1993/94 Upper Deck Golden Grahams

kukocitb · 02-16-2021, 09:26 AM

About as odd as you can get when it comes to Upper Deck. There are 4 versions of these cards. Golden Grahams French, Golden Grahams Italian, Golden Grahams Portuguese, and Golden Grahams Spanish. There is NOT a Golden Grahams German version as far as I am aware and I have done a lot of digging and have found no historical sales on Ebay. Again I could be wrong, but hear me now believe me later LOL! I have chatted with multiple dealers who have owned and sold these cards and they agree with what I am saying. I was not aware of these cards for the longest time. These can be VERY difficult to track down. I was lucky enough to locate the French and Italian from a Kukoc collector who was selling his collection.

How are these different then your base Upper Deck card?
1. The Card Number. US, Foreign, and Golden Grahams Foreign releases all have different numbers.
2. A majority of the text on the card is in a different language. The first paragraph below the picture is in English. This is usually the easiest way to tell if it is a US or foreign release.
3. Some other Upper Deck/Collector’s Choice foreign editions differ by printed in EU, but these are all printed in the USA.
4. How can you tell the difference between a French and a French Golden Grahams? The number of the card.
a. Front of the card looks the same:

b. US version back #: 299

c. Foreign Version back #: 157
i. French

ii. German

iii. Italian

iv. Spanish

d. Golden Grahams Version back #: 5
i. French

ii. Italian

iii. Portuguese

iv. Spanish

Checklist:
1. Charles Barkley
2. Alonzo Mourning
3. Billy Owens
4. Patrick Ewing
5. Toni Kukoc
6. Hakeem Olajuwon
7. Dan Majerle
8. Larry Johnson
9. John Stockton
10. Christian Laettner
11. Dominique Wilkins
12. Detlef Schrempf
13. Shawn Kemp
14. Derrick Coleman
15. Shaquille O’Neal
16. Clyde Drexler
17. David Robinson
18. Tom Gugliotta
19. Mark Price
20. Sean Elliott
21. Reggie Miller
22. Todd Day
23. Mitch Richmond
24. Jim Jackson
25. Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf
26. Danny Manning
27. Doug Christie
28. Chris Webber
29. Anfernee Hardaway
30. Karl Malone
31. Jamal Mashburn
32. Shawn Bradley
33. Dino Radja
34. Ken Norman
35. Harold Miner
36. John Starks
37. Dale Ellis
38. Glen Rice
39. Clarence Weatherspoon
40. Dee Brown

If this is helpful please let me know. Thinking about covering other Collector’s Choice/Upper Deck foreign variations if people are interested.

OddityCards · 02-16-2021, 09:29 AM

Love it. Still trying to get Beckett checklists right for all the versions and variations of ud/udcc/fleer/panini Int'l.

kukocitb · 02-16-2021, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by OddityCards

Love it. Still trying to get Beckett checklists right for all the versions and variations of ud/udcc/fleer/panini Int'l.

oh I bet! You have helped me figure this out too!

frisbeesteve · 02-17-2021, 01:35 AM

I love that Golden Grahams cereal box! Thanks for the write-up on the cards as well, I had barely learned myself about the German version not existing as well.

Jasondr91 · 02-17-2021, 07:16 AM

Excellent write up here sir. I never knew these existed. No Rodman? No thanks. Interesting checklist, totally early 90s.

byronscott4ever · 02-17-2021, 09:20 AM

If you write about one language version of UD per day, you’ll be done when Zion is retired

kukocitb · 02-17-2021, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by frisbeesteve

I love that Golden Grahams cereal box! Thanks for the write-up on the cards as well, I had barely learned myself about the German version not existing as well.

Glad you enjoyed it and that is was informative! Glad to have completed it!

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Originally Posted by Jasondr91

Excellent write up here sir. I never knew these existed. No Rodman? No thanks. Interesting checklist, totally early 90s.

Is this ikelove500's burner account? Kidding mods!

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Originally Posted by byronscott4ever

If you write about one language version of UD per day, you’ll be done when Zion is retired

EXACTLY! Also Zion has more cards his rookie year than Kukoc does TOTAL LOL! Cannot imagine chasing him.

sportzking · 02-17-2021, 01:22 PM

Interesting, never knew about the set. Have to add a David Robinson on to my checklist.

iluvfish2 · 02-17-2021, 01:37 PM

Thanks for the write up and history lesson! Never knew about these..but the picture help a ton trying to reference these! May I get lucky one day and find one or a few in my bulk base!

Deadshot · 02-17-2021, 01:54 PM

This is a great reference Jeff! Thanks for sharing!

kukocitb · 02-17-2021, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by sportzking

Interesting, never knew about the set. Have to add a David Robinson on to my checklist.

Just don't add German since it wasn't made. They are TOUGH to find, but good luck with your search!

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Originally Posted by iluvfish2

Thanks for the write up and history lesson! Never knew about these..but the picture help a ton trying to reference these! May I get lucky one day and find one or a few in my bulk base!

Usually my photos stink so I am glad they helped! Let me know if you have additional questions

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Originally Posted by Deadshot

This is a great reference Jeff! Thanks for sharing!

Thanks for looking it over. I know way more about cardboard then a normal person should LOL!

volblorx8634 · 02-17-2021, 03:44 PM

Awesome info, thanks for sharing! This oddball stuff is what needs more light shed on it!

kukocitb · 02-17-2021, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by volblorx8634

Awesome info, thanks for sharing! This oddball stuff is what needs more light shed on it!

oh I agree! With new stuff you can find the checklist anywhere. Older stuff most checklists don't exist so you have to pull from different resources to find a correct list. Makes me wonder if some of the cards I am searching for do not exist.

OddityCards · 02-17-2021, 05:06 PM

Talk about weird UD/UDCC maybe should do Folz mini or HulaHoops!

kukocitb · 02-18-2021, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by OddityCards

Talk about weird UD/UDCC maybe should do Folz mini or HulaHoops!

Kukoc wasn't in folz mini but he was in Hulahoops. I have a few ideas.

scot · 02-23-2021, 03:09 AM

finally got the "rainbow" of Dale ellis :-)
Nice addition to my PC and biggest reduction of my wantlist since a very long time (11cards+1/1)
And i confirm German isn't existing.

kukocitb · 02-23-2021, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by scot

finally got the "rainbow" of Dale ellis :-)
Nice addition to my PC and biggest reduction of my wantlist since a very long time (11cards+1/1)
And i confirm German isn't existing.

Thanks for the info and congrats on lowering the wantlist! Do you have a link to your Dale Ellis collection?

awoj21 · 03-01-2021, 03:03 AM

Certainly helps!! Thanks

malone32 · 03-03-2021, 03:51 PM

great, the german version doesn't exist. I'm still searching for two Karl Malone versions
1993-94 Upper Deck Golden Grahams Italian #30 Karl Malone
1993-94 Upper Deck Golden Grahams Portuguese #30 Karl Malone

I have the these if someone could use them:
1993-94 Upper Deck Golden Grahams Spanish #22 Todd Day
1993-94 Upper Deck Golden Grahams Spanish #23 Mitch Richmond
1993-94 Upper Deck Golden Grahams Spanish #26 Danny Manning

kukocitb · 03-08-2021, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by awoj21

Certainly helps!! Thanks

Thanks!

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Originally Posted by malone32

great, the german version doesn't exist. I'm still searching for two Karl Malone versions
1993-94 Upper Deck Golden Grahams Italian #30 Karl Malone
1993-94 Upper Deck Golden Grahams Portuguese #30 Karl Malone

I have the these if someone could use them:
1993-94 Upper Deck Golden Grahams Spanish #22 Todd Day
1993-94 Upper Deck Golden Grahams Spanish #23 Mitch Richmond
1993-94 Upper Deck Golden Grahams Spanish #26 Danny Manning

Will check with some people if they need any of those and will keep an ey out for the ones you need.

charly41 · 03-11-2021, 08:03 AM

hi, wasn't on BO for a long time and pleased to see that you're still "THE Kukoc guy" and are making BO unsafe ;-) with highly interesting threads !

There's a fellow collector in Europe who's currently dealing with the whole Golden Grahams matter.
He's still searching for some cards to complete his Italian set (especially Penny Hardaway) but also has some doubles from other players in different languages.

I've got the Spanish and Portuguese Glen Rice from him

I gave him the link to this thread, maybe he'll join the party.

Stay tuned !

charly41 · 03-11-2021, 08:34 AM

oh, just learned that he's the guy who sold you the Kukoc' - world is really small indeed !

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Originally Posted by charly41

hi, wasn't on BO for a long time and pleased to see that you're still "THE Kukoc guy" and are making BO unsafe ;-) with highly interesting threads !

There's a fellow collector in Europe who's currently dealing with the whole Golden Grahams matter.
He's still searching for some cards to complete his Italian set (especially Penny Hardaway) but also has some doubles from other players in different languages.

I've got the Spanish and Portuguese Glen Rice from him

I gave him the link to this thread, maybe he'll join the party.

Stay tuned !

kukocitb · 03-11-2021, 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by charly41

hi, wasn't on BO for a long time and pleased to see that you're still "THE Kukoc guy" and are making BO unsafe ;-) with highly interesting threads !

There's a fellow collector in Europe who's currently dealing with the whole Golden Grahams matter.
He's still searching for some cards to complete his Italian set (especially Penny Hardaway) but also has some doubles from other players in different languages.

I've got the Spanish and Portuguese Glen Rice from him

I gave him the link to this thread, maybe he'll join the party.

Stay tuned !

Yeah I am still chugging along. I am slowing down on newer stuff since there is just so much. Hope all is well with you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by charly41

oh, just learned that he's the guy who sold you the Kukoc' - world is really small indeed !

LOL! Yeah definitely a small world.

charly41 · 03-12-2021, 07:46 AM

Thanks for asking, me and my family made it so far - dam'd Covid - and yeah, there's surely too much newer stuff and I also decided to concentrate mainly on Glen Rice' active years and to buy only some newer issues that really catches my eye.

Stay safe and may your PC prosper !

btw - is Abra still active here ? Really loved his posts !

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Originally Posted by kukocitb

Yeah I am still chugging along. I am slowing down on newer stuff since there is just so much. Hope all is well with you.

LOL! Yeah definitely a small world.

mahmemonaco19 · 03-11-2022, 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by malone32

great, the german version doesn't exist. I'm still searching for two Karl Malone versions
1993-94 Upper Deck Golden Grahams Italian #30 Karl Malone
1993-94 Upper Deck Golden Grahams Portuguese #30 Karl Malone

I have the these if someone could use them:
1993-94 Upper Deck Golden Grahams Spanish #22 Todd Day
1993-94 Upper Deck Golden Grahams Spanish #23 Mitch Richmond
1993-94 Upper Deck Golden Grahams Spanish #26 Danny Manning

Hey man, are you still missing the Italian and Portuguese Karl Malone GG?

02-16-2021, 09:26 AM	#1
kukocitb Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Iowa Posts: 3,679 Kukocitb515 Kukocitb	1993/94 Upper Deck Golden Grahams About as odd as you can get when it comes to Upper Deck. There are 4 versions of these cards. Golden Grahams French, Golden Grahams Italian, Golden Grahams Portuguese, and Golden Grahams Spanish. There is NOT a Golden Grahams German version as far as I am aware and I have done a lot of digging and have found no historical sales on Ebay. Again I could be wrong, but hear me now believe me later LOL! I have chatted with multiple dealers who have owned and sold these cards and they agree with what I am saying. I was not aware of these cards for the longest time. These can be VERY difficult to track down. I was lucky enough to locate the French and Italian from a Kukoc collector who was selling his collection. How are these different then your base Upper Deck card? 1. The Card Number. US, Foreign, and Golden Grahams Foreign releases all have different numbers. 2. A majority of the text on the card is in a different language. The first paragraph below the picture is in English. This is usually the easiest way to tell if it is a US or foreign release. 3. Some other Upper Deck/Collector’s Choice foreign editions differ by printed in EU, but these are all printed in the USA. 4. How can you tell the difference between a French and a French Golden Grahams? The number of the card. a. Front of the card looks the same: b. US version back #: 299 c. Foreign Version back #: 157 i. French ii. German iii. Italian iv. Spanish d. Golden Grahams Version back #: 5 i. French ii. Italian iii. Portuguese iv. Spanish Checklist: 1. Charles Barkley 2. Alonzo Mourning 3. Billy Owens 4. Patrick Ewing 5. Toni Kukoc 6. Hakeem Olajuwon 7. Dan Majerle 8. Larry Johnson 9. John Stockton 10. Christian Laettner 11. Dominique Wilkins 12. Detlef Schrempf 13. Shawn Kemp 14. Derrick Coleman 15. Shaquille O’Neal 16. Clyde Drexler 17. David Robinson 18. Tom Gugliotta 19. Mark Price 20. Sean Elliott 21. Reggie Miller 22. Todd Day 23. Mitch Richmond 24. Jim Jackson 25. Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf 26. Danny Manning 27. Doug Christie 28. Chris Webber 29. Anfernee Hardaway 30. Karl Malone 31. Jamal Mashburn 32. Shawn Bradley 33. Dino Radja 34. Ken Norman 35. Harold Miner 36. John Starks 37. Dale Ellis 38. Glen Rice 39. Clarence Weatherspoon 40. Dee Brown If this is helpful please let me know. Thinking about covering other Collector’s Choice/Upper Deck foreign variations if people are interested. __________________ "You're THE Kukoc guy" Abra Calabro "Kukocitb is the GOAT??? I knew that..." Dajuan Wagner Kukoc COUNTER: 1467 different!!!!! Robin Lopez Counter 719 different!

02-17-2021, 07:16 AM	#5
Jasondr91 Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Behind the Pokemon cards at WalMart Posts: 4,549 Jasondr91	Excellent write up here sir. I never knew these existed. No Rodman? No thanks. Interesting checklist, totally early 90s. __________________ Still collecting certain Aleksandaя "Sasha" Pavlovic items since 2004. "The United States has become a place where professional athletes and entertainers are mistaken for people of importance." - Robert Heinlein

02-17-2021, 01:37 PM	#9
iluvfish2 Moderator Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Lansing, Michigan Posts: 26,684 iluvfish2 iluvfish2	Thanks for the write up and history lesson! Never knew about these..but the picture help a ton trying to reference these! May I get lucky one day and find one or a few in my bulk base! __________________ Blowouts Resident Wade Boggs Super Collector

02-17-2021, 01:54 PM	#10
Deadshot Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 7,694	This is a great reference Jeff! Thanks for sharing! __________________ He said he name was “E”, so I introduced myself as “G”...The license plate said “IMNBITZ” or “IMNBISZ” or something. - G YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPuD3WYJ0rkpLqDdyavC2WA

02-17-2021, 03:44 PM	#12
volblorx8634 Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: OC Posts: 4,130 kd35durant	Awesome info, thanks for sharing! This oddball stuff is what needs more light shed on it! __________________ PC: Sacramento Kings and Cleveland Indians Looking for these cards: 1. 2018-19 National Treasure Tim Duncan Game Gear /10 (non-trim) 2. 2016 Kawhi Leonard Hoops Base Parallels (and Bird's Eye View Gold /10)

02-16-2021, 09:29 AM	#2
OddityCards Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Utah Posts: 481 Geonut	Love it. Still trying to get Beckett checklists right for all the versions and variations of ud/udcc/fleer/panini Int'l. __________________ Collects Michael Jordan, John Stockton, Karl Malone, Jeff Hornacek, Mark Eaton, Jerry Sloan, Kresimir Cosic, and Int'l Oddballs! Player collectors, search your players here! 210,000+ Items! https://www.ebay.com/sch/geonut/m.html?_trksid=p3692 (every other month listings)

02-17-2021, 01:35 AM	#4
frisbeesteve Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: SoCal Posts: 2,682 frisbeesteve frisbeesteve	I love that Golden Grahams cereal box! Thanks for the write-up on the cards as well, I had barely learned myself about the German version not existing as well.

02-17-2021, 09:20 AM	#6
byronscott4ever Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 11,377	If you write about one language version of UD per day, you’ll be done when Zion is retired

02-17-2021, 01:22 PM	#8
sportzking Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Earth :) Posts: 1,197	Interesting, never knew about the set. Have to add a David Robinson on to my checklist.

02-17-2021, 05:06 PM	#14
OddityCards Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Utah Posts: 481 Geonut	Talk about weird UD/UDCC maybe should do Folz mini or HulaHoops! __________________ Collects Michael Jordan, John Stockton, Karl Malone, Jeff Hornacek, Mark Eaton, Jerry Sloan, Kresimir Cosic, and Int'l Oddballs! Player collectors, search your players here! 210,000+ Items! https://www.ebay.com/sch/geonut/m.html?_trksid=p3692 (every other month listings)

02-23-2021, 03:09 AM	#16
scot Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 588	finally got the "rainbow" of Dale ellis :-) Nice addition to my PC and biggest reduction of my wantlist since a very long time (11cards+1/1) And i confirm German isn't existing.

03-01-2021, 03:03 AM	#18
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03-03-2021, 03:51 PM	#19
malone32 Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Germany Posts: 500	great, the german version doesn't exist. I'm still searching for two Karl Malone versions 1993-94 Upper Deck Golden Grahams Italian #30 Karl Malone 1993-94 Upper Deck Golden Grahams Portuguese #30 Karl Malone I have the these if someone could use them: 1993-94 Upper Deck Golden Grahams Spanish #22 Todd Day 1993-94 Upper Deck Golden Grahams Spanish #23 Mitch Richmond 1993-94 Upper Deck Golden Grahams Spanish #26 Danny Manning __________________ !!! Karl Malone Collection - 3000!!! Instagram: BobMalone32 http://kmalone32.wix.com/karlmalone

03-11-2021, 08:03 AM	#21
charly41 Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Vienna, Austria Posts: 1,020	hi, wasn't on BO for a long time and pleased to see that you're still "THE Kukoc guy" and are making BO unsafe ;-) with highly interesting threads ! There's a fellow collector in Europe who's currently dealing with the whole Golden Grahams matter. He's still searching for some cards to complete his Italian set (especially Penny Hardaway) but also has some doubles from other players in different languages. I've got the Spanish and Portuguese Glen Rice from him I gave him the link to this thread, maybe he'll join the party. Stay tuned ! __________________ Collecting MJ, Glen Rice (senior) and Muggsy Bogues Abra is the Master of Photography (MoP)