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Old 04-24-2021, 11:21 AM   #6776
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Short sighted. Panini isn’t a company for just the here and now. Sure they could do what you say. Not saying it would happen but say the market gets flooded, market tanks to some extent and then they are back in 2018 where the demand for their product was pretty minimal.

They have to have business sense to some degree or if they aren’t careful they will hurt the long term profitability of their company for a big short term gain.

Now I’m not saying they shouldn’t capitalize to some extent now and increase supply but they I’m sure are smart enough not to go totally ape #@#@#@#@ on the presses for the above reasons.


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Old 04-24-2021, 11:27 AM   #6777
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One good thing the guy at target said they will be doing, is at 8pm Friday, whatever is left will go on the regular shelf. At the Walmart, they are leaving it all behind the counter no matter what, and the magic, heritage and S1 is just piling up. People don't even know it is back there.
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Old 04-24-2021, 12:38 PM   #6778
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You think I'm some big bad reseller lol I have always split fairly between everyone when I'm at walmart or meijers. I've always been one to help others who may have questions lol

I make 90% of my income break hobby products. I go to target once a week to try and get a little retail product.

My point was someone said the line outside was a determinant to the regular customers but won't the line last longer now with this change.

Nah, I don’t think you are bad per se. Reselling will always be a thing. I’m just keeping in mind you see things from a certain angle. You’ve found an angle where you don’t have to work, good for you.

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Old 04-24-2021, 01:45 PM   #6779
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Mossoholic—I think Panini should make free memberships for big spenders or even a separate tier like ToppsNow Platinum. People spending the most should get something.
I don't think they need to give anything away for free. Maybe if they someone set up a system to where bigger spenders had a small allocations on first dibs at some product. I'm someone willing to pay $10,000 or more if they ever had a high tier membership plan. But why would they do that when they can continue to sell to the distributors, retail outlets, and the bots for peanuts?
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Old 04-24-2021, 01:47 PM   #6780
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What Panini should do is just triple production and make more money they are a business and if I was them thats what I would do. They are in it to make money so why not triple production while demand is so high it will still sell out. They could care less about the value of the cards after they sell it.
How does tripling production make sense? It's way more work and effort and long term not good for them. They can easily make a ton more than they have been making just by significantly cutting distributor allocation that Panini sells to them for under MSRP.
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Old 04-24-2021, 02:25 PM   #6782
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I don't think they need to give anything away for free. Maybe if they were someone set up a system to where bigger spenders had a small allocations on first dibs at some product. I'm someone willing to pay $10,000 or more if they ever had a high tier membership plan. But why would they do that when they can continue to sell to the distributors, retail outlets, and the bots for peanuts?
Someone who spends thousands on the Instant products should get a free membership but like ToppsNow, it’s not exactly free because of their spending.
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Old 04-24-2021, 03:04 PM   #6783
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you keep saying this but that doesn’t make it true.


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You don’t understand how retail stores operate in The 21st century do you? A lot of products are stocked by the vendor itself(or their agent) and the retailer sells on consignment. You ever wonder how coke and Pepsi are so cheap
On sale? Because coke and Pepsi still own the product. Target just gives them the space and acts as the retailer.
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Old 04-24-2021, 03:44 PM   #6784
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You don’t understand how retail stores operate in The 21st century do you? A lot of products are stocked by the vendor itself(or their agent) and the retailer sells on consignment. You ever wonder how coke and Pepsi are so cheap
On sale? Because coke and Pepsi still own the product. Target just gives them the space and acts as the retailer.

He’s saying the deal isn’t solely based on renting space, there’s a sales/revenue aspect to it too.
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Old 04-24-2021, 03:49 PM   #6785
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I’ll be interested to see what my Target is like next week. It’s 1 per sku, 3 total. So still enough to maybe keep the straight resellers interested and definitely enough for more people to get some. There ended up being about 14-15 in line when they opened at 8 today. I’ve never got in line with more than 7 in front of me because it was 3 per sku of everything. There were 2-3 guys today that showed up and left before it opened, guessing they weren’t going to get what they wanted.
Yeah I hope the one I've been going to sticks with the 3 total, 1 per SKU. Anxious to see if any changes this week. If anything, if most of them move to the 1 item total, then I'll just start to hit many more Targets I've long since abandoned with the hope there will still be something there when I get there.
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Old 04-24-2021, 03:54 PM   #6786
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Went to WM for the first time in about a month and theres now a sign saying sports and pokemon cards will be at the customer service desk each thursday morning..you can 2 of each type. Dont know how long thats been implemented and dont know exactly what two of each type means (2 sport non sport? 2 different skus..2 different sports?). Also the target in town has the 1 per guest starting 4/30 as well
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Went to WM for the first time in about a month and theres now a sign saying sports and pokemon cards will be at the customer service desk each thursday morning..you can 2 of each type. Dont know how long thats been implemented and dont know exactly what two of each type means (2 sport non sport? 2 different skus..2 different sports?). Also the target in town has the 1 per guest starting 4/30 as well
It seems to be the exception but I've ran into a few Wallys that keep the better stuff behind the desk at electronics. There was no sign either. So, always worth asking.
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Old 04-24-2021, 04:29 PM   #6788
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Went to WM for the first time in about a month and theres now a sign saying sports and pokemon cards will be at the customer service desk each thursday morning..you can 2 of each type. Dont know how long thats been implemented and dont know exactly what two of each type means (2 sport non sport? 2 different skus..2 different sports?). Also the target in town has the 1 per guest starting 4/30 as well
Some Walmarts near me are doing 1 per sku or 1 total item. Problem is, these stores could be several days basically any time. If they at least listed the day and time I would probably go. But Walmarts have always been finding a needle in a haystack. Could be anytime 7 am to about 7 pm a few days a week. Before it could be worth it if you struck gold. Now who is going to spend hours on end to best case scenario get 1 per sku?
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Old 04-24-2021, 05:11 PM   #6789
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You don’t understand how retail stores operate in The 21st century do you? A lot of products are stocked by the vendor itself(or their agent) and the retailer sells on consignment. You ever wonder how coke and Pepsi are so cheap

On sale? Because coke and Pepsi still own the product. Target just gives them the space and acts as the retailer.
Nope, not the way it works.
Most often stores will sell pop at a loss but you can bet your a$$ coke, Pepsi and 7up/Dr. Pepper aren't.

Target makes more than just the rental space on the shelf I guarantee it.

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Old 04-24-2021, 05:15 PM   #6790
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Pretty sure Target gets paid by what gets scanned. If something is stolen the vendor eats that loss.
That's how it worked when I managed a grocery store.


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Old 04-24-2021, 05:34 PM   #6791
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i can guarantee you the price target charges for coke and other cola products it is not being sold at a loss. At least not in my area.
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To put this coke debate to rest. I've been a Store Manager in retail for nearly 2 decades. Target is likely making 5 cents or maybe 25 cents a most per unit. I've ran CVS and Rite Aid stores. It was all about having that extra item in the basket. Coke would run big buy ins that would drop cost. Making your profit a bit higher.
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Old 04-25-2021, 07:33 AM   #6793
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Every grocery store has loss leaders. It's what brings customers in. They may sell that Kraft Mayo at a bit of a loss, but they more than make up for it as long as the customer isn't cherry picking items and fills their cart up with other items.

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i can guarantee you the price target charges for coke and other cola products it is not being sold at a loss. At least not in my area.
Agreed. No way a pepsi for $2.09 isn't making the store money.
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Old 04-25-2021, 07:54 AM   #6795
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Agreed. No way a pepsi for $2.09 isn't making the store money.
Especially when you can get a 6 pack for the price of 2 singles.
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Old 04-25-2021, 08:03 AM   #6796
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Some Walmarts near me are doing 1 per sku or 1 total item. Problem is, these stores could be several days basically any time. If they at least listed the day and time I would probably go. But Walmarts have always been finding a needle in a haystack. Could be anytime 7 am to about 7 pm a few days a week. Before it could be worth it if you struck gold. Now who is going to spend hours on end to best case scenario get 1 per sku?
In the depths of corona I would go to my target once a day or twice depending if was the day they usually got a shipment just to get some exercise and I'd probably pick up some groceries there because why make a second trip somewhere else. Once they went to this and things went nuts I said I'm done trying.
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Went 0-for-2 Friday night on the trip home from outta town, hoping to find a Heritage Mega. Plenty of Heritage fat packs everywhere; all other baseball appearing at just 1-2 per SKU with most absent. People love Topps Baseball cards this year!

Found 2 Megas back in my little ole home town on Saturday afternoon, 21 hours since the line-up. Bought one, left one for the Boomers.
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Old 04-25-2021, 09:04 AM   #6798
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With all of the people standing outside of Target at all times of the day and night it makes you wonder if anyone has a job..... Or has retail card reselling become that lucrative?
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Agreed. No way a pepsi for $2.09 isn't making the store money.
Yes, many times soft drinks are sold at a loss.

https://culinarylore.com/food-cultur...rocery-stores/

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Typical loss leaders you might find any time of year are#@meat, poultry, bread, soft drinks, cereal, and chips.

If you have never worked in grocery management you probably shouldn't be commenting on grocery loss leaders.

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Id say 95% of people lining up at Target had Jobs ( heck the dude next to me all 3 weeks was a dentist ) and 95 % people were degens, who didnt want to pay 140.00 for a 20.00 dollar blaster. Sure we all have to sell some sealed products. But thats not to make money, That to help sustain our addiction ( 90% of time you get wrecked when you open product ) . Yes there were couple of idiots who thought they could do this for job as " Retail Box Breakers " . But most part it was interesting , people were awesome , and i met some really cool degens.
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