around the block and the largest attended National of all time. Plenty of excitement this year!

P.S. It's not "the Nationals". This isn't a gymnastics competition or swim meet. There is ONE National and it is called The National. No "s" at the end. Pet peeve of mine.

There were long lines if you waited until show opening to pick up your credentials.

Show floor on Wednesday was not packed at all. I've been to the E3 expo back in the day and that was a real jungle. No comparison with what I saw today. Weekend will obviously pick up.

I arrived about 3:15 but didn't see any line for the VIP early admittance. I even asked people working security at the entrance. Around 3:31 they just started letting those with VIP badges in so there wasn't much of a wait at all.

DajuanWagner · 07-29-2021, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by katho

Its going to be a Covid Super Spreader event

Is it????

fulltritty · 07-29-2021, 03:09 PM

I wish my platinum pass worked in the long food lines.

chezball · 07-29-2021, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by katho

Its going to be a Covid Super Spreader event

07-26-2021, 08:18 PM	#127
HoustOM Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Posts: 290	Man, i am stuck in a room in a quarantine hotel for 2 weeks in an Asian country, and I AM EXCITED about the National!! DajuanWagner, i think i understand from past posts what kind of National you like. We are very similar in our approach: Motel 6, bin boxes, nice finds, good time with friends... And honestly, i don't see why you could not have a blast this year. You will have the same ingredients as before + a hell lot of new stuff (innovations, trade nights, influencers...). Just enjoy the ride man. I know i will, watching videos on youtube. Remember, 2 years ago the only way we could "feel" the National while not going, was through recap posts on BO. Especially kiki's one. __________________ Collecting inserts from the mid 90s and cards older than 1990

07-26-2021, 09:05 PM	#128
Harper Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Dunlap, IL, USA Posts: 2,618 mmil3768 mdmille2	I’m not nearly as excited this year. I think that mostly has to do with product trends and what people are looking to sell. Last national I attended was 60% prizm for basketball. Barely anything short printed from the 90s and early 2000s. Virtually noting mid end you couldn’t buy on eBay. It was a lot of hunting and digging but paying a mark up for the experience. If you are a collector looking for cards not available on the secondary market, your chances of success are slim. __________________ Check out my Ron Harper collection and wantlist! https://www.flickr.com/photos/144848597@N06/albums http://ronharper.weebly.com/

07-28-2021, 06:17 AM	#134
bradley9999 Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 432	Headed to the airport now. Excitement level of waking up at 3:30 AM 0, excitement level of landing in Chicago 99....opening day lets go! __________________ Looking for 2020 Inception Dustin May Auto 1/1 Black Card

07-27-2021, 11:47 AM	#131
Divino Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Racine, WI Posts: 7,638 divino	I used to be so excited to go to the National and spend around $1,000 on wax each year, coming home with 12-15 boxes. No wax for me, as I refuse to pay over MSRP for retail, and I'm not paying $1,000 1 hobby box.

07-27-2021, 11:55 AM	#132
Timsterino Member Join Date: Apr 2019 Location: South Florida Posts: 2,316 Timsterino	I am excited still! Tomorrow I arrive in Chicago! Woohoo!

07-28-2021, 09:47 AM	#136
lisu Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Bay Area, California Posts: 4,919 lisu lisu	I'm not going this year, and I'm sad to miss everyone, but I can also say that I really hate crowds, and this year, there's going to be so many people that I would not enjoy it.

07-28-2021, 07:01 PM	#143
katho Member Join Date: Mar 2020 Posts: 511	Its going to be a Covid Super Spreader event

07-29-2021, 03:09 PM	#146
fulltritty Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: King George, VA Posts: 74,762	I wish my platinum pass worked in the long food lines.