Weird Heritage Box. Suggestions? Thoughts? Interest?

[ttdjake]

I bought a Topps Heritage box today. Went home and ripped it, and across all 24 packs, two cards per pack had a mismatch of player front/ player back.

For example, I have a card with Bryce Harper's photo on the front and Aaron Judge's stats on the back. I also have a card with Aaron Judge's photo and Bryce Harper's stats on the back. I looked in the variation guide and this was not planned I don't believe.

Basically I have 48 cards that are just mis-prints, and I only have the mismatched pairs for 28 of them.

Any thoughts on what to do here? Has anyone here seen this before? Photos linked here and below.

[sgbernard]

qc on this set looks to have been really bad, huh?

[ttdjake]

Doesn't appear to have been the best, no.

[base set]

These exist in 1972 and creating them was probably not an accident. Collating them at 24/box though...

[UCCF]

I've seen a lot of reports of this. It's not clear if it's intentional or just a mistake, and if it's intentional how rare these are. With Topps it's just impossible to know these days.

[MSU Bulldogs]

It is a printing error called "wrong backs". They are rare but don't typically bring a premium.

[ttdjake]

Any idea how rare? Finding information on this has been very difficult.

Originally Posted by MSU Bulldogs

It is a printing error called "wrong backs". They are rare but don't typically bring a premium.

[metallicalex777]

It probably falls in the bucket of "more unannounced surprises!" which has been one of the documented selling points when it was originally promoted:

Base Card Variations (Select subjects)
- Mini Base – numbered to 100
- Throwback Uniforms – ULTRA RARE
- Action Images – HOBBY EXCLUSIVE
- Nickname Variations – Limited
Look for more unannounced surprises!

[UCCF]

I wonder if the missing Biggio card is an "unannounced surprise" or just an "oopsie-poopsy".

[MSU Bulldogs]

No way to ever know once the cards are packaged. They could all 1 of 1's or there could be a thousand.

[ttdjake]

Originally Posted by UCCF

I wonder if the missing Biggio card is an "unannounced surprise" or just an "oopsie-poopsy".

Technically every printing error is an "unannounced surprise" lol

[UCCF]

Originally Posted by ttdjake

Technically every printing error is an "unannounced surprise" lol

When I was in medical school, a surgeon once told me that there were no mistakes in the OR. If something went wrong, he'd just say "oh, that's a surprise".

He might be the president of Topps now.

[val47]

the SP are only the cards 400 to 500

[otisnixonspipe]

Originally Posted by ttdjake

Any thoughts on what to do here? Has anyone here seen this before? Photos linked here and below.

I opened a hobby box last night with all the same wrong backs as you. Also had a Pache auto.

[kyle1707]

Originally Posted by sgbernard

qc on this set looks to have been really bad, huh?

I’m at the point where I think they do it on purpose

Why ?

No idea

[mjohnatgt]

If Topps meant them to be an unannounced variation, they wouldn't have packaged that many of them in one box.
The factory just loaded the wrong sheets into the press. May sell for a small premium initially, but people get bored of them quick.

[mainerunr]

Originally Posted by mjohnatgt

If Topps meant them to be an unannounced variation, they wouldn't have packaged that many of them in one box.
The factory just loaded the wrong sheets into the press. May sell for a small premium initially, but people get bored of them quick.

There have been collation issues in the past. And if they loaded the wrong sheet, it would be more than that number...and for someone else to get the exact same ones? I mean if there is a full sheet worth of wrong backs then maybe but 28 does not seem like it would encompass a full printing sheet so...

OP, did you get any "correct" versions of any of those players? That might be telling as well.

[notoriousrmb]

Originally Posted by metallicalex777

It probably falls in the bucket of "more unannounced surprises!" which has been one of the documented selling points when it was originally promoted:

Base Card Variations (Select subjects)
- Mini Base – numbered to 100
- Throwback Uniforms – ULTRA RARE
- Action Images – HOBBY EXCLUSIVE
- Nickname Variations – Limited
Look for more unannounced surprises!

"More Unannounced Surprises" will be on every product sheet going forward as a way to explain mistakes.

Look for the "Additional Non-Mentioned Secret" parallels from Panini.

"Happy Surprising" from Leaf.

[Soxfan26]

Are you guys completely unfamiliar with Topps Heritage? The product always replicates actual errors that occurred on the original set (spelling errors, colors, names, etc). This was an error with '72 Topps and was done on purpose. It's the beauty of Heritage. They've been doing this stuff since the first set in 2001.

[MSU Bulldogs]

Originally Posted by Soxfan26

Are you guys completely unfamiliar with Topps Heritage? The product always replicates actual errors that occurred on the original set (spelling errors, colors, names, etc). This was an error with '72 Topps and was done on purpose. It's the beauty of Heritage. They've been doing this stuff since the first set in 2001.

Nope. If these were intended you would not 28 of then in a box.

[base set]

Originally Posted by MSU Bulldogs

Nope. If these were intended you would not 28 of then in a box.

Was this box from the Heritage thread intended?

Originally Posted by Donmattingly23

Well, Box 1 was obliterated by Box 2. First time I have been on the right side of a Topps screw up. Box 2 was the hot box with purple chrome cards in each pack. The error was that two variations/parallels led off 23 of the packs (the auto pack was set up normally with base on top).

Here is the haul from ONE hobby box:

15 black border (1:78 packs)
3 French text/white back (1:320 packs)





4 Team Name Color Swap (1:312)
1 Flip Stock -Goldschmidt (1:778)
1 Missing Stars Variation -Tatis (1:3,072)
1 Auto



And the BIG ONE:

22 Action Image Variarions (1:52)






Of course depending on how many boxes have this error, odds could be much tougher overall since the copies of actions and other variations are usually capped (I believe the thought was 1,500 copies per action).

I am just happy I finally got lucky!


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[tribefan26]

Originally Posted by val47

the SP are only the cards 400 to 500

401 to 500 - 400 is not an SP

[shrevecity]

Originally Posted by MSU Bulldogs

Nope. If these were intended you would not 28 of then in a box.

Unless its a collation error with the unannounced surprise or a hot box. Heritage is known to do this they are also known for "hot boxes" So with heritage you just nevewr really know.

[whitmm]

I purchased two boxes. Saw the info about wrong backs before I started my collation, so it took twice as long to sort, having to check fronts and backs and make sure they all matched. No wrong backs. The only oddity was the pack that had the auto had two duplicates, as in the there were 2 of the same card in the pack. If it means anything, the instead of a serial number on the Topps sticker on the plastic wrap, it said "void"

[smapdi]

Wrongbacks and blankbacks have a long history in the hobby, and they are simple production errors. You can find them in most Topps sets through the 80s, and they still occasionally pop up in the 90s. Chances of them being some unannounced parallel are, IMHO, zero.