First Buzz: 2020 Panini National Treasures football cards

BlowoutBuzz · 02-23-2021, 11:49 AM

First Buzz: 2020 Panini National Treasures football cards -- get the basics and see a gallery here >> BlowoutBuzz.com #collect

marinocollector · 02-23-2021, 03:18 PM

LOL at basketball throwbacks.

Panini knows who their high end audience really is.

escapegoat · 02-23-2021, 03:38 PM

this design is clean. i’ll have to grab some singles.

Siberian13 · 02-23-2021, 04:04 PM

Blowout finally changing it up.

“Boxes carry an increased suggested retail price of $1,000.”

Tonic3 · 03-25-2021, 04:09 PM

I'm still finding it hard to believe that the pre-order price is $5,000/box.

Is this Basketball

tier1dc · 03-25-2021, 05:05 PM

Product limited to 5 boxes per transaction

On Panini site. How many did they make?

kyle1707 · 03-25-2021, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Tonic3

I'm still finding it hard to believe that the pre-order price is $5,000/box.

Is this Basketball

Product is ok at 600-700... seriously... I’m not kidding

20k per case. It’s has to be getting to a point

Where all these new people have to start realizing they are getting massively ripped off ?

Even the buyers in gambling breaks ?

Kingofkings1281 · 03-25-2021, 06:48 PM

Man, I miss the days when those two Brady cards wouldn’t cost me $15k each.

NoleinJax · 03-25-2021, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Tonic3

I'm still finding it hard to believe that the pre-order price is $5,000/box.

Is this Basketball

No, those will be $10k+/box.

HBMC · 03-25-2021, 09:00 PM

The two Brady autos are on glossy finish.

Not a fan in a high end product. Of course this precludes I can even look at a box of NT to begin with.

roberth404 · 03-25-2021, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by HBMC

The two Brady autos are on glossy finish.

Not a fan in a high end product. Of course this precludes I can even look at a box of NT to begin with.

I don't get it, what is wrong with glossy finish?

PhilT · 03-26-2021, 11:19 AM

They spelled Emmitt Smith wrong...lol

JK-Amsterdam · 03-26-2021, 11:59 AM

no cuts in NT? just ain't right

The Accountant · 03-26-2021, 12:35 PM

RPA design is pretty nice

SethMurphy · 03-26-2021, 12:59 PM

$5,000/32 teams - $156 roughly at cost for a random team break.......

OF ONE BOX!

People are going to be pricing the Chargers at like $2,500 per box on this stuff for breaks.... these prices are just so stupid now

Tonic3 · 03-26-2021, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by SethMurphy

$5,000/32 teams - $156 roughly at cost for a random team break.......

OF ONE BOX!

People are going to be pricing the Chargers at like $2,500 per box on this stuff for breaks.... these prices are just so stupid now

Ya, that's insane. I watch Layton's breaks often just to see what the normal content is like coming out of a box of a new product. Secretly I'm always hoping they aren't able to sell out their breaks and that people will wake up to the price gouging. But inevitably they always eventually sell out. Unfortunately

Although it appears more recently that it's getting harder and harder for them to fill breaks. They have to constantly keep encouraging people to buy buy buy.... and it often drags out past the scheduled break time. Maybe that's a good sign that buyer mentality is changing for the better

Armadillo Al · 03-26-2021, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by PhilT

They spelled Emmitt Smith wrong...lol

Cut them some slack. They're only making somewhere between one and five thousand dollars for eight pieces of cardboard. That's not nearly enough to be able to afford the time to be able to check for errors like that.

shootit · 03-26-2021, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Tonic3

Ya, that's insane. I watch Layton's breaks often just to see what the normal content is like coming out of a box of a new product. Secretly I'm always hoping they aren't able to sell out their breaks and that people will wake up to the price gouging. But inevitably they always eventually sell out. Unfortunately

Although it appears more recently that it's getting harder and harder for them to fill breaks. They have to constantly keep encouraging people to buy buy buy.... and it often drags out past the scheduled break time. Maybe that's a good sign that buyer mentality is changing for the better

i dont think thats it, its just people are running out of money/getting priced out

panini/distros dumbass squeezing the golden goose too hard

JeremyNick · 03-26-2021, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Tonic3

Ya, that's insane. I watch Layton's breaks often just to see what the normal content is like coming out of a box of a new product. Secretly I'm always hoping they aren't able to sell out their breaks and that people will wake up to the price gouging. But inevitably they always eventually sell out. Unfortunately

Although it appears more recently that it's getting harder and harder for them to fill breaks. They have to constantly keep encouraging people to buy buy buy.... and it often drags out past the scheduled break time. Maybe that's a good sign that buyer mentality is changing for the better

I used to watch Layton when I got back into the hobby around 2017. They were really just getting hot at that point and then moving into 2018 there breaks were sold out by the time they went on air. I stopped watching a year plus ago because they went from being a fun place to watch to something a lot less enjoyable. If they are having difficulty selling out breaks, things must be trending in the wrong direction for them.

If breakers start losing money on product, there is going to be a significant problem for the distributors.

HBMC · 03-26-2021, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by roberth404

I don't get it, what is wrong with glossy finish?

They can lead to streaky/smudged autos if the ink isn't dry as they are being signed.

I am more partial to matte finish on cards to avoid the image being washed out in the light too. More of a personal preference on my part.

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Originally Posted by PhilT

They spelled Emmitt Smith wrong...lol

This is done on purpose with mock ups all of the time to prevent people from copying the designs and passing them off as their own (as we see all over eBay with mock ups of real cards).

Tonic3 · 04-07-2021, 11:06 AM

So the 2020 FOTL dutch auction tomorrow starts at $10,000 with a floor of $2500.

Last years FOTL started at $2500 with a floor of $750.....and it sold out for ~$1100 (including taxes).

Just wanted to give everyone some perspective before the insanity of tomorrow hits.

sethc1020 · 04-07-2021, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Tonic3

So the 2020 FOTL dutch auction tomorrow starts at $10,000 with a floor of $2500.

Last years FOTL started at $2500 with a floor of $750.....and it sold out for ~$1100 (including taxes).

Just wanted to give everyone some perspective before the insanity of tomorrow hits.

Should be fun!!!

mossoholic · 04-07-2021, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Tonic3

So the 2020 FOTL dutch auction tomorrow starts at $10,000 with a floor of $2500.

Last years FOTL started at $2500 with a floor of $750.....and it sold out for ~$1100 (including taxes).

Just wanted to give everyone some perspective before the insanity of tomorrow hits.

What’s more crazy is that about 3-4 weeks after 2019 NT FOTL came out you could have sold for around 90% of what they sell for almost a year later. Has to be 1 of the worst holds since around this time last year.

TheFrenzy · 04-07-2021, 01:26 PM

Don't worry guys, this is the new normal and totally not a bubble.

Archangel1775 · 04-07-2021, 01:45 PM

I opened a case of 2011 National Treasures this last year and almost threw up at $500 per box.......paying $5k...good luck...

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marinocollector Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Locally Posts: 8,290	LOL at basketball throwbacks. Panini knows who their high end audience really is. __________________ There's 100 made! Lets hope that one of the .00000001% of the world population that actually own this card decides that today is the day they offer it for sale.

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HBMC Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Missouri Posts: 16,394 hogsboysmavscards	The two Brady autos are on glossy finish. Not a fan in a high end product. Of course this precludes I can even look at a box of NT to begin with. __________________ I PC: Dallas Cowboys Arkansas Razorbacks StL Cards KC Chiefs Tyron Smith, Travis Frederick and Zack Martin PC'er

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escapegoat Banned - PBM Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: WA State Posts: 4,744	this design is clean. i’ll have to grab some singles.

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Siberian13 Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 77,157 shiller13	Blowout finally changing it up. “Boxes carry an increased suggested retail price of $1,000.”

03-25-2021, 04:09 PM	#5
Tonic3 Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Southwest MI Posts: 2,437	I'm still finding it hard to believe that the pre-order price is $5,000/box. Is this Basketball

03-25-2021, 05:05 PM	#6
tier1dc Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 5,541	Product limited to 5 boxes per transaction On Panini site. How many did they make?

03-26-2021, 11:19 AM	#12
PhilT Member Join Date: Sep 2020 Posts: 30	They spelled Emmitt Smith wrong...lol

03-26-2021, 12:35 PM	#14
The Accountant Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 12,957	RPA design is pretty nice __________________ Buying: Cole Hamels 1/1s

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SethMurphy Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Centerville/Erie, PA Posts: 19,478 smurf_8 sethmurphy	$5,000/32 teams - $156 roughly at cost for a random team break....... OF ONE BOX! People are going to be pricing the Chargers at like $2,500 per box on this stuff for breaks.... these prices are just so stupid now __________________ Twitter - @seth_murphy8 PCs - Ryan Callahan, Reggie Lewis, Funko Pops (a little), a few other things that catch my eye

04-07-2021, 11:06 AM	#21
Tonic3 Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Southwest MI Posts: 2,437	So the 2020 FOTL dutch auction tomorrow starts at $10,000 with a floor of $2500. Last years FOTL started at $2500 with a floor of $750.....and it sold out for ~$1100 (including taxes). Just wanted to give everyone some perspective before the insanity of tomorrow hits.

04-07-2021, 01:26 PM	#24
TheFrenzy Banned Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Texan in AZ Posts: 44,115	Don't worry guys, this is the new normal and totally not a bubble.

04-07-2021, 01:45 PM	#25
Archangel1775 Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Cali baby! Posts: 21,837	I opened a case of 2011 National Treasures this last year and almost threw up at $500 per box.......paying $5k...good luck... __________________ *There are the intangibles that set someone apart from the pack.So the blur isn't your inability to see his greatness, it's merely the inability to measure it.*