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Old 05-19-2021, 01:12 PM   #1776
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Love this card bc it shows him both as a pitcher AND batter. 99% of the other cards it's either or...
Nice card but I'm not a fan of horizontals. Plus technically he's not shown actually pitching on that card he's just standing there holding a glove. Would look a 100x better if he were in a pitching motion.
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Old 05-19-2021, 01:19 PM   #1777
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They sure do. The basketball/football hype-chasing money didn't really come into baseball until Tatis last year. He saw a huge surge in RD prices that no other player was seeing and the same surge was happening in stuff that baseball collectors traditionally hated(Waves, Green Refractors). If you looked at the posting history of people posting their big RD parallel and Wave buys, it almost a guarantee that they had all Basketball/Football forum posting history prior to the season.

Basketball/Football collectors don't know that RDs are traditionally hated and in their world they love Chrome and shiny rainbow colors. There's no equivalent of popular non-Chrome in the modern era in those sports.
I understand the timeline, I was very active here when the whole RD thing happened. I don't think it had anything to do with basketball/football money. But something tells me you're locked into your theory so I think I'll just let you have it.

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Old 05-19-2021, 02:08 PM   #1778
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First wave of the Class 1s has started to roll in. Until I can be shown otherwise, this is my go-to pitching & hitting RC for Ohtani. Am very happy to have landed a red.



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Old 05-19-2021, 02:17 PM   #1779
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I understand the timeline, I was very active here when the whole RD thing happened. I don't think it had anything to do with basketball/football money. But something tells me you're locked into your theory so I think I'll just let you have it.
Make a mental note every time you see someone in this thread posting about the RDs they're buying for $15-20 a pop. Or a Chrome Update RD PSA 10 for $200 . If you do see a post about those at all, check the post history

My god the 3 HR streak card in PSA 10 is $80 lolol. And the RD PSA 10 is more than the US1 PSA 10! Unbelievable. I know these are because of the super low PSA 10 pops, but there's no chance anyone buying either of those is mainly a baseball collector

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Old 05-19-2021, 03:44 PM   #1780
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This is madness. Are we in a saturated market for young players to go bonkers over? I feel like we all sort of have this deer-in-the-headlights feeling because where do we put our money: Ohtani, Vlad, Acuna, Tatis, Soto?

Bichette always right there, ready to possibly make a move. Now Kelenic?

Seriously. How are Ohtani's and Vladdy's threads not getting 4 pages a day? It's incredible what those two are doing, what's going to happen when those other guys start doing what they're going to do?

It's like paralysis by analysis. Where do I put my money? They're all undervalued right now.

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Do you feel all of these players are under valued at current prices? I assume you amassed most of these players pre covid at very low prices. If you started collecting after covid or even starting this year would you be happy to pay current prices on all of these players?
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Old 05-19-2021, 05:02 PM   #1781
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in the video, the crack of the bat came after the swing...
it was like lightning, then thunder....

also, this was shown in the telecast just now:

JJ Watt's comment mentioned here....

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Old 05-19-2021, 05:39 PM   #1782
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First wave of the Class 1s has started to roll in. Until I can be shown otherwise, this is my go-to pitching & hitting RC for Ohtani. Am very happy to have landed a red.



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Old 05-19-2021, 06:11 PM   #1783
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Pitching AND hitting again tonight.

There was a fear that he might not hit today, since Angels are short on the field players.
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Old 05-19-2021, 07:18 PM   #1784
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Is he hurt, or gassed?
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Old 05-19-2021, 07:20 PM   #1785
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while throwing a bunch of off speed stuff to franmil is a mystery, i think the low velo is intentional. start em off slow.
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Old 05-19-2021, 07:20 PM   #1786
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Is he hurt, or gassed?
You don’t lose 10mph on your fastball because ur tired. I hope this isn’t the end of the Ohtani train. It’s too much fun to watch.
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Old 05-19-2021, 07:21 PM   #1787
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First wave of the Class 1s has started to roll in. Until I can be shown otherwise, this is my go-to pitching & hitting RC for Ohtani. Am very happy to have landed a red.



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Nicely done, Arthur. Looks great!
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Old 05-19-2021, 07:23 PM   #1788
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You don’t lose 10mph on your fastball because ur tired. I hope this isn’t the end of the Ohtani train. It’s too much fun to watch.
He has not really been sharp in any start. I would go with lower velo for better command (although it didn't help tonight).
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He has not really been sharp in any start. I would go with lower velo for better command (although it didn't help tonight).

His cutter is tracking at 83 mph tonight. Four seamer at 88, though I did see one at 92. That seem like control issue? Lots of high pitches too. Now the Indians can’t hit a change up so, strategy?!

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His cutter is tracking at 83 mph tonight. Four seamer at 88, though I did see one at 92. That seem like control issue? Lots of high pitches too. Now the Indians can’t hit a change up so, strategy?!

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He's guiding the ball, IMHO.

In previous starts he was trying to throw 110 every pitch and the ball was going everywhere....this looks like too much effort to throw strikes. He's thinking too much - maybe it's his arm, maybe it's strikes, maybe it's trying to be too good. Dunno.

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He's guiding the ball, IMHO.
this. we would have noticed if there was something going on with his body.
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Old 05-19-2021, 07:46 PM   #1792
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He's guiding the ball, IMHO.

In previous starts he was trying to throw 110 every pitch and the ball was going everywhere....this looks like too much effort to throw strikes. He's thinking too much - maybe it's his arm, maybe it's strikes, maybe it's trying to be too good. Dunno.
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Easy, controlled, and on the broadcast they said it is his first pitching in 8 days (7 full days off).

So far, so good!
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Easy, controlled, and on the broadcast they said it is his first pitching in 8 days (7 full days off).

So far, so good!
What am I missing with the 5 post of panic? Solid so far.
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What am I missing with the 5 post of panic? Solid so far.
Just talking with the peeps - no panic here hombre.
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Old 05-19-2021, 07:57 PM   #1796
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Wouldn't be concerned about the low velo. Hard to have consistent energy level with such irregular days of rest. If there were something wrong, he would have been pulled by now. No one gets the attention Ohtani does in terms of mechanics.
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Old 05-19-2021, 08:04 PM   #1797
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110.1 on the lineout. Hit it on the screws.
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Old 05-19-2021, 08:05 PM   #1798
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Shohei hit it too hard! I thought for sure that was going for an RBI hit
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Old 05-19-2021, 08:10 PM   #1799
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And now he's pumping fastballs in at 95 MPH. He must've just be conserving his energy for the second time through the lineup
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