PSA charging collectors based on DECLARED VALUE is a beotch move - Fight me.

Bronxbomma · 03-16-2021, 09:31 AM

I love their services but hate that fee structure. It’s highway robbery.

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ThoseBackPages · 03-16-2021, 09:34 AM

been that way for 30 years

griffan15 · 03-16-2021, 09:35 AM

Well, it’s for insurance purposes. We would all love to pay a $20 grading for for our $5000 cards, but you’ll get $100 in insurance when the UPS truck runs over your package.

asujbl · 03-16-2021, 09:35 AM

I have good news... Your flux capacitor works.

jw8 · 03-16-2021, 09:38 AM

Guessing your new here...this is the way they've always done. Don't like it, there are other TPGs.

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KhalDrogo · 03-16-2021, 09:38 AM

Hope you get banned already.

Triple B · 03-16-2021, 10:27 AM

Don’t bring a knife to a gun fight.

tonedef2oo8 · 03-16-2021, 10:48 AM

Simple solution to not pay these fees that have been like this for 30 years. It’s a bit hard to find this information online but I’ll share it .

Don’t use them .

psochaps · 03-16-2021, 10:50 AM

You have a choice!

SupermanBrandon · 03-16-2021, 11:02 AM

1st day in the hobby?

mcgoo2 · 03-16-2021, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by griffan15

Well, it’s for insurance purposes. We would all love to pay a $20 grading for for our $5000 cards, but you’ll get $100 in insurance when the UPS truck runs over your package.

They claim that insurance is covered in the return shipping they charge. And obviously you are responsible for insuring the package en route to PSA. I have a hard time believing that it costs that much to insure the cards while it's in their possession. The real reason they charge that much is because they can.

ucLAkers · 03-16-2021, 11:07 AM

When I saw the title of the thread I thought I was gonna see a 2007 timestamp bump....

sickmantz · 03-16-2021, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

been that way for 30 years

And? I've been lamenting it since the first day I knew of it. You like it?

It's a total scam. 95% of their pricing structure is meant to take a cut of every card they grade. The other 5% is service-oriented.

SupermanBrandon · 03-16-2021, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by sickmantz

And? I've been lamenting it since the first day I knew of it. You like it?

It's a total scam. 95% of their pricing structure is meant to take a cut of every card they grade. The other 5% is service-oriented.

I hear GMA/HGA is accepting submissions. You have a choice when spending YOUR money.

1989FF · 03-16-2021, 11:20 AM

I like a good fight....

Kinda like how sellers offering free shipping. It's not free. It's built in the price. Do not matter what they say the fee is for this or that. Your bottom line total cost is all that matters.

Grow up and pay what they're asking or don't.

'Merica.

GatorPie · 03-16-2021, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by mcgoo2

They claim that insurance is covered in the return shipping they charge. And obviously you are responsible for insuring the package en route to PSA. I have a hard time believing that it costs that much to insure the cards while it's in their possession. The real reason they charge that much is because they can.

Agreed. The "insurance" thing is total nonsense. But hey, if they can get it, more power to them. Supply and demand and all that.

mikejones · 03-16-2021, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Bronxbomma

I love their services but hate that fee structure. It’s highway robbery.

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Been slow today. We needed this.

mainerunr · 03-16-2021, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

Hope you get banned AGAIN already.

Fixed that for ya.

wonder which PBM it is this time...

HarryLime · 03-16-2021, 11:44 AM

You want the guy with 20 years experience grading your Mantle or the new guy who has only banged out a bulk sub of '88 Donruss so far?

Arthur

ucLAkers · 03-16-2021, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by 1989FF

I like a good fight....

Kinda like how sellers offering free shipping. It's not free. It's built in the price. Do not matter what they say the fee is for this or that. Your bottom line total cost is all that matters.

Grow up and pay what they're asking or don't.

'Merica.

I only buy from sellers that have the words PSA-10/Invest in the title & with $4.20 shipping...

Sometimes I even look for PWCC Vault listings that have $420.00 shipping...win win

IgnatiusJReilly · 03-16-2021, 11:45 AM

I find it extremely annoying when people end what they believe to be a "hot take" with "fight me" or "I'll wait". I would advocate for immediate ban!

2010GBPackers · 03-16-2021, 11:48 AM

You again?

pewe · 03-16-2021, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Bronxbomma

I love their services but hate that fee structure. It’s highway robbery.

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Everybody else seems to understand what your fury is over... but I’m confused.

What bothers you about PSA earning a fair share of the value they create for you?

And when you say “declared value”, you set that. So unless PSA up charges you, you can set your insurance level at whatever price and return pace you want.

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val47 · 03-16-2021, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by pewe

Everybody else seems to understand what your fury is over... but I’m confused.

What bothers you about PSA earning a fair share of the value they create for you?

And when you say “declared value”, you set that. So unless PSA up charges you, you can set your insurance level at whatever price and return pace you want.

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I was under the impression that you have to be accurate on the price of the cards as if they were going to be slabbed as a 10, regardless of condition

mcwildcats · 03-16-2021, 12:08 PM

Total newb when it comes to grading. What do you all base your declared value on? Do you assume the card grades a PSA 9 or 10? I assume it's better to just base it off of PSA 9 value because if you declare based on PSA 10 value, I would assume if the card grades a PSA 9 that PSA won't refund the difference. Is that right? I understand if you base off of PSA 9 value and it comes back a 10 they will come back to you and charge you more.

03-16-2021, 09:31 AM	#1
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03-16-2021, 09:35 AM	#3
griffan15 Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Sterling, VA Posts: 7,539 griffan15	Well, it’s for insurance purposes. We would all love to pay a $20 grading for for our $5000 cards, but you’ll get $100 in insurance when the UPS truck runs over your package.

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03-16-2021, 11:20 AM	#15
1989FF Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Bakersfield Posts: 2,425 ryans_rust	I like a good fight.... Kinda like how sellers offering free shipping. It's not free. It's built in the price. Do not matter what they say the fee is for this or that. Your bottom line total cost is all that matters. Grow up and pay what they're asking or don't. 'Merica.

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IgnatiusJReilly Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Newbury Park, CA Posts: 1,982 Stonethecrow34	I find it extremely annoying when people end what they believe to be a "hot take" with "fight me" or "I'll wait". I would advocate for immediate ban!

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03-16-2021, 12:08 PM	#25
mcwildcats Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Big Blue Nation Posts: 5,255	Total newb when it comes to grading. What do you all base your declared value on? Do you assume the card grades a PSA 9 or 10? I assume it's better to just base it off of PSA 9 value because if you declare based on PSA 10 value, I would assume if the card grades a PSA 9 that PSA won't refund the difference. Is that right? I understand if you base off of PSA 9 value and it comes back a 10 they will come back to you and charge you more.