PSA Complete Through Date (CTD) Tracker

[CaptSpaulding]

Originally Posted by mnvikingstwins

Because captain 0 feedback knows the hobby inside and out

What's your malfunction, sport?

[Vintagecollect]

Originally Posted by CaptSpaulding

Wait...That's a joke, right? It is no secret...Ask any of the major auction houses...maybe any of the auction houses and ask them if they submit cards for consignors. If any of them tells you they do not send in consignor's cards PM me your paypal email addy and I will send you a huge gift.

People really should not post when they really have no idea the way the hobby works.

Next?

Next ask them if they ever sell their OWN cards? Of course they do, and they send those for submission as well as their personal collection. What you think they have some moral high ground? "oh hey, this card is for my PC, so I will just submit it for a longer turn time as well as higher cost".

SHEESH

I DID hear, all that prefereantial treatment was going/has gone out the window. Few heads rolled, blah blah blah. I haven't reached out to my contacts there yet, as aside from the Jackie auto, I got nuttin to send/say to them.

[xtnimot]

Originally Posted by xtnimot

May 15th

Walk-Through 10 May 2021
Super Express 29 Apr 2021
Express 7 Mar 2021
Regular 16 Feb 2021
Economy 9 Sept 2020
Reholder 5 Oct 2020
Collectors Club Vouchers 14 Sept 2020
Value - Ultra Modern 7 Sept 2020
Value - Modern 9 Aug 2020
Value - Vintage 22 Sept 2020
Value - TCG 21 Aug 2020
Quarterly Specials 9 Aug 2020

May 18th

Walk-Through 12 May 2021
Super Express 2 May 2021
Express 7 Mar 2021
Regular 16 Feb 2021
Economy 9 Sept 2020
Reholder 5 Oct 2020
Collectors Club Vouchers 14 Sept 2020
Value - Ultra Modern 7 Sept 2020
Value - Modern 9 Aug 2020
Value - Vintage 22 Sept 2020
Value - TCG 21 Aug 2020
Quarterly Specials 9 Aug 2020

[TheHeel]

I have not been tracking lately but has there been any movement in quarterly special or modern bulk?

[Redbirdgrad]

Movement? Hardly.

I used to do this daily but grew tired of it after a while, so it's missing a couple weeks of data points. Not hard to spot the trend though.....

[discodanman45]

Originally Posted by TheHeel

I have not been tracking lately but has there been any movement in quarterly special or modern bulk?

Looks like they are 100% focusing on economy and CC vouchers. They are pushing November on those right now. Think everything else below that level is not even being touched right now besides bulk submissions from PSA dealers.

[ArmyDC]

Originally Posted by discodanman45

Looks like they are 100% focusing on economy and CC vouchers. They are pushing November on those right now. Think everything else below that level is not even being touched right now besides bulk submissions from PSA dealers.

My CC vouchers from Oct 5 have been stuck in QA 2 for 3 weeks..

The value submissions are a #@#@#@#@ show and have made no progress since the shutdown.


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[discodanman45]

Originally Posted by ArmyDC

My CC vouchers from Oct 5 have been stuck in QA 2 for 3 weeks..

The value submissions are a #@#@#@#@ show and have made no progress since the shutdown.


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I was in QA2 for less than a day. I think people that are in QA2 for a long time may have had a card/cards that had issues with slabs or mislabeled. These will need to go back to slabbing and take longer.

It is obvious that they are tackling economy right now and bulk/quarterly specials won't be moving for a long time. Wouldn't surprise me that they won't touch much bulk until economy is completely caught up.

[BreakingMania]

Value vintage hasn’t moved in weeks

[SupermanBrandon]

Originally Posted by BreakingMania

Value vintage hasn’t moved in weeks

To be fair...nothing in value/economy/etc has really moved in weeks.

[ArmyDC]

Originally Posted by discodanman45

I was in QA2 for less than a day. I think people that are in QA2 for a long time may have had a card/cards that had issues with slabs or mislabeled. These will need to go back to slabbing and take longer.

It is obvious that they are tackling economy right now and bulk/quarterly specials won't be moving for a long time. Wouldn't surprise me that they won't touch much bulk until economy is completely caught up.

Yea I saw the trend was QA2 for 1-2 days, and was worried the extra time meant something was wrong.. oof

[discodanman45]

Originally Posted by SupermanBrandon

To be fair...nothing in value/economy/etc has really moved in weeks.

I wouldn't trust that tracker they put up. Economy is rolling right now and far ahead of those dates. I think they are trying to only grade economy right now because of the following reason. With less shipments being received they can put those workers that typically check in packages in the shipping department. Economy orders put more strain on shipping because they are smaller orders. Much easier to send back one 200 card order to someone instead of 20 ten card orders. With the lull of orders coming in, prioritizing economy makes complete sense right now.

If PSA can catch back up on economy then it will be easier to open things back up. The bulk will be an issue for the next two years and unless they can double or triple their grading capacity, those cards will continue to sit. PSA is grading at double the rate that they did in 2020. They are at 120,000 collectibles a week now and they should grade over double what they did in 2020. However, 6 million collectibles a year won't be enough. They need to be at 200,000 collectibles a week to even consider bringing back economy again. To bring back bulk they need to be 240,000 a week.

It is crazy to think that if they double their grading output from last year that it won't be enough to overcome their backlog even with suspending 99% of submissions. It would also be stupid for PSA to start grading 15 million collectibles a year. Is there demand for that much? Maybe this year, but what about in 2024? It is hard to predict future demand and you can't just grow a company five times just because of demand during a pandemic.

[TheTCGenius]

Originally Posted by SupermanBrandon

To be fair...nothing in value/economy/etc has really moved in weeks.

I believe that they are a lot further a long that the CTD in economy. That date is getting held back due to vouchers. I have had an order sit in QA2 for 15 business days because it contained a voucher that had expired by now but so it needed to be fixed by accounting department. I imagine, most people who used vouchers have seen them expire while in queue.

I also had an order entered in late October fly through the process and currently sits at QA2.

[TheTCGenius]

Originally Posted by SupermanBrandon

To be fair...nothing in value/economy/etc has really moved in weeks.

I believe that they are a lot further along that the CTD in economy. That date is getting held back due to vouchers. I have had an order sit in QA2 for 15 business days because it contained a voucher that had expired by now but so it needed to be fixed by accounting department. I imagine, most people who used vouchers have seen them expire while in queue.

I also had an order entered in late October fly through the process and currently sits at QA2.

[discodanman45]

Originally Posted by ArmyDC

Yea I saw the trend was QA2 for 1-2 days, and was worried the extra time meant something was wrong.. oof

I think it just shows that QA is doing their job. I have never seen PSA go backwards on their tracker. So you really haven't been stuck on QA2 for 2 to 3 weeks, but your order was probably sent back to assembly to fix the mistakes and it needs to go through the process again.

[Redbirdgrad]

Here's economy, just for discussion purposes.

[discodanman45]

Originally Posted by TheTCGenius

I believe that they are a lot further along that the CTD in economy. That date is getting held back due to vouchers. I have had an order sit in QA2 for 15 business days because it contained a voucher that had expired by now but so it needed to be fixed by accounting department. I imagine, most people who used vouchers have seen them expire while in queue.

I also had an order entered in late October fly through the process and currently sits at QA2.

I am absolutely terrified to use my vouchers because of this. The last time I used my vouchers they ignored them and charged me the $20 a card for economy, since that is what it was equivalent to. No big deal at $300. They fixed it in a few weeks.

However, vouchers right show up at the $300 fee. If they make a mistake this time I will be charged 15*$300 = $4500. I know they would fix it, but that would really get me upset!

[discodanman45]

Originally Posted by Redbirdgrad

Here's economy, just for discussion purposes.

Attachment 507270

Believing that tracker they post for data is suspect at best. It is easy to see that they are in October for the majority of economy orders from what people have been posting here. Is there anyone still waiting on an economy order that was entered in September here?

[Springerj23]

You guys getting upset that stuff isn't moving. Those economy orders that have been sitting in the corner since September/October should be getting processed before everything else, other than what is currently open. A majority of these have CC vouchers involved and these people got absolutely crapped on. Paying upfront and then waiting 9 months, for what was a 20 day turnaround when they were sent in. FIFO, and its going to take some time now. Next should be the Regular and Express orders that were sent in before the March 1st price hike, and the April 1st shutdown after the price hike. These service levels were running around 4-5 weeks door to door up until February. People paying 50 and 75 dollars a card that sent stuff in February shouldn't still be waiting on these.

The bulk is what is. People knew when this stuff was sent in that a year was possible. $10/card, should be at the back of the line. If you sent stuff in that was way more valuable than that submission level. That's on you...

[discodanman45]

Originally Posted by Springerj23

You guys getting upset that stuff isn't moving. Those economy orders that have been sitting in the corner since September/October should be getting processed before everything else, other than what is currently open. A majority of these have CC vouchers involved and these people got absolutely crapped on. Paying upfront and then waiting 9 months, for what was a 20 day turnaround when they were sent in. FIFO, and its going to take some time now. Next should be the Regular and Express orders that were sent in before the March 1st price hike, and the April 1st shutdown after the price hike. These service levels were running around 4-5 weeks door to door up until February. People paying 50 and 75 dollars a card that sent stuff in February shouldn't still be waiting on these.

The bulk is what is. People knew when this stuff was sent in that a year was possible. $10/card, should be at the back of the line. If you sent stuff in that was way more valuable than that submission level. That's on you...

Completely agree that all economy should be completed before bulk. Especially the CC vouchers. Glad they are doing this. I have 6 economy cards coming and have over 200 bulk sitting there from last year. Get economy caught up.

[CheapThief]

Originally Posted by Springerj23

You guys getting upset that stuff isn't moving. Those economy orders that have been sitting in the corner since September/October should be getting processed before everything else, other than what is currently open. A majority of these have CC vouchers involved and these people got absolutely crapped on. Paying upfront and then waiting 9 months, for what was a 20 day turnaround when they were sent in. FIFO, and its going to take some time now. Next should be the Regular and Express orders that were sent in before the March 1st price hike, and the April 1st shutdown after the price hike. These service levels were running around 4-5 weeks door to door up until February. People paying 50 and 75 dollars a card that sent stuff in February shouldn't still be waiting on these.

The bulk is what is. People knew when this stuff was sent in that a year was possible. $10/card, should be at the back of the line. If you sent stuff in that was way more valuable than that submission level. That's on you...

Nobody who sent in a bulk order last summer had any idea it would be a year. Or if there were people who did, you can count them on one hand.

I have orders that were sent last May that were finished in two months. I have orders that were mailed out last June that are still in Newport Beach. Nobody could have predicted that waiting three weeks to send out an order would result in an 11+ month delay.

[ArmyDC]

Originally Posted by CheapThief

Nobody who sent in a bulk order last summer had any idea it would be a year. Or if there were people who did, you can count them on one hand.

I have orders that were sent last May that were finished in two months. I have orders that were mailed out last June that are still in Newport Beach. Nobody could have predicted that waiting three weeks to send out an order would result in an 11+ month delay.

Yea I remember when 45 business days seemed like an eternity last summer.

[Vintagecollect]

Originally Posted by CheapThief

Nobody who sent in a bulk order last summer had any idea it would be a year. Or if there were people who did, you can count them on one hand.

I have orders that were sent last May that were finished in two months. I have orders that were mailed out last June that are still in Newport Beach. Nobody could have predicted that waiting three weeks to send out an order would result in an 11+ month delay.

Agree, more so when their "estimated" turnaround times stayed the same.

[Springerj23]

Originally Posted by CheapThief

Nobody who sent in a bulk order last summer had any idea it would be a year. Or if there were people who did, you can count them on one hand.

I have orders that were sent last May that were finished in two months. I have orders that were mailed out last June that are still in Newport Beach. Nobody could have predicted that waiting three weeks to send out an order would result in an 11+ month delay.

Bulk orders that were sent in last February (2020) were shipped out in October. It got progressively worse from there on month after month. So yes, bul orders sent in July, August, September of 2020 knew that they were looking 9-12 months when they sent them. To make matters worse, it got worse after that leading to the October price hikes, then March, then April shutdown.

[xtnimot]

Originally Posted by xtnimot

May 18th

Walk-Through 12 May 2021
Super Express 2 May 2021
Express 7 Mar 2021
Regular 16 Feb 2021
Economy 9 Sept 2020
Reholder 5 Oct 2020
Collectors Club Vouchers 14 Sept 2020
Value - Ultra Modern 7 Sept 2020
Value - Modern 9 Aug 2020
Value - Vintage 22 Sept 2020
Value - TCG 21 Aug 2020
Quarterly Specials 9 Aug 2020

May 19th

Walk-Through 13 May 2021
Super Express 2 May 2021
Express 7 Mar 2021
Regular 16 Feb 2021
Economy 9 Sept 2020
Reholder 5 Oct 2020
Collectors Club Vouchers 14 Sept 2020
Value - Ultra Modern 7 Sept 2020
Value - Modern 10 Aug 2020
Value - Vintage 22 Sept 2020
Value - TCG 24 Aug 2020
Quarterly Specials 9 Aug 2020