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[Akphillips86]

Originally Posted by BlueXtreme

That is why he should start shooting the open 3's when he has them. He cannot shoot much worse than the overall team is right now on open 3's. I bet you he hits more, actually.

Also, having guys like Kira who can also penetrate and create lanes and NAW who is at least somewhat a threat over a guy like Bledsoe to hit a 3 should get more PT. Granted NAW has been bad. So I can see argument against it. But maybe if he had consistent playing time, that wouldn't be the case. At least get Kira in there.

NAW had a couple good games and then has squandered all of his opportunities that he earned. I can see the potential in Kira, but I don’t think he’s the answer even in the long term. They need knockdown SHOOTERS badly so they can play the inside-outside game.

I do actually think Zion would knock down open threes better than many of his teammates. Any time the ball is in his hands the defense back pedals and immediately looks to seal off any angle to the basket (and many times the defense just looks terrified and on edge to be honest).

While currently, I wouldn’t mind him taking a few more open threes, it would still be far more beneficial to have threats spaced out on the floor rather than allowing defenses to keep 80 percent of the focus on Zion. If he starts knocking them down, the defense won’t be able to sag as much, but it would still be better to have guys out on the wing that could catch and shoot. This spreads out the floor and gives Zion someone to kick to so defenses can’t cheat on him so much without getting punished.

Ingram can shoot but honestly seems to lack awareness for where his teammates are at times (or just doesn’t care) and likes to put a lot of his shots up off the dribble. They need more ball movement around the perimeter and less iso from people not named Zion (Zion in iso is almost a guaranteed bucket so I have no problem with him taking on literally any defender).

Ball movement creates opportunities for shooters as well as opening up the drive for Zion. Imagine Zion flanked by the Jazz’s shooters. That team would be an unstoppable offensive juggernaut.


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[BlueXtreme]

Originally Posted by Akphillips86

NAW had a couple good games and then has squandered all of his opportunities that he earned. I can see the potential in Kira, but I don’t think he’s the answer even in the long term. They need knockdown SHOOTERS badly so they can play the inside-outside game.

I do actually think Zion would knock down open threes better than many of his teammates. Any time the ball is in his hands the defense back pedals and immediately looks to seal off any angle to the basket (and many times the defense just looks terrified and on edge to be honest).

While currently, I wouldn’t mind him taking a few more open threes, it would still be far more beneficial to have threats spaced out on the floor rather than allowing defenses to keep 80 percent of the focus on Zion. If he starts knocking them down, the defense won’t be able to sag as much, but it would still be better to have guys out on the wing that could catch and shoot. This spreads out the floor and gives Zion someone to kick to so defenses can’t cheat on him so much without getting punished.

Ingram can shoot but honestly seems to lack awareness for where his teammates are at times (or just doesn’t care) and likes to put a lot of his shots up off the dribble. They need more ball movement around the perimeter and less iso from people not named Zion (Zion in iso is almost a guaranteed bucket so I have no problem with him taking on literally any defender).

Ball movement creates opportunities for shooters as well as opening up the drive for Zion. Imagine Zion flanked by the Jazz’s shooters. That team would be an unstoppable offensive juggernaut.


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I agree. But they don't have any sharp shooters right now. And when better for him to shoot 3's, work on it and build confidence.
I don't think Kira is the answer long term. Or NAW. But neither is Bledsoe. Kira creates more havoc than Bledsoe with his energy. He gets into tight spaces. It gives the defense another guy to watch getting to the hoop.
They also lack ball movement as well. Lack of a good coach.

But they do have Zion

[blackandgold]

Wow-can’t believe you 2 have already given up on Kira Very small sample size to say he’s not gonna be the future I see a guy a threat in transition, steals the ball, can get some creative dimes and shoots from 3 decently-better than NAW

[Akphillips86]

Originally Posted by blackandgold

Wow-can’t believe you 2 have already given up on Kira Very small sample size to say he’s not gonna be the future I see a guy a threat in transition, steals the ball, can get some creative dimes and shoots from 3 decently-better than NAW

I’m not giving up on Kira, I actually really like his potential. With that being said, I just don’t think Kira’s development is going to be the missing piece of the puzzle for the Pelicans. Let him develop and ABSOLUTELY give him more minutes than Bledsoe, but they need a couple knockdown SHOOTERS.

Their perimeter shooting is abysmal and nothing would be more beneficial in the long run than acquiring some shooters to allow Zion to inflict maximum damage on offense. His assist numbers would likely double if he had a GTJ, Hield, Duncan Robinson, Seth Curry, Bogdanovic, Ingles etc. just waiting for the kick out when defenses collapse on him in the paint.


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[blackandgold]

Originally Posted by Akphillips86

I’m not giving up on Kira, I actually really like his potential. With that being said, I just don’t think Kira’s development is going to be the missing piece of the puzzle for the Pelicans. Let him develop and ABSOLUTELY give him more minutes than Bledsoe, but they need a couple knockdown SHOOTERS.

Their perimeter shooting is abysmal and nothing would be more beneficial in the long run than acquiring some shooters to allow Zion to inflict maximum damage on offense. His assist numbers would likely double if he had a GTJ, Hield, Duncan Robinson, Seth Curry, Bogdanovic, Ingles etc. just waiting for the kick out when defenses collapse on him in the paint.


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I agree on the shooters. Kira to me is a true point guard. His energy is much like that of Hart which the team needs dramatically. I don’t know I still can’t give up on Lonzo so maybe I’m just tormenting myself lol