First Buzz: 2021 Topps Series 1 baseball cards + SPs - Page 92

ryknow216 · 03-19-2021, 05:19 PM

Just bought 10 hangers for $16 a piece from SX so we'll see how that goes. Never bought from them before.

hotcalsun · 03-19-2021, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by mcwildcats

Those prices are nuts.

Yeah, the retail box isn't too crazy but the others are.

mcwildcats · 03-19-2021, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by hotcalsun

Yeah, the retail box isn't too crazy but the others are.

I just think that on the retail, if you're patient, you can find this at MSRP.

ScottBreaks · 03-19-2021, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by hotcalsun

Yeah, the retail box isn't too crazy but the others are.

I've seen the LCS around me already start to come down on their prices.

RaceDog · 03-19-2021, 08:36 PM

I was lucky to get 2 cases of hangers at retail cost from an online dealer. These came in today and I ripped 1 case. These are the highlights. The best rookie parallel was an Andres Gimenez Rainbow Foil. I got between 10 and 14 of each RC.
The Olivares auto is #'d /50.
The Mize is a black #'s /299. The Clemens and Johnson are unnumbered blues.

rwperu34 · 03-20-2021, 03:23 AM

I can't believe Oliver Perez is still active and on baseball cards.

js0000001 · 03-20-2021, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by rwperu34

I can't believe Oliver Perez is still active and on baseball cards.

Lefties last forever. Harder to find I suppose

Retail Fool · 03-20-2021, 07:31 AM

I'm not sure if this has been mentioned already, but is there a big difference in terms of quality between the hangers that DO NOT have those Bellinger cards, WM hangers, and WG hangers?

Got some hangers yesterday from Target that just say chance at auto or relic on the front right corner and they were brutal. I only pulled one parallel from two hangers - a rainbow foil.

soicanbefree · 03-20-2021, 09:45 AM

First time trying to do pack math here:

I have the total print run as about 311,044,800 cards.

With 322 SSP and 44 for the SSSP print run. (per card)

I mainly tried to do this because I wanted to know just how rare those Ultra SSPs were.

I could have screwed up I'm not sure how to account for inserts when working off the Platinum odds.

base set · 03-20-2021, 10:28 AM

Well for the SSPs a number divisible by 11 looks good.

25 SSP x 44 copies = 1,100 cards / 110 card sheets = 10 sheets of each card.

With a 330 card checklist it is clear that Topps went back to 110 card sheets now. So this can help figure out production #s by trying to check out how they could be produced based on the sheet size.

But that would mean re-figuring your SP #s probably. 75 cards there, so probably also run via single card sheets would be my guess.

My guess is the borders are possibly back because full border cards can be cut at higher production rates, perhaps. Maybe 110 card sheets also result in less production time. Important thing this year.

gmoney328 · 03-20-2021, 10:41 AM

Hit a mother lode of this stuff last night at my Walmart. I said I was going to buy a Factory Set and some singles, but I just can't help myself.

Bought 4 of about 15 hangers. Left tons of fat packs there too. I'm not gonna go nuts. I left them for the flippers.

Found a Mountcastle and a Dalbec Rainbow Foil. Also pulled a Trout Independence Day out of /76. The Independence Day cards aren't that great IMO.

salthill · 03-20-2021, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Retail Fool

I'm not sure if this has been mentioned already, but is there a big difference in terms of quality between the hangers that DO NOT have those Bellinger cards, WM hangers, and WG hangers?

Got some hangers yesterday from Target that just say chance at auto or relic on the front right corner and they were brutal. I only pulled one parallel from two hangers - a rainbow foil.

Should be the same pack odds across them all. Just a bad run.

base set · 03-20-2021, 11:54 AM

My idea of how the SPs could be made is wrong on the idea of one card sheets though; those numbers would make 1,100 of each SP.

To make 44 of them, a row of 11 identical cards could be produced 4 times. But there would be 10 of those on a sheet. Easy enough to make 8 sheets for a 20 card checklist. To make 25? Create a third sheet with 5 cards, each with 2 rows.

So I still like the idea of 44 SSPs each.

Bizzydesigner · 03-20-2021, 01:00 PM

Found some Meijer purples yesterday. Nothing good in mine, should have bought more lol

The_Reverend · 03-20-2021, 01:04 PM

Found and opened 4 of the 20 pack mega boxes. Fun break at retail.

Kruk auto
Pache rainbow
Green parallel /499
Orange parallel /299 (Tatis)

soicanbefree · 03-20-2021, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by base set

My idea of how the SPs could be made is wrong on the idea of one card sheets though; those numbers would make 1,100 of each SP.

To make 44 of them, a row of 11 identical cards could be produced 4 times. But there would be 10 of those on a sheet. Easy enough to make 8 sheets for a 20 card checklist. To make 25? Create a third sheet with 5 cards, each with 2 rows.

So I still like the idea of 44 SSPs each.

For 110 card sheets the idea of 44 Ultra SSPS works. 5 X 44 = 220 / 110 = all the Ultra SSPS were printed on two sheets.

It works for the SSPs as well the real number is probably 330 of each or 3 sheets for each SSP in existence.

LVDan · 03-20-2021, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by gmoney328

Hit a mother lode of this stuff last night at my Walmart. I said I was going to buy a Factory Set and some singles, but I just can't help myself.

Bought 4 of about 15 hangers. Left tons of fat packs there too. I'm not gonna go nuts. I left them for the flippers.

Found a Mountcastle and a Dalbec Rainbow Foil. Also pulled a Trout Independence Day out of /76. The Independence Day cards aren't that great IMO.

I agree big time about the Indy look. Very bland compared to even 19 and especially 18.

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Rememberthepast · 03-20-2021, 04:10 PM

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I agree big time about the Indy look. Very bland compared to even 19 and especially 18.

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Mahomie · 03-20-2021, 05:40 PM

Pulled an Adell SSP out of a pack from Barnes and Noble earlier - didn't even realize they sold sports cards until today.

Bizzydesigner · 03-20-2021, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Mahomie

Pulled an Adell SSP out of a pack from Barnes and Noble earlier - didn't even realize they sold sports cards until today.

Nice!!

Bizzydesigner · 03-20-2021, 06:37 PM

My target randomly had a bunch of the $5 hanger fat packs this afternoon so I got two and wouldn’t you know, I hit a Bohm variation RC!

Mahomie · 03-20-2021, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Bizzydesigner

My target randomly had a bunch of the $5 hanger fat packs this afternoon so I got two and wouldn’t you know, I hit a Bohm variation RC!

Gotta love when you pick the right pack!

Retail Fool · 03-21-2021, 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by salthill

Should be the same pack odds across them all. Just a bad run.

It may be so. I opened a third a little earlier and got a gold, rainbow, and chrome redux. Neither was of anyone special, but good to know it's not all base.

JoeAdam · 03-21-2021, 08:46 AM

Do any of the rookies in this class have the potential to reach the Soto/Acuna/Tatis level? It doesn't feel like it, but maybe I'm being too critical of some of these guys.

marterburn · 03-21-2021, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by JoeAdam

Do any of the rookies in this class have the potential to reach the Soto/Acuna/Tatis level? It doesn't feel like it, but maybe I'm being too critical of some of these guys.

(Whole lotta IMO below)

Nope. Bohm could be a fantastic player, but he's a completely different type of player that's not something that'll quite make him have a super-high hobby ceiling. Nolan Arenado-lite is a decent way to describe his ceiling.

Also, Adell's best case scenario is Matt Kemp with less speed. Carlson's is something like Andrew McCutchen. So again, not guys that did/do VERY well in the hobby.

The one area where I may be wrong is if a true-ace pitcher develops. There are several of those guys. But those take years of MLB performance to get treated well by the hobby.

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03-20-2021, 03:23 AM	#2281
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03-20-2021, 01:00 PM	#2289
Bizzydesigner Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: IL Posts: 5,500 wantstobuystuff bizzydesigner	Found some Meijer purples yesterday. Nothing good in mine, should have bought more lol __________________ Luis Robert Collector / Funko Pop Collector WI Badgers / White Sox / Lions / Bulls

03-20-2021, 05:40 PM	#2294
Mahomie Member Join Date: Apr 2019 Posts: 4,467	Pulled an Adell SSP out of a pack from Barnes and Noble earlier - didn't even realize they sold sports cards until today. __________________ PC: Taylor Heise, Kia Nurse, Trinity Rodman, Grogu, Electric Bill

03-20-2021, 06:37 PM	#2296
Bizzydesigner Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: IL Posts: 5,500 wantstobuystuff bizzydesigner	My target randomly had a bunch of the $5 hanger fat packs this afternoon so I got two and wouldn’t you know, I hit a Bohm variation RC! __________________ Luis Robert Collector / Funko Pop Collector WI Badgers / White Sox / Lions / Bulls

03-21-2021, 08:46 AM	#2299
JoeAdam Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Illinois Posts: 5,004 sjoteo joeadam	Do any of the rookies in this class have the potential to reach the Soto/Acuna/Tatis level? It doesn't feel like it, but maybe I'm being too critical of some of these guys. __________________ @the_ace_of_cards on IG “You miss 100% of the shots you don’t take - Wayne Gretzky” - Michael Scott

03-19-2021, 05:19 PM	#2276
ryknow216 Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Californee way Posts: 1,874	Just bought 10 hangers for $16 a piece from SX so we'll see how that goes. Never bought from them before.

03-19-2021, 08:36 PM	#2280
RaceDog Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Posts: 2,342	I was lucky to get 2 cases of hangers at retail cost from an online dealer. These came in today and I ripped 1 case. These are the highlights. The best rookie parallel was an Andres Gimenez Rainbow Foil. I got between 10 and 14 of each RC. The Olivares auto is #'d /50. The Mize is a black #'s /299. The Clemens and Johnson are unnumbered blues.

03-20-2021, 07:31 AM	#2283
Retail Fool Member Join Date: Feb 2020 Posts: 390	I'm not sure if this has been mentioned already, but is there a big difference in terms of quality between the hangers that DO NOT have those Bellinger cards, WM hangers, and WG hangers? Got some hangers yesterday from Target that just say chance at auto or relic on the front right corner and they were brutal. I only pulled one parallel from two hangers - a rainbow foil.

03-20-2021, 09:45 AM	#2284
soicanbefree Member Join Date: Mar 2020 Posts: 719	First time trying to do pack math here: I have the total print run as about 311,044,800 cards. With 322 SSP and 44 for the SSSP print run. (per card) I mainly tried to do this because I wanted to know just how rare those Ultra SSPs were. I could have screwed up I'm not sure how to account for inserts when working off the Platinum odds.

03-20-2021, 10:28 AM	#2285
base set Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: NW Michigan Posts: 9,539	Well for the SSPs a number divisible by 11 looks good. 25 SSP x 44 copies = 1,100 cards / 110 card sheets = 10 sheets of each card. With a 330 card checklist it is clear that Topps went back to 110 card sheets now. So this can help figure out production #s by trying to check out how they could be produced based on the sheet size. But that would mean re-figuring your SP #s probably. 75 cards there, so probably also run via single card sheets would be my guess. My guess is the borders are possibly back because full border cards can be cut at higher production rates, perhaps. Maybe 110 card sheets also result in less production time. Important thing this year.

03-20-2021, 10:41 AM	#2286
gmoney328 Member Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: Navarre, Florida Posts: 4,197	Hit a mother lode of this stuff last night at my Walmart. I said I was going to buy a Factory Set and some singles, but I just can't help myself. Bought 4 of about 15 hangers. Left tons of fat packs there too. I'm not gonna go nuts. I left them for the flippers. Found a Mountcastle and a Dalbec Rainbow Foil. Also pulled a Trout Independence Day out of /76. The Independence Day cards aren't that great IMO.

03-20-2021, 11:54 AM	#2288
base set Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: NW Michigan Posts: 9,539	My idea of how the SPs could be made is wrong on the idea of one card sheets though; those numbers would make 1,100 of each SP. To make 44 of them, a row of 11 identical cards could be produced 4 times. But there would be 10 of those on a sheet. Easy enough to make 8 sheets for a 20 card checklist. To make 25? Create a third sheet with 5 cards, each with 2 rows. So I still like the idea of 44 SSPs each.

03-20-2021, 01:04 PM	#2290
The_Reverend Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Texas Posts: 15,437 islubi	Found and opened 4 of the 20 pack mega boxes. Fun break at retail. Kruk auto Pache rainbow Green parallel /499 Orange parallel /299 (Tatis)