Luka Doncic Questionable Autograph Analysis

[dengbang]

Just buy what you like. I can only go by how I've seen him sign in person and how his in-person autos look. I've never seen him sign live with the loopy auto's.

[kingofsnake]

Originally Posted by bsnsports0605

Why not? Nothing wrong with hustling for extra cash

[al3xmac10]

Luka 2020-21 Panini sticker autos, for your reference:

[RedMike]

Originally Posted by al3xmac10

Luka 2020-21 Panini sticker autos, for your reference:

I mean... all those people who said.. he can't fit it on to a sticker....

if we were the prosecution we would say "and I rest my case your honor..."

[jmcca170]

So yea, this is what I figured would happen when he started signing cards again. It’s 100% certain in my mind now that he didn’t sign a lot of his rookie cards, which is a damn shame.

I don’t know how Panini is getting away with just letting things be, especially on super high end cards that have Lulu signatures. Best thing they can (and should) do is offer a 1-2 year window where if you believe you have a non-Luka signed card, send it back to them no-questions-asked and they’ll do a full replacement with his real signature.


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[theLUCKYshow]

Just because he is signing his sticker autos in a different way 2 years later in no way proves someone else signed his old sticker autos.

He has already shown in past products he can sign in both a scribbly Lili and clean Lulu in the same product yet some seem to brush that off.


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[theLUCKYshow]

And remember, this spread right here pretty much shows you all the different Luka autos.

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[brettmik59]

Originally Posted by RedMike

I mean... all those people who said.. he can't fit it on to a sticker....

if we were the prosecution we would say "and I rest my case your honor..."

Yeah this is enough evidence for me. Not even close to the girly perfect loopy lulu.

[Asian62150]

Question for the "Luka Signed Everything" camp:

Has anyone who knows nothing about this issue seen the "scribble" and "Lulu" and immediately said "oh yeah, that's obviously the same person signing."

Every single person I have shown the "scribble" and "Lulu" to immediately says no way is that the same signature.

Unfortunately, it is hard to prove a negative. Outside of Luka announcing he didn't sign everything or that he purposely was messing with everyone by signing some stuff "Lulu," I think the Luka Signed Everything camp is just going to keep believing what they want to believe. And that's fine. This is an online forum. I enjoy the discussion. LSE ppl, please don't think I'm hating on you.

If I'm honest with myself, I would definitely hope Luka signed everything if I was holding a Prizm, NT, or other non-scribble auto, given how much money is involved/invested these days.

[dengbang]

Out of curiosity, besides Luka's gifts to the president, do we have any other items/evidence of Luka signed items that most likely required him to take time to sign?

[theLUCKYshow]

Originally Posted by dengbang

Out of curiosity, besides Luka's gifts to the president, do we have any other items/evidence of Luka signed items that most likely required him to take time to sign?

Gift to Drazen Petrovic Museum translated "to Drazens museum." The jersey is game-worn from the Euroleague Final Four. People such as myself who believe Luka signed all of his autos view it as a clean lulu. Judge for yourself.

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[Asian62150]

Originally Posted by theLUCKYshow

Gift to Drazen Petrovic Museum translated "to Drazens museum." The jersey is game-worn from the Euroleague Final Four. OP believes this is a scribbly auto while people such as myself who believe Luka signed all of his autos view it as a clean lulu. Judge for yourself.

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This one looks similar to some of his early sticker autos on the Euro cards.

But it definitely does not look like the loopy and stout "LuLu" from his '18 Prizm sticker autos. Can we agree there?

[theLUCKYshow]

Originally Posted by Asian62150

This one looks similar to some of his early sticker autos on the Euro cards.



But it definitely does not look like the loopy and stout "LuLu" from his '18 Prizm sticker autos. Can we agree there?

For me it looks somewhere in between the 2 sticker autos you mentioned.

Can we agree that his new sticker autos look nothing like his previous ones though?

[Asian62150]

Originally Posted by theLUCKYshow

For me it looks somewhere in between the 2 sticker autos you mentioned.

Can we agree that his new sticker autos look nothing like his previous ones though?

Sure. All 3 of those look different.

But you think Luka went from the tall skinny Euro to the short and fat Prizm sticker then back to the compact Elite sticker?

[theLUCKYshow]

Originally Posted by Asian62150

Sure. All 3 of those look different.



But you think Luka went from the tall skinny Euro to the short and fat Prizm sticker then back to the compact Elite sticker?

Yes. He was, what, 17 when he signed the UD stickers? And 19 when he signed his rc stickers? Now he's 22. Autos can change and you can clearly see that comparing Luka's unquestioned UD stickers and 20-21Elite stickers.

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[Asian62150]

Originally Posted by theLUCKYshow

Yes. He was, what, 17 when he signed the UD stickers? And 19 when he signed his rc stickers? Now he's 22. Autos can change and you can clearly see that comparing Luka's unquestioned UD stickers and 20-21Elite stickers.

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This is what I mean by the "Luka Signed Everything" camp believing what fits their narrative. Autos change (yes), but do they change the way Luka's has allegedly changed? (No) Autographs go from neat to messy.

Messy, super neat and loopy, then super messy is not a natural progression, IMO.

Again, LSE ppl will believe what they want to believe. I'm not trying to rain on the parade of anyone that has a NT or Prizm card or any other loopy auto card. The prices are what they are and unless Luka comes out and says he didn't sign those, they will definitely hold their value.

LUCKY, you have incredible Luka stuff and I enjoy your videos as a fellow Doncician. I just know that I'm only buying the scribble.

[theLUCKYshow]

Originally Posted by Asian62150

This is what I mean by the "Luka Signed Everything" camp believing what fits their narrative. Autos change (yes), but do they change the way Luka's has allegedly changed? (No) Autographs go from neat to messy.



Messy, super neat and loopy, then super messy is not a natural progression, IMO.



Again, LSE ppl will believe what they want to believe. I'm not trying to rain on the parade of anyone that has a NT or Prizm card or any other loopy auto card. The prices are what they are and unless Luka comes out and says he didn't sign those, they will definitely hold their value.



LUCKY, you have incredible Luka stuff and I enjoy your videos as a fellow Doncician. I just know that I'm only buying the scribble.

To each his or her own.

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[theLUCKYshow]

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[jmcca170]

Not a mom sig




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[21Pittsburgh58]

Originally Posted by jmcca170

Not a mom sig




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Ooh, that matches up with this juuuuust fine:

[sethc1020]

Are we still on this? Seriously? I challenge anyone to sit down and sign their name 1000 times consecutively and rapidly as if you were an athlete sitting down and signing cards (which is probably not what they want to be doing all day) and show us that each one of the 1000 are exactly the same. Can't be done. The fact is that when you sign your name over & over & over again in one sitting you get tired, bored and rushed trying to get through them and during that time your auto will change. On the other hand if you only had to sign 1 or 2 items you will more likely take more time and care with your signature. Its not rocket science.

As for the conspiracy theorists yes it Could be possible that someone else signed his cards just as much as another player that has signed cards. And it has happened in the past (Dak situation comes to mind) but unless his mom admits to signing them its all just a conspiracy theory.

[ZionCards]

CONCLUSION: people who think the perfect LULU was actually signed by Luka are in denial.

[jmcca170]

Originally Posted by sethc1020

Are we still on this? Seriously? I challenge anyone to sit down and sign their name 1000 times consecutively and rapidly as if you were an athlete sitting down and signing cards (which is probably not what they want to be doing all day) and show us that each one of the 1000 are exactly the same. Can't be done. The fact is that when you sign your name over & over & over again in one sitting you get tired, bored and rushed trying to get through them and during that time your auto will change. On the other hand if you only had to sign 1 or 2 items you will more likely take more time and care with your signature. Its not rocket science.

As for the conspiracy theorists yes it Could be possible that someone else signed his cards just as much as another player that has signed cards. And it has happened in the past (Dak situation comes to mind) but unless his mom admits to signing them its all just a conspiracy theory.

So you’re saying that the perfect loopy Lulu ( that we have seen exactly zero of in his panini/fanatics autographs and all cards signed so far this year) is what happens when Luka is tired and doesn’t give af anymore ? Bless your heart


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[gameissued]

Saying signing 1000 times or whatever does not help. It's already been mentioned before many many times. We get it. BUT yes.. we're still on it because he started signing for Panini again after taking a year off. And his sticker auto's are very vertical (vs loopy lulu). New evidence that totally goes against everyone saying he can't sign that way in such a small space. So yeh, it was quiet for a long time but continues because there's new additional relevant info now.

Originally Posted by sethc1020

Are we still on this? Seriously? I challenge anyone to sit down and sign their name 1000 times consecutively and rapidly as if you were an athlete sitting down and signing cards (which is probably not what they want to be doing all day) and show us that each one of the 1000 are exactly the same. Can't be done. The fact is that when you sign your name over & over & over again in one sitting you get tired, bored and rushed trying to get through them and during that time your auto will change. On the other hand if you only had to sign 1 or 2 items you will more likely take more time and care with your signature. Its not rocket science.

As for the conspiracy theorists yes it Could be possible that someone else signed his cards just as much as another player that has signed cards. And it has happened in the past (Dak situation comes to mind) but unless his mom admits to signing them its all just a conspiracy theory.

[sethc1020]

Originally Posted by jmcca170

So you’re saying that the perfect loopy Lulu ( that we have seen exactly zero of in his panini/fanatics autographs and all cards signed so far this year) is what happens when Luka is tired and doesn’t give af anymore ? Bless your heart


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Nope not what I was saying. Could it be possible that as a very young kid signing his very first NBA RC cards maybe just maybe he took a little bit more time and effort with and was excited about? As compared to others down the road? Im not a Luka auto conspiracy theorist but I know that I sign a lot of papers each day and can tell you that my signature at the beginning is nowhere near my signature at the end. In the beginning its much much nicer than at the end. To me this is a much more logical conclusion than his mom signing his autos for him. But I could be totally wrong just my take on it. Chances are we will never know for sure one way or the other and without proof its all just an innuendo.