Michael Jordan RC, PSA 10, shatters 100k !!! - Page 109

JWBlue · 02-13-2021, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Justin7

sadly the way most of us do this we have to run it as a busines and pay high taxes (but not CA taxes glad I don't live there)

Gotcha.

FT35 · 02-13-2021, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by dumars2001

I kind of feel that some card collectors are getting/feeling a little fatigued by the whole Jordan card mania. At least I am, but maybe that is because I am from Michigan and I used to have a deep hatred towards MJ and the Bulls!

I’d say that feeling might not be accurate for many. I would think the overwhelming majority of collectors who own these cards are loving the buzz. But your location does help us to now make sense of some of the shade that comes out in your views expressed here! : )

Call me weird but I’m among the few who loves both Jordan and Isiah Thomas. My family were all Hoosier fans and followed his career like he was a family member after what he did at IU. I actually think Thomas’s work/perspective on NBATV is great. I like him better as an analyst than I did as a player.

KhalDrogo · 02-13-2021, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Willikn

You have examples of this?

I've quite a few I've been hoping to see comps on but none for sale or sold in well over a month. Only thing being listed right now on the regular are his base cards in PSA slabs.

There are no examples. 90s Mike is white hot and still can’t be readily found.

Willikn · 02-13-2021, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

There are no examples. 90s Mike is white hot and still can’t be readily found.

Cards I used to see daily are ghosts now. PWCC just listed a few of the biggies. First time I've seen some of those up in at least a month.

CelticsGuy · 02-13-2021, 09:41 AM

Really sharp SGC 9.5 on heritage approaching $70k w the juice. Wonder if it will hit $125k (similar to the 1/31 sale on the bay)?

dumars2001 · 02-13-2021, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by FT35

I’d say that feeling might not be accurate for many. I would think the overwhelming majority of collectors who own these cards are loving the buzz. But your location does help us to now make sense of some of the shade that comes out in your views expressed here! : )

Call me weird but I’m among the few who loves both Jordan and Isiah Thomas. My family were all Hoosier fans and followed his career like he was a family member after what he did at IU. I actually think Thomas’s work/perspective on NBATV is great. I like him better as an analyst than I did as a player.

Very well said and your probably right about most owners of this card. I love knowing someone not from Michigan actually has some love for Zeke and follwed his career. Isiah still has a God like status in Michigan and he always will. Thanks for the love.

soey10 · 02-13-2021, 12:26 PM

Yesterday a PSA 8 sold for just over 15k. A sizable drop from the two that ended a day before at 23k and almost 22k. The one yesterday had a fish eye on the front and the back but was that really enough to drop the price that much. Was thin an anomaly you think?

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airharrison21 · 02-13-2021, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by soey10

Yesterday a PSA 8 sold for just over 15k. A sizable drop from the two that ended a day before at 23k and almost 22k. The one yesterday had a fish eye on the front and the back but was that really enough to drop the price that much. Was thin an anomaly you think?

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The 8 yesterday had horrific centering and a big stain on the bottom right. Not sure how it even received an 8.

tedwilliamsfan · 02-13-2021, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by soey10

Yesterday a PSA 8 sold for just over 15k. A sizable drop from the two that ended a day before at 23k and almost 22k. The one yesterday had a fish eye on the front and the back but was that really enough to drop the price that much. Was thin an anomaly you think?

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I think the $15,000 copy was severely OC, both top to bottom and left to right. Still, it was a lot lower than the other recent PSA 8's have sold for. Who knows any more in this market?

soey10 · 02-13-2021, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by airharrison21

The 8 yesterday had horrific centering and a big stain on the bottom right. Not sure how it even received an 8.

I thought that was a shadow but upon closer inspection it does appear to be a stain. The seller was lucky to get that much for that card

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pcptrade · 02-13-2021, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by pcptrade

I said lets see if Lebron TC BGS 10 with a pop of 158 can hit 50-100K. My time frame is 5 years. I know they will not hit 200K and neither am I betting on it. I am sure the same was said for Jordan Fleer PSA 10 two years ago that they will never hit 100K. If we all knew this was coming, we all would be millionaires. So Never say never!

On a different note, Lebron TC BGS 10 hit 68K. I thought it might take 5 years but it happened in two months. I think we may have to create a " Lebron James TC RC, BGS 10, shatters 100k !!!" thread soon

visualplane · 02-13-2021, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by pcptrade

On a different note, Lebron TC BGS 10 hit 68K. I thought it might take 5 years but it happened in two months. I think we may have to create a " Lebron James TC RC, BGS 10, shatters 100k !!!" thread soon

The refractors and gold and black parallels, to the moon already.

CelticsGuy · 02-13-2021, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by soey10

Yesterday a PSA 8 sold for just over 15k. A sizable drop from the two that ended a day before at 23k and almost 22k. The one yesterday had a fish eye on the front and the back but was that really enough to drop the price that much. Was thin an anomaly you think?

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There is another PSA 8 at $17K+ and another at $13K + ending soon on the bay.

Brent72 · 02-13-2021, 01:45 PM

Seems like the '86 Fleer is cooling off and his Star cards are booming. A BGS 6 Star 101 is already at $20k.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1984-85-Sta...4AAOSwySNgIdWD

And there's no way that '86 Fleer that ended at $15k should have gotten an 8. That is outrageous!

GC1980 · 02-13-2021, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Brent72

Seems like the '86 Fleer is cooling off and his Star cards are booming. A BGS 6 Star 101 is already at $20k.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1984-85-Sta...4AAOSwySNgIdWD

And there's no way that '86 Fleer that ended at $15k should have gotten an 8. That is outrageous!

It’s about time the Star cards get some shine. I don’t trust anything at PWCC but at least the focus is on a great card that is actually low pop.

Stoiclife · 02-13-2021, 06:40 PM

Stevie Wonder must have graded that psa 8 that went for 15k. Ridiculous.

dumars2001 · 02-13-2021, 06:51 PM

I honestly think the people that don't have this card should be patient and see how much lower this will drop. With each passing day, sales are trending lower and lower for graded 8's and below. I haven't been following the above 8's as much, so I don't know how those cards are trending. I am just sad that they are finally starting to go down in price because for awhile there, every grade was literally making huge gains with each passing day and sale. The card is really trading like a stock now. Buy now for xxx amount and it might go up, sell now and you might get xxx amount of dollars but it could all change on a whim, but the card has definitely cooled down and is trending downwards in the past 2 or 3 days.

Ferg1945 · 02-13-2021, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by dumars2001

I honestly think the people that don't have this card should be patient and see how much lower this will drop. With each passing day, sales are trending lower and lower for graded 8's and below. I haven't been following the above 8's as much, so I don't know how those cards are trending. I am just sad that they are finally starting to go down in price because for awhile there, every grade was literally making huge gains with each passing day and sale. The card is really trading like a stock now. Buy now for xxx amount and it might go up, sell now and you might get xxx amount of dollars but it could all change on a whim, but the card has definitely cooled down and is trending downwards in the past 2 or 3 days.

Buyers are starting to wise up to the centering. The nice cards will still sell for a premium. Just soo many 8s being listed the nice ones aren't ending on a daily basis.

For instance.... this one looks pretty good. Let's see where it finishes - https://www.ebay.com/itm/1986-Fleer-...IAAOSwR-NgIdes

dj016873 · 02-13-2021, 07:06 PM

Keep in mind that the auction you reference is PWCC so not a 'real' indicator of the market as they always end higher than other comparables. (I wonder why that is...hmmm...shilling anyone...did I type that out loud?)

Brent72 · 02-13-2021, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by dumars2001

I honestly think the people that don't have this card should be patient and see how much lower this will drop. With each passing day, sales are trending lower and lower for graded 8's and below. I haven't been following the above 8's as much, so I don't know how those cards are trending. I am just sad that they are finally starting to go down in price because for awhile there, every grade was literally making huge gains with each passing day and sale. The card is really trading like a stock now. Buy now for xxx amount and it might go up, sell now and you might get xxx amount of dollars but it could all change on a whim, but the card has definitely cooled down and is trending downwards in the past 2 or 3 days.

A 9 just went for over $75k last night so it's really only the 8s that are taking a pretty big hit right now. Not sure why unless it's just a case of too many being dumped on eBay all at once. Maybe when there are fewer available for purchase they will start ticking upwards again.

Brent72 · 02-13-2021, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by dj016873

Keep in mind that the auction you reference is PWCC so not a 'real' indicator of the market as they always end higher than other comparables. (I wonder why that is...hmmm...shilling anyone...did I type that out loud?)

Not all their auctions are shilled as I've bought some cards from them at pretty fair market prices

Ferg1945 · 02-13-2021, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by dj016873

Keep in mind that the auction you reference is PWCC so not a 'real' indicator of the market as they always end higher than other comparables. (I wonder why that is...hmmm...shilling anyone...did I type that out loud?)

They also sell for more because people trust that they will receive the card they purchase. Also with the Vault being opened... you can just transfer any purchase to the Vault. Easy way to sell and they handle the shipping for you.

vintg · 02-13-2021, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Brent72

A 9 just went for over $75k last night so it's really only the 8s that are taking a pretty big hit right now. Not sure why unless it's just a case of too many being dumped on eBay all at once. Maybe when there are fewer available for purchase they will start ticking upwards again.

yeah, another 8 just closed (under 20k) for $ 18,400.

supply has clearly risen up to meet, and sometimes exceed demand.

I totally view this as mostly hard core collectors cashing their chips in.

can't begrudge folks that, for sure. in fact, I'm HAPPY for hard core collectors
cashing in, they're the ones that have, by an large , "built" this hobby.

what I don't fully get , is the "gotcha" folks, the "I told you, so, folks" actually
taking GLEE in prices correcting.

they are still up an ASTRONOMICAL amount/percentage overall.

dumars2001 · 02-13-2021, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by vintg

yeah, another 8 just closed (under 20k) for $ 18,400.

supply has clearly risen up to meet, and sometimes exceed demand.

I totally view this as mostly hard core collectors cashing their chips in.

can't begrudge folks that, for sure. in fact, I'm HAPPY for hard core collectors
cashing in, they're the ones that have, by an large , "built" this hobby.

what I don't fully get , is the "gotcha" folks, the "I told you, so, folks" actually
taking GLEE in prices correcting.

they are still up an ASTRONOMICAL amount/percentage overall.

I totally agree with you about people taking glee in the price drop but wow, the prices are really going down for these 8's and 7"s.

Brent72 · 02-13-2021, 07:32 PM

It's a temporary drop, but eventually prices will go back up and be higher than what we've seen. They aren't making any more MJ rookies and demand is always going to far outweigh supply, especially when high grades like 9s and 10s are priced out of reach for most people.

02-13-2021, 01:45 PM	#2714
Brent72 Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Illinois Posts: 697	Seems like the '86 Fleer is cooling off and his Star cards are booming. A BGS 6 Star 101 is already at $20k. https://www.ebay.com/itm/1984-85-Sta...4AAOSwySNgIdWD And there's no way that '86 Fleer that ended at $15k should have gotten an 8. That is outrageous! Last edited by Brent72; 02-13-2021 at 01:48 PM.

02-13-2021, 09:41 AM	#2705
CelticsGuy Member Join Date: Mar 2020 Posts: 97	Really sharp SGC 9.5 on heritage approaching $70k w the juice. Wonder if it will hit $125k (similar to the 1/31 sale on the bay)?

02-13-2021, 12:26 PM	#2707
soey10 Member Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: Bakersfield, CA Posts: 1,583 Soey	Yesterday a PSA 8 sold for just over 15k. A sizable drop from the two that ended a day before at 23k and almost 22k. The one yesterday had a fish eye on the front and the back but was that really enough to drop the price that much. Was thin an anomaly you think? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

02-13-2021, 06:40 PM	#2716
Stoiclife Member Join Date: Jan 2021 Location: Earth Posts: 278	Stevie Wonder must have graded that psa 8 that went for 15k. Ridiculous.

02-13-2021, 06:51 PM	#2717
dumars2001 Member Join Date: Feb 2021 Posts: 129	I honestly think the people that don't have this card should be patient and see how much lower this will drop. With each passing day, sales are trending lower and lower for graded 8's and below. I haven't been following the above 8's as much, so I don't know how those cards are trending. I am just sad that they are finally starting to go down in price because for awhile there, every grade was literally making huge gains with each passing day and sale. The card is really trading like a stock now. Buy now for xxx amount and it might go up, sell now and you might get xxx amount of dollars but it could all change on a whim, but the card has definitely cooled down and is trending downwards in the past 2 or 3 days.

02-13-2021, 07:06 PM	#2719
dj016873 Member Join Date: Jan 2021 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 19 darrellj2014	Keep in mind that the auction you reference is PWCC so not a 'real' indicator of the market as they always end higher than other comparables. (I wonder why that is...hmmm...shilling anyone...did I type that out loud?)

02-13-2021, 07:32 PM	#2725
Brent72 Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Illinois Posts: 697	It's a temporary drop, but eventually prices will go back up and be higher than what we've seen. They aren't making any more MJ rookies and demand is always going to far outweigh supply, especially when high grades like 9s and 10s are priced out of reach for most people.