Topps Project 2020 is the worst product since 1991 Fleer

[80s Kid]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

someone needs to email the contributors that just because someone is in the HOF, it does not make them hobby relevant

Pardee can get away with it because of his art. He struck early with current popular players and it will be interesting to see print runs when he goes back to current players.

I definitely wouldn’t have expected multiple cards for a player with auto cards going for under $20. But then I wouldn’t have expected so many managers either.

Maybe for Project Next, Topps can try to spread out the artists to represent each baseball city. Or do Soccer or wrestling, or something.

[Randallk34]

Prince Fish?

[niklday]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

someone needs to email the contributors that just because someone is in the HOF, it does not make them hobby relevant

Just out of curiosity, what exactly do you want Project 70 to be? Just because you're a HOFer apparently doesn't mean you should be in the set. Assuming you're talking about Ryan or Sandberg, it's not like those guys are questionable HOFers like Bill Mazeroski (Sandberg is pretty much the average HoF second baseman by WAR and Ryan probably should have been unanimous) or played so long ago that nobody really remembers them.

Should it be each artist doing 5 cards each of Tatis, Acuna, Soto, and Trout because they're hobby relevant? Maybe add in a couple of versions each of Mantle, Jeter, Griffey, and Jackie Robinson for variety? Is there a list of 20 players that every artist should be doing? I cannot tell whether you actually have a vision of what you think Project 70 should be and you're disappointed that its not that or you just resent the fact that Project 70 even exists.

[ThoseBackPages]

i would like to see Star Wars and GPK in next years Project

[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by niklday

Just out of curiosity, what exactly do you want Project 70 to be? Just because you're a HOFer apparently doesn't mean you should be in the set. Assuming you're talking about Ryan or Sandberg, it's not like those guys are questionable HOFers like Bill Mazeroski (Sandberg is pretty much the average HoF second baseman by WAR and Ryan probably should have been unanimous) or played so long ago that nobody really remembers them.

Should it be each artist doing 5 cards each of Tatis, Acuna, Soto, and Trout because they're hobby relevant? Maybe add in a couple of versions each of Mantle, Jeter, Griffey, and Jackie Robinson for variety? Is there a list of 20 players that every artist should be doing? I cannot tell whether you actually have a vision of what you think Project 70 should be and you're disappointed that its not that or you just resent the fact that Project 70 even exists.

150% the bolded.

there was no need for a Project this year, pure greed

also, time to drop the price. these should no longer be $20 a piece. Move to regular card stock and stop wasting the plastic.

[80s Kid]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

150% the bolded.

there was no need for a Project this year, pure greed

Star Wars would be fun for Project Next if Disney let the artists do crazy stuff.

Also, Rollie Fingers is in the HOF and who I thought you meant.

[Flip024]

Probably in for the 4-pack today with the Trout being the only one that doesn't fit with one of the sets I'm collecting. All good cards today though

[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by 80s Kid

Star Wars would be fun for Project Next if Disney let the artists do crazy stuff.

Also, Rollie Fingers is in the HOF and who I thought you meant.

i know he is lol

[Oliroller]

When does Distortedd drop? Her player set is at least interesting. You may not like all of them, but it has some fresh faces in it.

[WyoDeacon2K6]

I'll bite, what's with the references to Riley Pint? I know who he is (I actually scored a game he was pitching in rookie ball), but what is his relevance to the hobby (other than as a once highly touted pitching prospect who throws really hard)?

[1000 Sport Zonk]

Originally Posted by WyoDeacon2K6

I'll bite, what's with the references to Riley Pint? I know who he is (I actually scored a game he was pitching in rookie ball), but what is his relevance to the hobby (other than as a once highly touted pitching prospect who throws really hard)?

There is a thread thats been popular lately here on BO Forums, centered around on a guy trying to buy a 1/1 Pint card and the folly of it all.

Its purely a BO Forum meme.

[TacBacJack]

Originally Posted by WyoDeacon2K6

I'll bite, what's with the references to Riley Pint? I know who he is (I actually scored a game he was pitching in rookie ball), but what is his relevance to the hobby (other than as a once highly touted pitching prospect who throws really hard)?

Hazarding a guess, but he just retired, so his cards are going to be rare? Seems like a stretch but I'd only heard of him because he suddenly retired.

[WyoDeacon2K6]

Originally Posted by 1000 Sport Zonk

There is a thread thats been popular lately here on BO Forums, centered around on a guy trying to buy a 1/1 Pint card and the folly of it all.

Its purely a BO Forum meme.

Thanks. I'm not active on many other threads, or on the forum as a whole.

I realize jokes are not funny once they are explained, but thanks for explaining anyway.

[ThoseBackPages]

Pint Cliff Notes

BO Member makes a thread complaining that hes wanted to buy a BGS 9.5 Leaf 1/1 of Pint, but the seller wants $75 for it. hes been trying to buy it from him for three years.

the seller does not budge

the thread is made

the card is pulled down from eBay

im not sure where it is now lol

[Timsterino]

Originally Posted by aeast317

I feel like this is maybe the 3rd time I've made this reply to this same comment, but the contributors should be able to pick whoever they want. Doesn't matter if they have hobby relevancy or not. Heck, when they pick hobby darlings they just get railed for picking repeat players or comments like "Does anyone actually think Tatis is good lmao"

Yeah I mean because who cares if they actually sell cards. Am I right? lol

[Timsterino]

Originally Posted by 80s Kid

Pardee can get away with it because of his art. He struck early with current popular players and it will be interesting to see print runs when he goes back to current players.

I definitely wouldn’t have expected multiple cards for a player with auto cards going for under $20. But then I wouldn’t have expected so many managers either.

Maybe for Project Next, Topps can try to spread out the artists to represent each baseball city. Or do Soccer or wrestling, or something.

Pardee’s print runs have absolutely dropped with his recent player selections. Like it or not there is a correlation.

[Silas Barnaby]

Originally Posted by Timsterino

Pardee’s print runs have absolutely dropped with his recent player selections. Like it or not there is a correlation.

But is there a causation?

[Timsterino]

Originally Posted by Silas Barnaby

But is there a causation?

There may be as well. The drop in print runs through player selection though isn’t only a Pardee phenomenon.

[1000 Sport Zonk]

I never would have suggested Keith Shore make a Peter Alonso card, but the result was my favorite card of P70 (so far). So for me it turns out player selection doesnt need to matter at all.

[Shinjoy]

Originally Posted by Timsterino

There may be as well. The drop in print runs through player selection though isn’t only a Pardee phenomenon.

Willie Mays had a lower PR than Ke'Bryan Hayes and Randy Johnson, so it's not completely the player. Pardee starting with Acuna and Trout has made his set really top-heavy, but they generated high PRs and got people interested in the set from the beginning.

For me, for the set to be collectible, there's a balance between collectible players and good art. Eck Eck, Randy Johnson's bird attack, and the Rollie Fingers mustache cards are low-hanging fruit, but taken together they should look good and make sense. Willie Mays is a more widely collected player, but it's my least favorite Pardee card and the concept is a stretch.

The set can survive a few Eck Ecks, as long as the overall set has balance. He could've done 20 Acunas just by selecting whichever player is hot that month, but then collectors would've complained that the set is repetitive.

[80s Kid]

Originally Posted by Timsterino

Yeah I mean because who cares if they actually sell cards. Am I right? lol

Topps should really care more, lol.

[Silas Barnaby]

Originally Posted by 1000 Sport Zonk

I never would have suggested Keith Shore make a Peter Alonso card, but the result was my favorite card of P70 (so far). So for me it turns out player selection doesnt need to matter at all.

Between Shore and NY Nico, I have two more Alonso cards than I ever thought I would own.

[omega145]

Originally Posted by Randallk34

Prince Fish?

One of his nicknames: Mike Trout has been called Prince Fish, God’s Gift, and King Fish 2.0 in reference to the Angels’ first King Fish, Tim Salmon.

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

there was no need for a Project this year, pure greed

also, time to drop the price. these should no longer be $20 a piece. Move to regular card stock and stop wasting the plastic.

Not sure why you are here then because it seems like nothing would actually satisfy you if you are already bitter about them making a Project70. While I agree on the aspect of another Project being made AND $20 is a steep asking price (especially for 1000+ cards in the set), you just come across as a grumpy and bitter old man repeating the same thing over and over again.

[Timsterino]

Originally Posted by omega145

Not sure why you are here then because it seems like nothing would actually satisfy you if you are already bitter about them making a Project70. While I agree on the aspect of another Project being made AND $20 is a steep asking price (especially for 1000+ cards in the set), you just come across as a grumpy and bitter old man repeating the same thing over and over again.

He is here like everyone else, to give his opinion. Those opinions are not always favorable or match yours but it’s his right to give them.

[Silas Barnaby]

Originally Posted by Shinjoy

For me, for the set to be collectible, there's a balance between collectible players and good art.

The set can survive a few Eck Ecks, as long as the overall set has balance.

I agree with all of this.

Fucci is really pushing the boundary of that balance but I'm still ride or die.