Topps Project 2020 is the worst product since 1991 Fleer

[BigEd]

Originally Posted by 1000 Sport Zonk

Its hard to tell with Topps junky website making things disappear and reappear when you refresh the same page, but todays three APs seem to be still available!

Yeah, I was able to get all the way to the final checkout page for the Ozzie. But I didn't actually want it, so I didn't place the order.

[Maven]

Damn all the AP’s still can be added to cart

[eldustino]

Originally Posted by eldustino

Agree - Quiccs, Blake, Lauren also get PR bumps, but I don't see them getting Ermsy/Pardee level bumps. But I put Quiccs solidly in upper tier at this point.

Originally Posted by BigEd

When discussing PRs, everyone seems to forget that Blake's are always solid. By the end, I'm guessing he's in the top five for print runs. I'll be surprised if he isn't top ten.

Do they?

Ha ha I joke. Blake looks downright polished in P2021 compared to some of the participants. And I agree with you that he doesn't come up often as a PR leader, though I personally don't forget. Like he said, he thought the PR for Cutch was solid, and he was right.

[aeast317]

Originally Posted by BabaORiley

This is TBP's DREAM 3-pack.

Impossible without an OMA

[vermonty]

Ozzie AP shows up as sold out. Which lasts longest?

[aeast317]

I really like the CRAOLA card. I'm starting to wish I'd bought the others becuase I think I'm only going to like his set more and more. I don't love any of the subjects or teams yet, but this might be the one that gets me to finally buy one.

[BH34]

one hour in, ozzie AP sold out but other two still available.

I wonder if topps lowers these back down to $99 if this trend continues..

[samcam]

$36 gets you the first two Craola on eBuymyoldcrap

[vermonty]

I'm a little surprised. These are all better than the Lasorda last week, in my judgment.

[eldavojohn]

Originally Posted by BH34

one hour in, ozzie AP sold out but other two still available.

I wonder if topps lowers these back down to $99 if this trend continues..

Honestly I don't think the price is the problem ... even though I was wrong and thought this would start around card #100, the flip just is not sustainable out on the market.

[Oliroller]

Why would anyone pay $170 for that Larussa or Gooden AP when you can go buy the next five "pop fly guy" print releases for the same price?

[samcam]

I'd pay 100 for some of these. No chance at 170. The price is a problem for me.

[Oliroller]

Originally Posted by samcam

I'd pay 100 for some of these. No chance at 170. The price is a problem for me.

Unless it's a nice Griffey!

[Shinjoy]

Originally Posted by Oliroller

Why would anyone pay $170 for that Larussa or Gooden AP when you can go buy the next five "pop fly guy" print releases for the same price?

My only concern with the Pop Fly guy is that his last few issues don't have MLB logos and [full] player names. That's the only thing that's held me back on the Seaver.

Also, people prefer baseball cards over larger prints.

[BigEd]

Originally Posted by BigEd

When discussing PRs, everyone seems to forget that Blake's are always solid. By the end, I'm guessing he's in the top five for print runs. I'll be surprised if he isn't top ten.

Originally Posted by eldustino

Do they?

Ha ha I joke. Blake looks downright polished in P2021 compared to some of the participants. And I agree with you that he doesn't come up often as a PR leader, though I personally don't forget. Like he said, he thought the PR for Cutch was solid, and he was right.

Hey, no fair calling me out because of something you posted WHILE I was writing my post.

I think the reason a lot of people forget it is because he's so consistent. I think his PRs are the purest gauge of a player's hobby value. Maybe Naturel and Matt Taylor are as well, but Blake consistently outsells both of them.

[kevbojones]

I would guess that the secondary market on these cards is dismal--it'sall about the foils

Originally Posted by eldavojohn

Honestly I don't think the price is the problem ... even though I was wrong and thought this would start around card #100, the flip just is not sustainable out on the market.

[Oliroller]

Originally Posted by Shinjoy

My only concern with the Pop Fly guy is that his last few issues don't have MLB logos and [full] player names. That's the only thing that's held me back on the Seaver.

Also, people prefer baseball cards over larger prints.

Did the earlier ones have those? Interesting. I bought the Seaver just to see how they look in hand.

[BH34]

the AP flippers and foil chasers have been masking how dismal some/many of these p70 have been.
AP flippers have mostly moved on at this point; at what point are the foils no longer worth chasing, when they fall below $100 on the secondary?

[Shinjoy]

Originally Posted by Oliroller

Did the earlier ones have those? Interesting. I bought the Seaver just to see how they look in hand.

They all had team logos until The Mad Hungarian. I wonder if MLB came a-knocking once his PRs increased a bit.

He's done a good job of hiding it so far. It's not noticeable on the Seaver unless you look closely at Mr Met.

[ThoseBackPages]

i bought a 2009 Flagship ASG Ichiro Printing Plate for $80 last week, which is a real 1/1 item.

i cant see myself ever spending 170 on any of these

[JRX]

That's what I don't get, why does anyone want a foil of a card they don't like.

[R A]

Re: Efdot and his team get things done

Just wanted to share a positive experience I had with Eric and his team...

I thought I had purchased the Left Arm of Blob (Koufax companion) when it was released, but somehow I didn't. It's no longer listed on his site, so I reached out to see if it there was one left. They replied with a link to purchase it. I then asked if I could tack this card purchase onto the Say Hey Blob (Mays companion) purchase I made on Friday and they sent me a new link where they combined shipping so I didn't incur an additional cost.

Good stuff.

[cnote81]

Originally Posted by BH34

the AP flippers and foil chasers have been masking how dismal some/many of these p70 have been.
AP flippers have mostly moved on at this point; at what point are the foils no longer worth chasing, when they fall below $100 on the secondary?

There were a few AP auctions I tracked last week that came in well under MSRP. I'm guessing the flippers are going to get more selective, if they haven't already.

[Oliroller]

Originally Posted by Shinjoy

They all had team logos until The Mad Hungarian. I wonder if MLB came a-knocking once his PRs increased a bit.

He's done a good job of hiding it so far. It's not noticeable on the Seaver unless you look closely at Mr Met.

Probably coincided with his interview on the mlb network where they were really pumping up his work.

[eldavojohn]

Originally Posted by kevbojones

I would guess that the secondary market on these cards is dismal--it'sall about the foils

Fair enough. I thought so too but then talked myself into the Ruth yesterday.