Topps Project 2020 is the worst product since 1991 Fleer - Page 2902

Oliroller · 03-09-2021, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by 1977 Cloth

I am a "small market" team fan of the A's. We have a Henderson and Reggie so far. I expect some more from both and probably a McGwire and Conseco. It would be nice to get Jimmy Foxx and maybe Vida Blue, Rollie Fingers, Dave Stewart, or Catfish Hunter (natural could do an other companion like Trout.)

Vida Blue by Blue the Great would be awesome...….someone contact him

JRX · 03-09-2021, 10:22 AM

I mean he played about 70 games for the Yankees, I can't imagine why people associate him more with Braves and Reds

Shinjoy · 03-09-2021, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Oliroller

I blame Topps a lot for creating this mess and criticism. Each artist submitted their list of guys up front. Why are they frontloading the set with repeat P2020 players that we just got done seeing 20 cards each of? This isn't entirely an artist issue. The lack of variety and teams is really rubbing a lot of folks the wrong way.

There are 51 artist sets. The artists should start with someone that they and their fans connect to in order to get people interested in their set.

McCormick said in his IG post that Ripken was one of his favorite players growing up: why should he choose somebody that's less meaningful and recognizable? Don C used Deion's 1990 Topps, which is by far and away his most iconic Topps card. It doesn't make sense for him to use a Braves or Reds card that few people remember (plus, the Braves have plenty of cards in this set). Jackie is Jackie: I have no problem with someone giving us another Jackie over Larry Doby.

The Accountant · 03-09-2021, 10:26 AM

Artists have to think they're getting a leg up by using Yankees uni, but that Deion would've sold way better in Braves uni.

ThoseBackPages · 03-09-2021, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Shinjoy

There are 51 artist sets. The artists should start with someone that they and their fans connect to in order to get people interested in their set.

McCormick said in his IG post that Ripken was one of his favorite players growing up: why should he choose somebody that's less meaningful and recognizable? Don C used Deion's 1990 Topps, which is by far and away his most iconic Topps card. It doesn't make sense for him to use a Braves or Reds card that few people remember (plus, the Braves have plenty of cards in this set). Jackie is Jackie: I have no problem with someone giving us another Jackie over Larry Doby.

it is?

1000 Sport Zonk · 03-09-2021, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by JRX

I mean he played about 70 games for the Yankees, I can't imagine why people associate him more with Braves and Reds

I associate him with the Braves. But the Don C card is 100% for his own through line with the track "Primetime", the album art that had that track, and NYC. I like that thought process personally, but the quality of the execution is obviously up to debate!

Oliroller · 03-09-2021, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Shinjoy

There are 51 artist sets. The artists should start with someone that they and their fans connect to in order to get people interested in their set.

McCormick said in his IG post that Ripken was one of his favorite players growing up: why should he choose somebody that's less meaningful and recognizable? Don C used Deion's 1990 Topps, which is by far and away his most iconic Topps card. It doesn't make sense for him to use a Braves or Reds card that few people remember (plus, the Braves have plenty of cards in this set). Jackie is Jackie: I have no problem with someone giving us another Jackie over Larry Doby.

We can agree to disagree here

ThoseBackPages · 03-09-2021, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by 1000 Sport Zonk

I associate him with the Braves. But the Don C card is 100% for his own through line with the track "Primetime", the album art that had that track, and NYC. I like that thought process personally, but the quality of the execution is obviously up to debate!

then use his 89 Topps Traded Jerry Curl Goodness card

DioBrando · 03-09-2021, 10:31 AM

I'm surprised at the number of artists who have used 1990 Topps for their design. It's grown on me over the years, I hated it as a kid. Never thought of it as that popular a design

Shinjoy · 03-09-2021, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

it is?

Either this, or 89 TT, but that's traded. And, he's still in a Yankees uni so people would have the same complaint.

Looking at his cards, the only other card that might have worked would be 1992 Topps, but he's wearing a batting helmet, squinting, and not looking as bad @$$, so the card would look worse.

ThoseBackPages · 03-09-2021, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Shinjoy

Either this, or 89 TT, but that's traded. And, he's still in a Yankees uni so people would have the same complaint.

Looking at his cards, the only other card that might have worked would be 1992 Topps, but he's wearing a batting helmet, squinting, and not looking as bad @$$, so the card would look worse.

well people should complain, as its a rip off at $20

1000 Sport Zonk · 03-09-2021, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Shinjoy

Either this, or 89 TT, but that's traded. And, he's still in a Yankees uni so people would have the same complaint.

Looking at his cards, the only other card that might have worked would be 1992 Topps, but he's wearing a batting helmet, squinting, and not looking as bad @$$, so the card would look worse.

Yeah I dont see any difference between using the Deion Topps Traded 89 card or his 90 card. I think Dons execution would have been identical, and the 90 card has pinstripes rather than him in some pull-over.

ThoseBackPages · 03-09-2021, 10:36 AM

i agree that both cards should have been rejected by Topps

Oliroller · 03-09-2021, 10:39 AM

Don C didn't have to use a specific card image. This isn't P2020. He could have used ANY image of Deion in a Braves or Reds uniform and put it on the 1990 background. I still think it would be cool for Blake to put McGwire in an A's uniform and use his 1985 Olympic team card background.....the opposite of his P2020 card. i wouldn't be upset with Blake doing McGwire again because that is his favorite player and I think that idea would be awesome with the P2020 card.

StonedCollector · 03-09-2021, 10:41 AM

i honestly think he was going for infant and not bear on the yogi.
looks more like an infant than a bear, and if you were going for a bear reference, wouldn't you include a pic-a-nic basket?

what came first, the bear or the berra? lol

JRX · 03-09-2021, 10:42 AM

During character development, several names such as Bumpkin Bear, Yucca Bear and Huckleberry Bear were considered, but didn't quite click with either Hanna or Barbera--until the name of New York Yankees star (Lawrence) "Yogi" Berra came up; in time, such would be adopted.

StonedCollector · 03-09-2021, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by JRX

During character development, several names such as Bumpkin Bear, Yucca Bear and Huckleberry Bear were considered, but didn't quite click with either Hanna or Barbera--until the name of New York Yankees star (Lawrence) "Yogi" Berra came up; in time, such would be adopted.

you actually answered the question. thank you.
i remember looking at becketts as a kid and seeing the 48 leaf yogi berra and always wondered if the bear was named after him or just coincidence.

JRX · 03-09-2021, 10:51 AM

I got that from the wiki

StonedCollector · 03-09-2021, 11:02 AM

am i the only person that kinda likes the deon?
i kinda figured we would see don c as card 51 as a troll by topps.
i want a proper neon deon though.

agree he should be in braves uni, but whatever.

excited for thursday to get here and see all the artist. i feel like we need a break, topps should take a week off before round 2. i need some of those jessie spano pills or something.

PDCCollectibles · 03-09-2021, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Shinjoy

Either this, or 89 TT, but that's traded. And, he's still in a Yankees uni so people would have the same complaint.

Looking at his cards, the only other card that might have worked would be 1992 Topps, but he's wearing a batting helmet, squinting, and not looking as bad @$$, so the card would look worse.

I'd go with 1990 Upper Deck as his most recognized...unless we are just talking about Topps do to P70.

ThoseBackPages · 03-09-2021, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by StonedCollector

am i the only person that kinda likes the deon?
i kinda figured we would see don c as card 51 as a troll by topps.
i want a proper neon deon though.

agree he should be in braves uni, but whatever.

excited for thursday to get here and see all the artist. i feel like we need a break, topps should take a week off before round 2. i need some of those jessie spano pills or something.

stay stoned

aeast317 · 03-09-2021, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by StonedCollector

am i the only person that kinda likes the deon?
i kinda figured we would see don c as card 51 as a troll by topps.
i want a proper neon deon though.

agree he should be in braves uni, but whatever.

excited for thursday to get here and see all the artist. i feel like we need a break, topps should take a week off before round 2. i need some of those jessie spano pills or something.

I like the Deion a lot! The Watch the Throne background is cool. I agree that I wish it wasn't a Yankees uni. I'm sure we will see Deon in some other unis in this set. I think a lot of artists do a Deon card, especially the artists from the hip hop/graffiti/streetwear/sneaker sector of p70.

Oliroller · 03-09-2021, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by aeast317

I like the Deon a lot! The Watch the Throne background is cool. I agree that I wish it wasn't a Yankees uni. I'm sure we will see Deon in some other unis in this set. I think a lot of artists do a Deon card, especially the artists from the hip hop/graffiti/streetwear/sneaker sector of p70.

2 Legit 2 Quit

Farmkid · 03-09-2021, 11:13 AM

This "hobby" is all about Rookie Cards, so all complaints that Sanders is in a Yankees Uniform are moot.

-signed, Not a Yankees Fan either.

aeast317 · 03-09-2021, 11:16 AM

"Primetime" is on Watch the Throne, Jay-Z is synonymous with Yankees hats. It fits.
If you like Deion, and you like hip hop, you'll like this card.
If not, it isn't for you. And that's okay. It's a big set.

03-09-2021, 10:26 AM	#72529
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ThoseBackPages Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 90,660 ThoseBackPages	i agree that both cards should have been rejected by Topps __________________ Pumpers Paradise #YouCryIBuy Four things that we cannot change each others minds about: Politics, Religion, Third Party Grading, and 2021 Bowman's Best Rookie Cards

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Farmkid Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: Albany, NY Posts: 283	This "hobby" is all about Rookie Cards, so all complaints that Sanders is in a Yankees Uniform are moot. -signed, Not a Yankees Fan either. __________________ ------------------------------------------------ T206: One set to rule them all!

03-09-2021, 10:22 AM	#72527
JRX Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 16,069	I mean he played about 70 games for the Yankees, I can't imagine why people associate him more with Braves and Reds

03-09-2021, 10:39 AM	#72539
Oliroller Member Join Date: Aug 2020 Posts: 4,031	Don C didn't have to use a specific card image. This isn't P2020. He could have used ANY image of Deion in a Braves or Reds uniform and put it on the 1990 background. I still think it would be cool for Blake to put McGwire in an A's uniform and use his 1985 Olympic team card background.....the opposite of his P2020 card. i wouldn't be upset with Blake doing McGwire again because that is his favorite player and I think that idea would be awesome with the P2020 card.

03-09-2021, 10:41 AM	#72540
StonedCollector Member Join Date: Jan 2021 Posts: 679	i honestly think he was going for infant and not bear on the yogi. looks more like an infant than a bear, and if you were going for a bear reference, wouldn't you include a pic-a-nic basket? what came first, the bear or the berra? lol

03-09-2021, 10:42 AM	#72541
JRX Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 16,069	During character development, several names such as Bumpkin Bear, Yucca Bear and Huckleberry Bear were considered, but didn't quite click with either Hanna or Barbera--until the name of New York Yankees star (Lawrence) "Yogi" Berra came up; in time, such would be adopted.

03-09-2021, 10:51 AM	#72543
JRX Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 16,069	I got that from the wiki

03-09-2021, 11:02 AM	#72544
StonedCollector Member Join Date: Jan 2021 Posts: 679	am i the only person that kinda likes the deon? i kinda figured we would see don c as card 51 as a troll by topps. i want a proper neon deon though. agree he should be in braves uni, but whatever. excited for thursday to get here and see all the artist. i feel like we need a break, topps should take a week off before round 2. i need some of those jessie spano pills or something.

03-09-2021, 11:16 AM	#72550
aeast317 Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 488	"Primetime" is on Watch the Throne, Jay-Z is synonymous with Yankees hats. It fits. If you like Deion, and you like hip hop, you'll like this card. If not, it isn't for you. And that's okay. It's a big set.