First Buzz: 2020 Panini National Treasures football cards - Page 4

49erRCCollector · 04-13-2021, 03:51 PM

We are in strange times, no doubt. I saw the checklist today and I just don't see why anyone would be excited.

Herbert? OK. Fair. He's good.

Burrow got hurt and plays for the Bengals. Tua was underwhelming on a great defensive team. Wideouts are fun, but do I see a lock HOF player here? No.

Sure there's "straight fire" in there but there's mostly just blah stuff. I saw one card I wanted. ONE.

of non-RPAs only the Mahomes Prizm Super Bowl Signatures card will draw universal interest.

crazy.

Bob Ross · 04-13-2021, 04:47 PM

Does that say $4249.95?

mcgee2134 · 04-13-2021, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Tonic3

So the 2020 FOTL dutch auction tomorrow starts at $10,000 with a floor of $2500.

Last years FOTL started at $2500 with a floor of $750.....and it sold out for ~$1100 (including taxes).

Just wanted to give everyone some perspective before the insanity of tomorrow hits.

Yup, I bought 4 boxes for $1200 each which I thought was too much.
I wouldn't buy a single box at $2500.

EDIT: Just realized the FOTL dutch already happened. WTF?!? I never got an email or notification on my phone. Though I guess it doesn't matter since I wouldn't have paid half of what they are going for.

Schmoove · 04-13-2021, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Ross

Does that say $4249.95?

Only $42 for a random spot break!

coltsnsox07 · 04-13-2021, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Ross

Does that say $4249.95?

Maybe it's a really late April Fool's joke? Or that's the price for a case?
You could buy 2 1/2 ounces of gold bullion or 8 football cards.

Seahawks fan · 04-13-2021, 07:58 PM

Checklist for Seahawks is awful

Autos
Freddie Swain
Jordyn Brooks
Deejay Dallas
Wilson /3
Lockett /49
Wilson/Metcalf /25
Wilson/Metcalf/Lockett /5
Greg Olsen (Seahawks jersey?)

This would be rough at $50 a case break. At hundreds per spot you could just buy a Wilson RC auto.

shootit · 04-14-2021, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by 21stguy

Jaspys at 4.5k for the Chargers in a case break I mean that‘s horrible, not saying the others at 3.5 are better but come on... This even makes filling those breaks for the bigger breakers hard it seems which shows how messed up the whole thing is by now.

i mean its a better gamble than buying one hobby box

its herbert or bust anyways valuewise

I pull scrubs · 04-14-2021, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by 49erRCCollector

We are in strange times, no doubt. I saw the checklist today and I just don't see why anyone would be excited.

Herbert? OK. Fair. He's good.

Burrow got hurt and plays for the Bengals. Tua was underwhelming on a great defensive team. Wideouts are fun, but do I see a lock HOF player here? No.

Sure there's "straight fire" in there but there's mostly just blah stuff. I saw one card I wanted. ONE.

of non-RPAs only the Mahomes Prizm Super Bowl Signatures card will draw universal interest.

crazy.

Don't forget about the GOAT cards!

keysersoze3421 · 04-14-2021, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by shootit

i mean its a better gamble than buying one hobby box

its herbert or bust anyways valuewise

That's arguable. Higher risk, higher reward. You could make your money back twofold-threefold or be out $4+K with no cards to show for it. At least if you're buying a hobby box, you're assuring yourself something.

Promethius88 · 04-14-2021, 10:21 AM

Any bets on how long this will sit out there??

sethc1020 · 04-14-2021, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Promethius88

Any bets on how long this will sit out there??

Hopefully forever!!! The only way to correct the price gouging is to stop buying at these insane prices.

Pixman1 · 04-14-2021, 10:59 AM

Layton breaks also show lots of redemptions. I have redemptions sitting at Panini for months with no movement. I wonder even if you get a good one when Panini will get around to sending it to you. Josh Allen and Joe Burrow were redemption cards among others.

Hectekk · 04-14-2021, 11:36 AM

Just did a case break and got lucky with 5 cards. I'm out of NT now. Cards are plain looking anyways.

keysersoze3421 · 04-14-2021, 03:27 PM

Is this the longest a product has lasted on the Panini website in the last 6 months?

rmw10 · 04-14-2021, 04:52 PM

Anyone else think they're pretty ugly this year? Not much I've seen out of this that I like so far.

Dallas Cowboys · 04-14-2021, 05:22 PM

I'd love to get the Jim Thorpe cut auto.

Tonic3 · 04-14-2021, 09:17 PM

“The enclosed authentic memorabilia is not from any specific game or event”

They don’t even say player worn/used anymore. What’s the point

And the price is $4000/box

Row · 04-14-2021, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Tonic3

“The enclosed authentic memorabilia is not from any specific game or event”

They don’t even say player worn/used anymore. What’s the point

And the price is $4000/box

Yeh, it's effectively manufactured patch cards now.

KBA · 04-14-2021, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Tonic3

“The enclosed authentic memorabilia is not from any specific game or event”

They don’t even say player worn/used anymore. What’s the point

And the price is $4000/box

Crazy to me. Haven’t picked up any mem cards or RPA’s last year or this year.

Tonic3 · 04-14-2021, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Row

Yeh, it's effectively manufactured patch cards now.

The statement on the back of the new Origins Basketball jersey cards is even worse:

“The enclosed officially licensed material is not associated with any specific player, game, or event”

Now THAT really leaves no hope of it being relevant in any way

Seahawks fan · 04-14-2021, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by KBA

Crazy to me. Haven’t picked up any mem cards or RPA’s last year or this year.

They don't have to. All of it selling out in minutes regardless... we will see more 1/1s, Mitchell and Ness Patch cards, and more of the same hot players in every release to appease the current crowd. The standard collectors got out back when Score was $250 a bix.

patchgenie · 04-14-2021, 11:04 PM

some nice FPA's in this.

coltsnsox07 · 04-15-2021, 12:23 AM

Want to watch over $20K flushed down the toilet?...
this poor guy's personal FOTL 4 box case opened.
https://youtu.be/HtB5jDJCYjA

gorillaz · 04-15-2021, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by coltsnsox07

Want to watch over $20K flushed down the toilet?...
this poor guy's personal FOTL 4 box case opened.
https://youtu.be/HtB5jDJCYjA

case 2 for someone else isn't all that better https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLPPPuT9O88

JWinn · 04-15-2021, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by coltsnsox07

Want to watch over $20K flushed down the toilet?...
this poor guy's personal FOTL 4 box case opened.
https://youtu.be/HtB5jDJCYjA

WOW!

Just wow!

That has to be the worst thing I have ever seen in this hobby.

Starting with the unbelievable cost.

Followed by a guy who actually slams a "$23,000.00" case on the table to get the boxes out. Seriously dude? THIS is how you treat other people's property? Why not use a shotgun?

And ending up with a small stack of not game used complete junk, a few stickers, an ALREADY fading autograph, and three code cards. Two redemptions in one box that cost over 5 thousand dollars is an unbelievable slap in the face by Panini.

"Dear collector, Congratulations! You've been screwed in the ass by Panini like few others. You are special!"

Opening this crap with a shotgun would have been mercy.

And did he say all that was for one guy? Why in the world would anyone let someone else open his case? I wouldn't do the with a $20 blaster, let alone something like this. Twenty-three grand and you didn't even get to open it?

Ya sure, go ahead and dive my brand new Ferrari before I get it. Go ahead and drive it like Jeremy Clarkson.

Man, the stupid stuff I read on this forum.... This takes the cake, by far.

Just for comparison, I pay about $7,000 a year for two prime club seats and one prime parking pass for Broncos season tickets. And I get a great deal as I am in a long term contract.

This guy just spent more on this than I will over the next three years going to games.

His wife SHOULD kill him, lol.

04-13-2021, 03:51 PM	#76
49erRCCollector Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 12,455	We are in strange times, no doubt. I saw the checklist today and I just don't see why anyone would be excited. Herbert? OK. Fair. He's good. Burrow got hurt and plays for the Bengals. Tua was underwhelming on a great defensive team. Wideouts are fun, but do I see a lock HOF player here? No. Sure there's "straight fire" in there but there's mostly just blah stuff. I saw one card I wanted. ONE. of non-RPAs only the Mahomes Prizm Super Bowl Signatures card will draw universal interest. crazy. __________________ Will MASSIVELY overpay for: 2002 Fleer Authentix #180, 181 Derek Smith & Zack Bronson AND 2007 Upper Deck Target Exclusive Rookies Autographs #261 Joe Staley #'d to /5

04-13-2021, 07:58 PM	#81
Seahawks fan Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: USA Posts: 7,846	Checklist for Seahawks is awful Autos Freddie Swain Jordyn Brooks Deejay Dallas Wilson /3 Lockett /49 Wilson/Metcalf /25 Wilson/Metcalf/Lockett /5 Greg Olsen (Seahawks jersey?) This would be rough at $50 a case break. At hundreds per spot you could just buy a Wilson RC auto. __________________ Always looking for Kam Chancellor and Rare Marcus Trufant cards. I will buy or trade just message me.

04-14-2021, 03:27 PM	#89
keysersoze3421 Member Join Date: Jan 2021 Location: Decatur, GA Posts: 1,069 zanoo23	Is this the longest a product has lasted on the Panini website in the last 6 months? __________________ PC - 90s Patriots, Brett Favre, Vlad Guerrero Sr., Jeff Bagwell, Pedro Martinez IG: zanoo23_sportscards https://www.flickr.com/photos/158811696@N03/albums

04-14-2021, 04:52 PM	#90
rmw10 Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 2,854	Anyone else think they're pretty ugly this year? Not much I've seen out of this that I like so far. __________________ Ravens All-Time Roster Project can be found here. Mostly IP autographs, but a good number of certified cards to be found as well. https://www.flickr.com/photos/76326578@N05/albums

04-14-2021, 09:17 PM	#92
Tonic3 Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Southwest MI Posts: 2,433	“The enclosed authentic memorabilia is not from any specific game or event” They don’t even say player worn/used anymore. What’s the point And the price is $4000/box __________________ Always looking for: 2001 SP Authentic Golf - Preview parallels - Gold (#/250) and Red (#/50) of any player...especially Tiger Woods. Last edited by Tonic3; 04-14-2021 at 09:21 PM.

04-13-2021, 04:47 PM	#77
Bob Ross Member Join Date: Oct 2019 Posts: 5,074	Does that say $4249.95?

04-14-2021, 10:21 AM	#85
Promethius88 Member Join Date: Dec 2019 Posts: 1,497	Any bets on how long this will sit out there??

04-14-2021, 10:59 AM	#87
Pixman1 Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Ft worth, TX Posts: 843 Pixley2006	Layton breaks also show lots of redemptions. I have redemptions sitting at Panini for months with no movement. I wonder even if you get a good one when Panini will get around to sending it to you. Josh Allen and Joe Burrow were redemption cards among others.

04-14-2021, 11:36 AM	#88
Hectekk Member Join Date: Mar 2021 Posts: 57	Just did a case break and got lucky with 5 cards. I'm out of NT now. Cards are plain looking anyways.

04-14-2021, 05:22 PM	#91
Dallas Cowboys Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Amarillo, Texas Posts: 1,072 joyboy23 legolas27	I'd love to get the Jim Thorpe cut auto.

04-14-2021, 11:04 PM	#97
patchgenie Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 6,793 americansportscards	some nice FPA's in this.

04-15-2021, 12:23 AM	#98
coltsnsox07 Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 22,049	Want to watch over $20K flushed down the toilet?... this poor guy's personal FOTL 4 box case opened. https://youtu.be/HtB5jDJCYjA