Topps Project 2020 is the worst product since 1991 Fleer

[kevbojones]

Look on the bright side, only 720 more cards to go.

[Randallk34]

Snoop Dog card is awful, another card where the artist is more into themselves then the player or card

[Shinjoy]

Originally Posted by aeast317

The only way it wouldn't make the poster odd is if he does a few more cards in a similar style to this, a subset of sorts. But yeah if the rest of his cards are back to what we expect, definitely an odd choice in the middle.

It's vaguely similar to the Dock Ellis. But, safer and less chaotic and less exciting. I would've preferred to see the cartoon bird trying to twist its body away from the ball.

[ThoseBackPages]

Ermsy should tell topps to hold off on releasing a third bird card this month (or however long its been, all this years projects run together)

Blew The Great went what, two months between cards?

[Randallk34]

Originally Posted by Shinjoy

It's vaguely similar to the Dock Ellis. But, safer and less chaotic and less exciting. I would've preferred to see the cartoon bird trying to twist its body away from the ball.

It's not similar at all

[Oliroller]

Originally Posted by Shinjoy

The Snoop Dogg Soto is sacrilicious. Coming into the set, I never would've thought Snoop Dogg would win a day in which Ermsy and Rochester both released cards.

Shin and I actually agree...Snoop wins the day for me as well.

[ThoseBackPages]

lets hope next week is better

[Oliroller]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

lets hope next week is better

Lol...like a broken record

[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by Oliroller

Lol...like a broken record

hey, cant get much worse lol

[VinnyH]

Originally Posted by aeast317

HOLY CRAP I didn't even notice those details. This might be Snoop's best card yet!

I've been buying Snoop from the beginning and yes, this is his first nice looking card.
Vinny

[StonedCollector]

i think we will see some more of the same from ermsy.
remember the announcement that he was getting a non sports set?

im thinking its going to be a pokemon set. disappointing, but it is what it is.

eta
nevermind, im stoned, topps doesn't make pokemon cards.

[Timsterino]

Originally Posted by VinnyH

I've been buying Snoop from the beginning and yes, this is his first nice looking card.
Vinny

We all realize that it’s not actually Snoop making his cards right?

[Timsterino]

Originally Posted by StonedCollector

i think we will see some more of the same from ermsy.
remember the announcement that he was getting a non sports set?

im thinking its going to be a pokemon set. disappointing, but it is what it is.

Topps doesn’t have the license for Pokémon.

[kevbojones]

Reviewing the "years" represented in this set there are a few that really stand out from a body of work standpoint.

1961--seems to translate well to this concept (Ichiro is my favorite)
1965- large representative and cohesive sample. (Mays is tops for me)
1969- working well for the most part (lost p2020 Reggie too)
1981- extremely strong body of work too. That hat makes all the difference
1986- Strong set thus far (personal fave from my childhood. Kershaw is nice)
1990- Opportunities for great use of color
1999- Might Be the Best looking year thus far

Two years where the artists have missed the mark, but have the opportunity to do some amazing cards are...

1956--hoping Jacob Rochester and Chuck Styles give us a card from this year
1964- the two cards released from this year seem to work well (Ichiro and Robert). Might be a missed opportunity for aesthetically pleasing cards

[aeast317]

Originally Posted by VinnyH

I've been buying Snoop from the beginning and yes, this is his first nice looking card.
Vinny

I'm sad because the Murray is the only Snoop I didn't buy. The Soto might be his BEST card, but I think he had a few other nice looking ones---I like the Betts and the Ichiro a lot, granted part of that is the reference material.

[davebo]

The discussion about these cards on the last two pages is the reason why this project great. It's because everyone sees each card differently. Exactly what art is supposed to be.

[omega145]

Not a fan of Snoop or whoever artist is doing his work but I actually like the Soto as the best card of the day....that is until I see that dumb corner image of Snoop as Lincoln. That ruins the entire card for me.

The Deion Rochester is pretty cool. The artwork is good and at least its paying tribute to Deion as a multi sport athlete. Are those white strips on his nose? Makes him look like he snorted some coke.

I could see the Ermsy Randy being very popular amongst baseball fans who are also Pokemon collectors but definitely strange to see him not sticking to his usual art style.

The Boggs Craola is what it is, haven't been a fan of the set or his artwork at all. I would think to stick with his set he would've used an action shot like the others.

[aeast317]

Originally Posted by Timsterino

We all realize that it’s not actually Snoop making his cards right?

Yes, but I think it is pretty split on whether that matters or not. He might be providing art direction like New York Nico is, or he may be hardly involved at all. I think it'd be cool if like Toy Tokyo for example his cards listed the guest artists.

I'm surprised nobody has accused DJ Skee of this yet. If you listen to his podcasts, he talks about the cards as if he makes them with a team (says "we" a lot). It isn't a big deal. Guys like him and Snoop are brands at this point. Maybe Skee gets more of a pass from people who accuse Snoop because there's no question that Skee is clearly VERY involved and taking the Project VERY seroiusly.

[niklday]

Originally Posted by Timsterino

All opinions are valid. Even the ones you don’t like.

Yeah, this is nonsense. Everyone is entitled to their opinions, but not all opinions are created equal. If my opinion is that aliens are controlling all chickens with a long term plan to take over Guatemala, I'm entitled to hold that opinion but I don't think it's an opinion that should carry any weight whatsoever, because at the very least the basis for the opinion is highly questionable. If your opinion on the player choice in this set is entirely based on the fact that you don't think the set should exist, that opinion is far less useful (and frankly, interesting) to me than the opinion of people who have some sort of vision for what the set should look like and whose opinions are not colored (dominated?) by their resentment that the set even exists. Same thing if you're determined in advance to hate almost every card.

Of course, you're entitled to your own opinion on this.

[aeast317]

Originally Posted by davebo

The discussion about these cards on the last two pages is the reason why this project great. It's because everyone sees each card differently. Exactly what art is supposed to be.

Absolutely agree, and it's good to be reminded of this every 30 pages or so

[Timsterino]

Originally Posted by aeast317

Yes, but I think it is pretty split on whether that matters or not. He might be providing art direction like New York Nico is, or he may be hardly involved at all. I think it'd be cool if like Toy Tokyo for example his cards listed the guest artists.

I'm surprised nobody has accused DJ Skee of this yet. If you listen to his podcasts, he talks about the cards as if he makes them with a team (says "we" a lot). It isn't a big deal. Guys like him and Snoop are brands at this point. Maybe Skee gets more of a pass from people who accuse Snoop because there's no question that Skee is clearly VERY involved and taking the Project VERY seroiusly.

I had the same issue with Don C using Shirt King Fade to create his Jackie Robinson card last year and not giving him the proper credit on the card. If you as an artist are going to use someone else’s talent to create your vision, you need to give them the proper credit. If that’s the case with DJ Skee, he deserves the same grief. Credit your people properly!

[Timsterino]

Originally Posted by niklday

Yeah, this is nonsense. Everyone is entitled to their opinions, but not all opinions are created equal. If my opinion is that aliens are controlling all chickens with a long term plan to take over Guatemala, I'm entitled to hold that opinion but I don't think it's an opinion that should carry any weight whatsoever, because at the very least the basis for the opinion is highly questionable. If your opinion on the player choice in this set is entirely based on the fact that you don't think the set should exist, that opinion is far less useful (and frankly, interesting) to me than the opinion of people who have some sort of vision for what the set should look like and whose opinions are not colored (dominated?) by their resentment that the set even exists. Same thing if you're determined in advance to hate almost every card.

Of course, you're entitled to your own opinion on this.

Did I say all opinions are created equal? If anything your reply is nonsense. All opinions are valid because it’s THEIR opinion. That’s how it works. An opinion doesn’t necessarily equate with fact. It’s an opinion.

[Silas Barnaby]

Originally Posted by aeast317

I'm surprised nobody has accused DJ Skee of this yet.

Could be racism.

[msarg29]

Originally Posted by Oliroller

He is. And he definitely is for what he meant to the entire sport. He is no Jose Canseco though.

I think Frank Robinson should have multiple cards for what he meant to the sport and his accomplishments. As a Dodger fan, I would probably never buy one. I remember as a kid reading about him taunting Steve Howe for his cocaine problem. Even as an 11 year old it rubbed me the wrong way.

[JRX]

Originally Posted by niklday

Yeah, this is nonsense. Everyone is entitled to their opinions, but not all opinions are created equal. If my opinion is that aliens are controlling all chickens with a long term plan to take over Guatemala, I'm entitled to hold that opinion but I don't think it's an opinion that should carry any weight whatsoever, because at the very least the basis for the opinion is highly questionable. If your opinion on the player choice in this set is entirely based on the fact that you don't think the set should exist, that opinion is far less useful (and frankly, interesting) to me than the opinion of people who have some sort of vision for what the set should look like and whose opinions are not colored (dominated?) by their resentment that the set even exists. Same thing if you're determined in advance to hate almost every card.

Of course, you're entitled to your own opinion on this.

Whoa there, people aren't ready to know the truth about the chickens in Guatemala.