The Official Kobe Bryant Thread

[mc1]

Originally Posted by regularp

We're beyond Beckett making all the rules. If 2014-15 Eminence can be released two months into the 2015-16 season and the Wiggins in there be considered a rookie card for him, then yes, it's pretty easy to designate the '97 SPx Die-Cut Kobe as a rookie card.

Thats your opinion. You guys are almost as bad as the scumbags selling 1995-96 SP boxes and misleading buyers about the Kobe RCs being in there. How about all the other scumbags saying Topps or Fleer series 1 contain Kobes too!

[rainmaker]

Can we just look at some of the hammers tonight... psa 10 finest rookie 6,100 psa 9 new editions 4500 (wow!) psa 9 topps base 1800... these prices are up 20% in 48 hours. It’s not slowing down and, if anything, it’s accelerating right now.

[Kobefan]

Originally Posted by forgiven1

It's always been considered a Kobe RC by collectors ever since it came out... Why should it change now.??..

No, that's not true. We are talking about back then in 1997. Sports card forum probably didn't exist yet, and the card collecting communities were separated by regions and towns, so there weren't any consensus opinion on them. It might be regarded as a rookie card in your local collecting community, but in mine, they weren't regarded as a rookie card. The closest thing that connects all the different collecting communities was Beckett, so most collectors relied on its information.

[rainmaker]

Hoops rookie psa 9 899?!

[kobebeast2020]

Originally Posted by Kobefan

No, that's not true. We are talking about back then in 1997. Sports card forum probably didn't exist yet, and the card collecting communities were separated by regions and towns, so there weren't any consensus opinion on them. It might be regarded as a rookie card in your local collecting community, but in mine, they weren't regarded as a rookie card. The closest thing that connects all the different collecting communities was Beckett, so most collectors relied on its information.

it was discussed in AOL chatrooms

[Kobefan]

Originally Posted by kobebeast2020

it was discussed in AOL chatrooms

How widely used was it?

[kobebeast2020]

Originally Posted by Kobefan

How widely used was it?

I was being facetious.

[forgiven1]

Originally Posted by Kobefan

No, that's not true. We are talking about back then in 1997. Sports card forum probably didn't exist yet, and the card collecting communities were separated by regions and towns, so there weren't any consensus opinion on them. It might be regarded as a rookie card in your local collecting community, but in mine, they weren't regarded as a rookie card. The closest thing that connects all the different collecting communities was Beckett, so most collectors relied on its information.

So sorry your wrong.... People didn't just start calling this a rc because of the current explosion in the market. It's always been considered one... They were all selling as Kobe RCs back then as well. Straight Facts...

[thekiddfan]

Yea i agree on 97 spx being an RC

And there was a 98 spx tim duncan rc!

[Chris P]

Originally Posted by thekiddfan

Yea i agree on 97 spx being an RC

And there was a 98 spx tim duncan rc!

SPX was released in 97-98 season thus named 1997-98 spx..also those spx cards are labeled rookies..ive been in the hobby since 1990..i never remember the 96 and 97 spx cards being called rookie cards

[regularp]

Originally Posted by rainmaker

Can we just look at some of the hammers tonight... psa 10 finest rookie 6,100 psa 9 new editions 4500 (wow!) psa 9 topps base 1800... these prices are up 20% in 48 hours. It’s not slowing down and, if anything, it’s accelerating right now.

PSA 10 Ultra at $5,200 (should not be less than Finest or Topps, imo); PSA 9 2013-14 Kaboom over $10K; PSA 9 Row 0 just finished at $14K.

[duron]

Originally Posted by forgiven1

So sorry your wrong.... People didn't just start calling this a rc because of the current explosion in the market. It's always been considered one... They were all selling as Kobe RCs back then as well. Straight Facts...

You mean your shops were labeling them as rc’s? Small sample size, but between the handful of Brooklyn and Staten Island shops I went to from 94-99, none of them ever considered them rookie cards.

This goes for the KG and the Kobe.

[Dame]

Originally Posted by forgiven1

So sorry your wrong.... People didn't just start calling this a rc because of the current explosion in the market. It's always been considered one... They were all selling as Kobe RCs back then as well. Straight Facts...

Not sure how far you guys go back back but back in 97 this was never considered a RC, which to me was disappointing because we always look at the back for stats and it was a consensus back then that HS/College stats of a licensed NBA player= RC.

No one was really trading these cards as RC but I personally didn’t care, I always had these in my binder right next to his other RC’s.

[kobebeast2020]

Originally Posted by duron

You mean your shops were labeling them as rc’s? Small sample size, but between the handful of Brooklyn and Staten Island shops I went to from 94-99, none of them ever considered them rookie cards.

This goes for the KG and the Kobe.

I sent you a DM I'm in Bay Ridge I'd love to make a trade and for the love of G-D is there a local shop still around ?

[funkabilly]

I have 26 Kobe autos and prices continue to grow every month.
I try to update my list with 130points but t's difficult to put a value on each auto as some of them never appeared n the ebay sold listing.
Can I have some help for these cards ?

[Steve88]

Originally Posted by kobebeast2020

I sent you a DM I'm in Bay Ridge I'd love to make a trade and for the love of G-D is there a local shop still around ?

If you mean Bay Ridge Brooklyn, there’s a nice small LCS near Bensonhurst


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[kobebeast2020]

Originally Posted by Steve88

If you mean Bay Ridge Brooklyn, there’s a nice small LCS near Bensonhurst


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no way, do you have a name so I can look it up?

[Steve88]

Originally Posted by kobebeast2020

no way, do you have a name so I can look it up?

Yup! Their store is called E&J Boutique. Tell them Asian Steve sent you haha


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[kobebeast2020]

Originally Posted by Steve88

Yup! Their store is called E&J Boutique. Tell them Asian Steve sent you haha


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I'll be there tomorrow thanks

[kobebeast2020]

Originally Posted by Steve88

Yup! Their store is called E&J Boutique. Tell them Asian Steve sent you haha


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its a 15 min walk from my house

[Steve88]

Originally Posted by kobebeast2020

its a 15 min walk from my house

Awesome. Look for Eric or Jesse


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[kcroyalsfan8515]

What would u guys value this at? No greening at all. Have had it 2 years. Its PC bit I was just curious.. I figure no greening is definitely a premium.

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[rainmaker]

the premium for no green seems to be quite high, I'd venture 30%-50%. without seeing the surface that looks psa 8 but my opinion... with the color it would sell closer to hulking psa 9 levels and break new ground for an 8. beautiful card kudos.

[kcroyalsfan8515]

Originally Posted by rainmaker

the premium for no green seems to be quite high, I'd venture 30%-50%. without seeing the surface that looks psa 8 but my opinion... with the color it would sell closer to hulking psa 9 levels and break new ground for an 8. beautiful card kudos.

Appreciate it... Me personally would rather have this than a hulking psa 9...that look is just really distracting for me.

[Hellcat]

Originally Posted by kcroyalsfan8515

What would u guys value this at? No greening at all. Have had it 2 years. Its PC bit I was just curious.. I figure no greening is definitely a premium.

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You have minimal greening still a nice copy. The calf of the defender is greening and Kobe’s arms and head have light greening.