First to win an NBA title? Trae or Luka? - Page 3

rustywest · 06-08-2021, 12:36 PM

I don't bet but if you had a hammer to my head I'd say Luka.

Trae nasty too though...

TSonn · 06-08-2021, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattsurewood

Trae and Luka, for me, are "must watch" talents when they are on..Curry is the only other player where I stop and watch the game anytime he is playing.

What Young did to the Knicks cannot be underestimated, he has cemented himself at a young age as a leader and winner, and he did it in one of the toughest places to play the villain. He thrives and feeds off of opposing crowds, something we didn't see last year with the bubble games.
He finished off the Knicks, and took a bow on the way out...great stuff.

Agree! It was awesome to see Trae take on the "villian" role. Like a shadow-side of Curry/Nash. An underdog turned heel for a series. I don't think he necessary had that game plan going into the series but fed off the Madison Square Garden crowd and did a quick re-write on the spot. Loved it. Very Jordan-esque, not in terms of talent/style but in terms of doing what was necessary to get himself pumped up for a series.

I also think he's using the all star snub this year as motivation in these playoffs. I'm sure the entire NYK series he was thinking - y'all picked THIS guy before me!?

Randallk34 · 06-08-2021, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by netmasters

Luka is the better player.

Trae has the better chance and it's not because he has the better supporting cast right now although that does help. Trae plays in Atlanta which is a much more desirable location for a superstar than Dallas. If for instance Dame is serious about his rap career he would love to go to Atlanta which is the defacto home of rap right now. Atlanta is full of celebrities and for that reason is more attractive.

LOL you're really reaching here

mfw13 · 06-08-2021, 12:51 PM

Whomever forces a move from the franchise that drafted them first in order to join a super-team.

jweeks80 · 06-08-2021, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Randallk34

LOL you're really reaching here

Says a guy from Long Island that has probably never set foot in the A. There's alot going on culturally in Atlanta that is attractive to potential free agents. Add in a young exciting teams and there's potential there. It ain't LA, but its sure as hell ahead of most NBA markets.

Spacemanspif · 06-08-2021, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by jweeks80

Says a guy from Long Island that has probably never set foot in the A. There's alot going on culturally in Atlanta that is attractive to potential free agents. Add in a young exciting teams and there's potential there. It ain't LA, but its sure as hell ahead of most NBA markets.

regardless, the point is market doesn't matter unless it's NY or LA, or the players' hometown. the "Lillard will go to ATL because of rap" comment was ludacris.

Randallk34 · 06-08-2021, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jweeks80

Says a guy from Long Island that has probably never set foot in the A. There's alot going on culturally in Atlanta that is attractive to potential free agents. Add in a young exciting teams and there's potential there. It ain't LA, but its sure as hell ahead of most NBA markets.

Whatever helps you sleep at night. Wake me up when the big f.a. signs with ATL, i won't be holding my breath. Do i need to set foot in Atl to know the next big f.a. isnt going there? I'm sure it's a beautiful place, f.a.'s arent going there though. I'm talking stars to, not an Oladipo. When someone like Kawai opts out and goes to Atl, then and only then will i believe any of this.

FinSoonerGMG · 06-08-2021, 01:40 PM

Trade Luka and Trae now and ATL is a Finals team and Dallas is in the lottery....

omega145 · 06-08-2021, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by jweeks80

Says a guy from Long Island that has probably never set foot in the A. There's alot going on culturally in Atlanta that is attractive to potential free agents. Add in a young exciting teams and there's potential there. It ain't LA, but its sure as hell ahead of most NBA markets.

Damian Lillard is one of the best point guards in the game but what sense does it make to have a backcourt with Trae Young and Damian Lillard? I actually don't doubt that Atlanta could lure a free agent there especially with Trae's recent performances but it would probably be a wing or big.

Born/raised in LI and have been to ATL so not sure if my opinion matters at all.

Mattsurewood · 06-08-2021, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Spacemanspif

regardless, the point is market doesn't matter unless it's NY or LA, or the players' hometown. the "Lillard will go to ATL because of rap" comment was ludacris.

I see what you did there

Randallk34 · 06-08-2021, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Randallk34

Let's pump the breaks on the Hawks to. They could lose 4 straight here and no one will think anything of it

Boom, 1 down 3 to go

Jopeal · 06-08-2021, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Spacemanspif

regardless, the point is market doesn't matter unless it's NY or LA, or the players' hometown. the "Lillard will go to ATL because of rap" comment was ludacris.

I have a hunch that San Fran & Miami are not equal to Cleveland & Milwaukee in the eyes of superstar FAs.

Luka may very well end up heading for greener pastures than Dallas in 2022.

codered · 06-08-2021, 10:03 PM

It doesn’t seem like too long ago the narrative was superstars were going to push to sign with Houston, Dallas and Miami because of no state income tax. Shouldn’t that help Dallas sign free agents? Is that not a thing anymore? Pardon my Canadian ignorance

gomiamigo · 06-08-2021, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Dame

Cap space.

You can go over by a billion to sign your own players. Most owners aren't willing to do that, that's why the 76ers had to do a sign and trade to Miami just to get JRich back for Butler instead of keeping him like Cuban would have.

Bunch of new guys will probably win one before Luka wins his.

Trae gotta stop putting up -11 after -11 in the playoffs to get a sniff of a title.

Bravosfan · 06-08-2021, 10:10 PM

The Hawks have never signed a superstar FA. I think it's 50/50 that he stays in Atlanta longterm. There is no way to project who ends up playing with who in a few years. Would anyone have guessed Harden, Durant, and Kyrie would be on the same team three years ago?

RogerGodahell · 06-08-2021, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Jopeal

I have a hunch that San Fran & Miami are not equal to Cleveland & Milwaukee in the eyes of superstar FAs.

Luka may very well end up heading for greener pastures than Dallas in 2022.

No chance of that happening. He's eligible for a 5 year $201 million max extension after this past season because of the Derrick Rose rule. He's locked up in Dallas until 2027.

When asked if he'll sign the extension he said "i think you already know the answer".

Jopeal · 06-08-2021, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by RogerGodahell

No chance of that happening. He's eligible for a 5 year $201 million max extension after this past season because of the Derrick Rose rule. He's locked up in Dallas until 2027.

When asked if he'll sign the extension he said "i think you already know the answer".

Respect if he stays. I'm skeptical he'll ever be surrounded by the right talent in Dallas though.

atoaz12 · 06-09-2021, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Bravosfan

The Hawks have never signed a superstar FA. I think it's 50/50 that he stays in Atlanta longterm. There is no way to project who ends up playing with who in a few years. Would anyone have guessed Harden, Durant, and Kyrie would be on the same team three years ago?

Dikembe is the closest thing

PokeyAndG · 06-17-2021, 01:29 AM

I feel people not giving Trae enough credit. Beating the sixers will get people's attention though.

jweeks80 · 06-18-2021, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Randallk34

Whatever helps you sleep at night. Wake me up when the big f.a. signs with ATL, i won't be holding my breath. Do i need to set foot in Atl to know the next big f.a. isnt going there? I'm sure it's a beautiful place, f.a.'s arent going there though. I'm talking stars to, not an Oladipo. When someone like Kawai opts out and goes to Atl, then and only then will i believe any of this.

Watch tonight and you'll see the culture.

jweeks80 · 06-18-2021, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Bravosfan

The Hawks have never signed a superstar FA. I think it's 50/50 that he stays in Atlanta longterm. There is no way to project who ends up playing with who in a few years. Would anyone have guessed Harden, Durant, and Kyrie would be on the same team three years ago?

Hating from vinings up in here. This is different. We don't have liberty media as the hawks owner. Big big diffy.

PokeyAndG · 06-23-2021, 10:03 PM

so we're just gonna ignore the fact that Trae and the Hawks are 3 wins away from the Finals?

rifleman69 · 06-23-2021, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by PokeyAndG

so we're just gonna ignore the fact that Trae and the Hawks are 3 wins away from the Finals?

Still have to win 7 more. This wasn't a who gets to the finals first...

Dnic · 06-23-2021, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by PokeyAndG

so we're just gonna ignore the fact that Trae and the Hawks are 3 wins away from the Finals?

Even if they somehow get past the Bucks they won't win against either the Suns or the Clippers sorry.

PokeyAndG · 06-23-2021, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Dnic

Even if they somehow get past the Bucks they won't win against either the Suns or the Clippers sorry.

don't know man, this team doesn't look elite on paper, but can pull off some upsets.

View Poll Results: Who will win title first?
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Trae	48	28.24%
neither	36	21.18%
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06-08-2021, 12:36 PM	#51
rustywest Member Join Date: Jun 2018 Posts: 2,699	I don't bet but if you had a hammer to my head I'd say Luka. Trae nasty too though... Last edited by rustywest; 06-08-2021 at 12:39 PM.

06-23-2021, 10:03 PM	#72
PokeyAndG Member Join Date: Apr 2020 Posts: 1,085	so we're just gonna ignore the fact that Trae and the Hawks are 3 wins away from the Finals? Last edited by PokeyAndG; 06-23-2021 at 10:06 PM.

06-08-2021, 12:51 PM	#54
mfw13 Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 18,030	Whomever forces a move from the franchise that drafted them first in order to join a super-team.

06-08-2021, 01:40 PM	#58
FinSoonerGMG Member Join Date: May 2021 Location: Carrollton TX Posts: 353	Trade Luka and Trae now and ATL is a Finals team and Dallas is in the lottery....

06-08-2021, 10:03 PM	#63
codered Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Saskatoon, SK Posts: 4,026 codered	It doesn’t seem like too long ago the narrative was superstars were going to push to sign with Houston, Dallas and Miami because of no state income tax. Shouldn’t that help Dallas sign free agents? Is that not a thing anymore? Pardon my Canadian ignorance

06-08-2021, 10:10 PM	#65
Bravosfan Member Join Date: May 2021 Location: Smyrna, GA Posts: 9	The Hawks have never signed a superstar FA. I think it's 50/50 that he stays in Atlanta longterm. There is no way to project who ends up playing with who in a few years. Would anyone have guessed Harden, Durant, and Kyrie would be on the same team three years ago?

06-17-2021, 01:29 AM	#69
PokeyAndG Member Join Date: Apr 2020 Posts: 1,085	I feel people not giving Trae enough credit. Beating the sixers will get people's attention though.