One of the biggest trades @ Dallas Card Show

[Chris P]

Originally Posted by mc1

They must think only Lebron Exquisite RPAs, Gem Mint Jordans or High grade mantles are special.

Right?! Man my collection would suck big time I guess to them. Definitely don't run in the same circles as the high rollers here and that's fine..I just can't wrap my head around calling those two cards nothing special

[Eckstein197]

Originally Posted by ThePackLife

So dude spends two years of his life building up a youtube channel about sportscards and then goes off and trades his most valuable holdings for a pokemon card? Cool.

No hate either way... Just a little weird TBH.

These aren’t even close to Sasha’s best cards, he has a lot more valuable items

[TFP]

Wannabe influencer trades high end cards for something more expensive. Shocking.

As already mentioned, tougher to find TCG cards in mint condition since people actually played them and didn’t put them in Penny sleeves and top loaders. Similar reason why vintage cards are usually beat up.

It’s a good trade if his endgame is getting a rare card and more YouTube views, which seems to be working since he’s had multiple threads/mentions on these boards lately. If he’s happy with the trade, it’s his collection/next asset to flip.

I would’ve just bought a BGS 9.5, but I guess it’s not as big of a flex as a PSA 10.

[ThePackLife]

Originally Posted by Eckstein197

These aren’t even close to Sasha’s best cards, he has a lot more valuable items

Honestly, it's not even about the deal. My post was made specifically about the content creator aspect and the youtube side of things. What I posted was definitely misunderstood so don't even pay me no mind. Was just thinking aloud TBH.

[asujbl]

Originally Posted by LincecumPC

I feel like if Lebron or Kobe saw this thread they’d want to beat the crap out of charizard in one on one.

This made me laugh

[GeechQuest]

Originally Posted by Chris P

I mean to each their own, but how isn't a serial numbered X-Fractor Chrome Lebron RC or a 1st year Kobe Exquisite Auto Patch not special? It's not like the guy traded off a bunch of Kobe Base Rookies for it. And like I said for the record it's always great to trade up to a better card..but calling them nothing special..is acting like any joe schmoe can just get one for nothing

I get the other side too, for the record.

One is just a graded common base card. That’s nothing special.

One was a box topper. It’s not a pack pulled card. While it is low numbered, there is a reason the black /500 sells for more. Some card rules are weird, but generally accepted.

The Kobe is a nice patch auto, from a well received master set, but the Patches Auto are generally regarded as the “worst” from that Exquisite set. Kobe has 5 different patch autos in 03/04 Exquisite, and the one traded for is generally regarded as the worst of the 5.

I’m saying if we take values out of everything, it’s essentially a trade for the best Pokémon card in the best grade for a base card, the worst Lebron chrome rookie parallel, and the worst patch auto of Kobe from 03/04 Exquisite.

Trying to put it in modern Panini card terms:

-Luka base
-Luka Fast Break Prizm parallel
-Curry Immaculate FOTL Premium Edition Patch Auto

Traded for a 2012 Lebron Prizm Gold.

The values may line up, but the cards themselves are in no way similar if that makes sense?

[Eckstein197]

Also Charizard is still big nowadays, even the modern sets most of them have Charizard chase cards. Shining fates was released last month and the number 1 card is a Charizard

Charizard is the MJ of Pokémon when comparing it to basketball

Even today he’s still the chase

[Chris P]

Originally Posted by GeechQuest

I get the other side too, for the record.

One is just a graded common base card. That’s nothing special.

One was a box topper. It’s not a pack pulled card. While it is low numbered, there is a reason the black /500 sells for more. Some card rules are weird, but generally accepted.

The Kobe is a nice patch auto, from a well received master set, but the Patches Auto are generally regarded as the “worst” from that Exquisite set. Kobe has 5 different patch autos in 03/04 Exquisite, and the one traded for is generally regarded as the worst of the 5.

I’m saying if we take values out of everything, it’s essentially a trade for the best Pokémon card in the best grade for a base card, the worst Lebron chrome rookie parallel, and the worst patch auto of Kobe from 03/04 Exquisite.

Trying to put it in modern Panini card terms:

-Luka base
-Luka Fast Break Prizm parallel
-Curry Immaculate FOTL Premium Edition Patch Auto

Traded for a 2012 Lebron Prizm Gold.

The values may line up, but the cards themselves are in no way similar if that makes sense?

No i get it..like i said the Charizard is hands the best card of the deal..he traded up...i just dont get agree with the "nothing special" verbage for two of the three cards thats all.

[Orangejello727]

Originally Posted by asujbl

What the hell is a Charizard

I assume half lizard and half a dude named Charlie?

Aren't you going to add your toe line "keep 30% aside for being a model citizen and declaring your deemed disposition in this bater"?? Where are all those pro model upstanding citizen advocating to pay your fair share of taxes now?

[bloodwings19]

Sasha wins. Getting the best ever card in the gaming industry is like getting a 1986 Fleer Michael Jordan PSA 10. I believe the trade was made because of the $100K. I seriously doubt anyone would trade that Charizard, card for cards. Both are winners, if the owner can make that $100K grow bigger. Sasha's best line "If you keep everything, you'll go broke."

[sebreg]

I would never say those brons and kobe are bad cards. If I had requisite funds just wouldn't chase those particular ones (many other high-ends I'd prefer), so the interest isn't high for me even if the valuations are.

[MIRRABB]

Originally Posted by Orangejello727

Aren't you going to add your toe line "keep 30% aside for being a model citizen and declaring your deemed disposition in this bater"?? Where are all those pro model upstanding citizen advocating to pay your fair share of taxes now?

[asujbl]

Originally Posted by Orangejello727

Aren't you going to add your toe line "keep 30% aside for being a model citizen and declaring your deemed disposition in this bater"?? Where are all those pro model upstanding citizen advocating to pay your fair share of taxes now?

Would be the smart play

Especially since this person isn’t a poor.

[ljandkg]

Who's Sasha T?

Is he the next Gary V?

[GeechQuest]

Originally Posted by Orangejello727

Aren't you going to add your toe line "keep 30% aside for being a model citizen and declaring your deemed disposition in this bater"?? Where are all those pro model upstanding citizen advocating to pay your fair share of taxes now?

Originally Posted by asujbl

Would be the smart play

Especially since this person isn’t a poor.

Hard to pick a winner in this trade.

[MyckKabongo]

"Most important gaming card ever"

VERY DEBATABLE

PSA 10 Alpha Black Lotus (Pop 7 ) sold for $100,000 more just last month. An awful lot of us older millenials and Gen Xers would much rather have the MTG card. MTG is of course historically important as the original TCG. Pokemon is and always will be kiddie stuff while Magic is one of the greatest games ever created. Many a millionaire tech entrepreneur or wall street shark came up learning strategy and quant skills from MTG.

"Highest Grossing Media Franchise Ever"

This doesn't pass the smell test. Sure enough I looked and the original source of this is Wikipedia. That doesn't pass muster. Nobody would seriously give Pokemon a higher valuation than Star Wars, Marvel, Mickey Mouse & Friends.

Carry on folks, but it's driving me nuts seeing these repeated all over here and instagram.

[kevin2323]

YIKES

SashaT made out like a bandit. holy smokes.

[kench61]

Nice to see the trade post, very interesting for someone getting back into the hobby plus was a Pokemon fan back in the day.

Random uninformed question, back in the day, was the PSA 10 first edition Charizard holo obtainable? To clarify, was this one of the cards that people would sell on the Home Shopping network (I know dated reference).

I distinctly remember when a Charizard was $100 card which at the time was an "insane" price. Was that the price for the holo or a non-holo Charizard? Just really curious.

Also for the trade, I think others have mentioned it as well, but my understanding is Sasha is in this purely to make money (I don't follow, but from what little I've seen). In that case as others have mentioned, whose to say the Charizard would be kept long term. If someone offered him $50K - $100K more in value today than what he just gave up, I'd expect he'd make the deal regardless of card rarity.

Also for the other side $100K in cash (which was probably way more than what his cost basis was - speculation of course) plus the Lebrons/Kobe probably made it easy for him to sell/trade. Unless he was going to auction it off, where else is he/she going to get 6 figures so probably win/win for both sides.

[BeastMode27]

Isn’t that the Kobe that was just shown on here as magically bumped from 8.5 to 9.5. Of course he wants to get rid of it.

[jcardstore]

Originally Posted by kench61

Nice to see the trade post, very interesting for someone getting back into the hobby plus was a Pokemon fan back in the day.

Random uninformed question, back in the day, was the PSA 10 first edition Charizard holo obtainable? To clarify, was this one of the cards that people would sell on the Home Shopping network (I know dated reference).

I distinctly remember when a Charizard was $100 card which at the time was an "insane" price. Was that the price for the holo or a non-holo Charizard? Just really curious.

Also for the trade, I think others have mentioned it as well, but my understanding is Sasha is in this purely to make money (I don't follow, but from what little I've seen). In that case as others have mentioned, whose to say the Charizard would be kept long term. If someone offered him $50K - $100K more in value today than what he just gave up, I'd expect he'd make the deal regardless of card rarity.

Also for the other side $100K in cash (which was probably way more than what his cost basis was - speculation of course) plus the Lebrons/Kobe probably made it easy for him to sell/trade. Unless he was going to auction it off, where else is he/she going to get 6 figures so probably win/win for both sides.

The 1st Ed Holos were rarely available the PSA10s have always been basically unobtainable. I remember there was one collector who owned like 20-30% of the entire Holo charizard PSA10 POP.

It’s one of those cards that’s just so iconic it rarely ever becomes available

[Eckstein197]

Originally Posted by MyckKabongo

"Most important gaming card ever"

VERY DEBATABLE

PSA 10 Alpha Black Lotus (Pop 7 ) sold for $100,000 more just last month. An awful lot of us older millenials and Gen Xers would much rather have the MTG card. MTG is of course historically important as the original TCG. Pokemon is and always will be kiddie stuff while Magic is one of the greatest games ever created. Many a millionaire tech entrepreneur or wall street shark came up learning strategy and quant skills from MTG.

"Highest Grossing Media Franchise Ever"

This doesn't pass the smell test. Sure enough I looked and the original source of this is Wikipedia. That doesn't pass muster. Nobody would seriously give Pokemon a higher valuation than Star Wars, Marvel, Mickey Mouse & Friends.

Carry on folks, but it's driving me nuts seeing these repeated all over here and instagram.

There’s more than just Wikipedia

https://www.visualcapitalist.com/suc...ia-franchises/
https://medium.com/@atultalaviya9/po...t-13ab4ec54d72
https://www.google.com/amp/s/comicbo...dia-franchise/

Also all of the sources from the Wikipedia document themselves. Just because you don’t agree, doesn’t mean it’s true. I’d rather trust all of the sources than your “smell test”

Pokémon has had cards, video games, movies, merch for 25 years now.

Also if MTG was so important than why are the valuations so low compared to Pokémon? Wouldn’t those people be buying up MTG?

[kevin2323]

Originally Posted by jcardstore

The 1st Ed Holos were rarely available the PSA10s have always been basically unobtainable. I remember there was one collector who owned like 20-30% of the entire Holo charizard PSA10 POP.

It’s one of those cards that’s just so iconic it rarely ever becomes available

exactly. people in this thread have no idea about pokemon because pokemon is global and here they are just focused on basketball.

i'll just say this. If Jordan Fleer 86 becomes a million dollar card, Charizard will probably already be there by then or shortly after.

[eastbayak]

Good trade for SashaT IMO.

Last PSA 10 Charizard on Goldin sold for $400k.

Once we remove the valuation of $100k cash and 03-04 TC PSA 10 ($27.6k per 3/13 eBay sale), it's basically a $272.4k (liquid) trade for a 03-04 Exquisite Kobe patch auto and 03-04 TC Xfractor LeBron BGS 9.

I don't know what the Kobe is worth but I don't place a lot of value on it either. One without a good patch sold for $26.2k on 2/21. Regarding the 03-04 TC Xfractor PSA 9, there was a 1/31 eBay sale for a PSA 9 for $128.3k. A lot changed over the past 1.5 months for the 03-04 TC LeBron market but it's also a PSA 9 (vs. BGS 9) too. And if I remember correctly, he made a deal with meelypops for the Xfractor (think he's into the card for about $70-80k worth of either cash and/or cards).

Anyway, from his initial investment, he's done fantastic. In terms of future outlook, it really depends on how the Xfractor performs. We know that the Charizard is one of the gaming card holy grails. It'll be fun to check back on valuation in a few years once LeBron retires.

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by MyckKabongo

"Most important gaming card ever"

VERY DEBATABLE

PSA 10 Alpha Black Lotus (Pop 7 ) sold for $100,000 more just last month. An awful lot of us older millenials and Gen Xers would much rather have the MTG card. MTG is of course historically important as the original TCG. Pokemon is and always will be kiddie stuff while Magic is one of the greatest games ever created. Many a millionaire tech entrepreneur or wall street shark came up learning strategy and quant skills from MTG.

"Highest Grossing Media Franchise Ever"

This doesn't pass the smell test. Sure enough I looked and the original source of this is Wikipedia. That doesn't pass muster. Nobody would seriously give Pokemon a higher valuation than Star Wars, Marvel, Mickey Mouse & Friends.

Carry on folks, but it's driving me nuts seeing these repeated all over here and instagram.

You are right about MTG, but wrong about Pokemon not being the highest grossing media franchise. Pokémon took the throne a year and a half ago. Can’t imagine what the lead is now.

[MyckKabongo]

Originally Posted by Eckstein197

There’s more than just Wikipedia

https://www.visualcapitalist.com/suc...ia-franchises/
https://medium.com/@atultalaviya9/po...t-13ab4ec54d72
https://www.google.com/amp/s/comicbo...dia-franchise/

Also all of the sources from the Wikipedia document themselves. Just because you don’t agree, doesn’t mean it’s true. I’d rather trust all of the sources than your “smell test”

Pokémon has had cards, video games, movies, merch for 25 years now.

Also if MTG was so important than why are the valuations so low compared to Pokémon? Wouldn’t those people be buying up MTG?

All of those links cite Wikipedia as their source.

How are MTG valuations low when the PSA 10 Alpha Black Lotus has $500,00 sale compared to $400k for the Zard?