First Buzz: 2020-21 NBA Hoops basketball cards - Page 7

RandysHobby · 02-03-2021, 11:10 AM

I’m in 4 boxes at 260, and then 310 for 3 each. Didn’t even try at paninis rate

tier1dc · 02-03-2021, 11:13 AM

bots are chomping these up on Panini.

success logs are 2 pages deep now.

mikejones · 02-03-2021, 11:15 AM

Went to check ebay for the flippers that couldn't wait to list on ebay and came across this. Lol

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RickeyHenderson · 02-03-2021, 11:16 AM

Sold out

MogulSkier39 · 02-03-2021, 11:17 AM

Wanted to get just one. After a couple minutes, I made it from purchase screen to checkout review. From there, kept on getting an "unable to fetch" error. Now they are sold out.

Kelso242424 · 02-03-2021, 11:17 AM

Out of stock now.....Unreal

Vaessen · 02-03-2021, 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikejones

Went to check ebay for the flippers that couldn't wait to list on ebay and came across this. Lol

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Offer that guy $349

Maybe He'll bite.

PostBaloney · 02-03-2021, 11:18 AM

well alrighty then

Steve88 · 02-03-2021, 11:21 AM

RIP to those that are ripping

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ccovert74 · 02-03-2021, 11:21 AM

wow its been awhile since I tried on panini and it was sold out as fast as i could click add to cart. Bots must of destroyed this

daktmacfan · 02-03-2021, 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ccovert74

wow its been awhile since I tried on panini and it was sold out as fast as i could click add to cart. Bots must of destroyed this

Yeah I think January or Feb was the last time I tried (Revolution perhaps). Definitely rusty here as I couldn't even get it added to the cart.

GiantPirate · 02-03-2021, 11:28 AM

I'm wondering if this is the first release that finally gets flippers/resellers...

Selling out at $350 means they'll try to get more then that on the secondary market, and I have no doubt that some people will pay the price...

But I just can't imagine that the market will be that big.

I could be totally wrong, but this is frickin' hoops base we're talking here!

This 2021 basketball product season is going to be really interesting for sure.

mrb842 · 02-03-2021, 11:28 AM

https://www.instagram.com/stories/rb...8013268646559/

watch the story of the reception to hoops. some of your pessimism isn't shared by their customers.

Freshmaker · 02-03-2021, 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GiantPirate

I'm wondering if this is the first release that finally gets flippers/resellers...

Selling out at $350 means they'll try to get more then that on the secondary market, and I have no doubt that some people will pay the price...

But I just can't imagine that the market will be that big.

I could be totally wrong, but this is frickin' hoops base we're talking here!

This 2021 basketball product season is going to be really interesting for sure.

This is true. No star rookies really yet - maybe Ball? What cracked me up on the Panini site is that they had photos of Morant rookies etc with the box. It's like...those cards aren't going to be in that box. lol

Cheken · 02-03-2021, 11:38 AM

not going to lie - i tried to order 3 from the site and made a mistake by refreshing and then rest is history...

FOMO hit me hard so i went on to BO for a box at 449.95 lol - but did manage to get 2 more off ebay - one for 399 and one for 393.

I collect sealed boxes as well so i guess it is what it is..

Tonic3 · 02-03-2021, 11:38 AM

Here's what I suspect is happening, and what I think has been happening for a while now.

For a product like this it would make sense for breakers, websites like BO, and other major "players" to just buy up everything Panini offers on their website. This continues the illusion that the product is in high demand and justifies the prices they're asking for on their platforms. If this product just sat on the Panini website unsold it would destroy the illusion that it's in demand and they'd have to lower their prices.

By buying everything at Panini's elevated prices it gives them the opportunity to unload product (even if only for a short time period) at the perceived higher price evaluation. I suspect this manipulation has been happening for quite a while now.
Just look at the online exclusives where the distributors have no pre-sale prices or inventory, why do you think they sell so much lower? It's because of the reasons I stated above. They have no vested interest in artificially inflating prices.

Anyway, I'm sure this is obvious to most but I just felt like venting. Happy ripping everyone

tier1dc · 02-03-2021, 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GiantPirate

I'm wondering if this is the first release that finally gets flippers/resellers...

Selling out at $350 means they'll try to get more then that on the secondary market, and I have no doubt that some people will pay the price...

But I just can't imagine that the market will be that big.

I could be totally wrong, but this is frickin' hoops base we're talking here!

This 2021 basketball product season is going to be really interesting for sure.

short window to flip with Donruss coming out in 2 weeks.

who knows though.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrb842

https://www.instagram.com/stories/rb...8013268646559/

watch the story of the reception to hoops. some of your pessimism isn't shared by their customers.

really amazing they were all able to keep a straight face during these videos. it's absolutely absurd.

Promethius88 · 02-03-2021, 11:42 AM

Hate to say it and I know most won't agree, but I'll take Prizm Draft Picks hobby boxes over this crap all day long.

brock · 02-03-2021, 11:44 AM

Any idea why these cost $350 and a Hoops Premium Hobby/Hybrid from the '19-'20 class is $400 in the after market?

19-20 is a much more exciting class and premium stock is a much better product...

I'm confused!

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spurs50fan · 02-03-2021, 11:47 AM

But but there's plenty of low-end to break if you want

tier1dc · 02-03-2021, 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brock

Any idea why these cost $350 and a Hoops Premium Hobby/Hybrid from the '19-'20 class is $400 in the after market?

19-20 is a much more exciting class and premium stock is a much better product...

I'm confused!

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new hotness.

dkcardman · 02-03-2021, 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brock

Any idea why these cost $350 and a Hoops Premium Hobby/Hybrid from the '19-'20 class is $400 in the after market?

19-20 is a much more exciting class and premium stock is a much better product...

I'm confused!

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Flipper and 'investors' who got enamored by the crazy prices of 2018-19 and 2019-20 who have no actual idea why those draft classes were valuable are propping the market up. Eventually they will get caught holding the bag when they realize there isn't that big of demand for this stuff.
Personally if I can't find it on the shelf this year, I will buy zero. I will take the $100 others are spending on a crappy blaster from this year and buy 4 Zion Mosaic rookies.

gmen · 02-03-2021, 11:49 AM

bigjbasketball · 02-03-2021, 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brock

Any idea why these cost $350 and a Hoops Premium Hobby/Hybrid from the '19-'20 class is $400 in the after market?

19-20 is a much more exciting class and premium stock is a much better product...

I'm confused!

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Those two products aren’t really apples to apples in terms of what’s in the box, but I definitely see your point. I’d rather buy three Walmart Hoops Premium Stock mega boxes at after market prices before I’d buy one of these.

benz35 · 02-03-2021, 11:55 AM

crazy times... i was hesitant on pulling the plug for 250 a box at layton and now itike a steal lol... should have bought more hahahaha

02-03-2021, 11:15 AM	#153
mikejones Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: fresno Posts: 5,266	Went to check ebay for the flippers that couldn't wait to list on ebay and came across this. Lol Sent from my SM-G970U using Tapatalk __________________ Why the hell are you buying Siemian stuff. Dude is done, can't you tell I'm trying to get rid of him because he'll never be our starting QB again....

02-03-2021, 11:38 AM	#165
Cheken Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Queens, New York Posts: 3,133	not going to lie - i tried to order 3 from the site and made a mistake by refreshing and then rest is history... FOMO hit me hard so i went on to BO for a box at 449.95 lol - but did manage to get 2 more off ebay - one for 399 and one for 393. I collect sealed boxes as well so i guess it is what it is.. __________________ http://s1107.photobucket.com/albums/h381/ChekenCollection/

02-03-2021, 11:10 AM	#151
RandysHobby Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Arizona Posts: 9,362 NickFolesEaglesQB	I’m in 4 boxes at 260, and then 310 for 3 each. Didn’t even try at paninis rate

02-03-2021, 11:13 AM	#152
tier1dc Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Posts: 5,541	bots are chomping these up on Panini. success logs are 2 pages deep now.

02-03-2021, 11:16 AM	#154
RickeyHenderson Member Join Date: Apr 2020 Location: Boulder, CO Posts: 584 the_nft_store_by_hawkewind	Sold out

02-03-2021, 11:17 AM	#155
MogulSkier39 Member Join Date: Jan 2021 Posts: 669	Wanted to get just one. After a couple minutes, I made it from purchase screen to checkout review. From there, kept on getting an "unable to fetch" error. Now they are sold out.

02-03-2021, 11:17 AM	#156
Kelso242424 Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 223	Out of stock now.....Unreal

02-03-2021, 11:18 AM	#158
PostBaloney Member Join Date: Jan 2021 Posts: 512	well alrighty then

02-03-2021, 11:21 AM	#159
Steve88 Member Join Date: Jul 2020 Posts: 1,090	RIP to those that are ripping Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

02-03-2021, 11:21 AM	#160
ccovert74 Member Join Date: Jan 2020 Location: Northern VA Posts: 623	wow its been awhile since I tried on panini and it was sold out as fast as i could click add to cart. Bots must of destroyed this

02-03-2021, 11:28 AM	#162
GiantPirate Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 1,598 LoghanCC	I'm wondering if this is the first release that finally gets flippers/resellers... Selling out at $350 means they'll try to get more then that on the secondary market, and I have no doubt that some people will pay the price... But I just can't imagine that the market will be that big. I could be totally wrong, but this is frickin' hoops base we're talking here! This 2021 basketball product season is going to be really interesting for sure.

02-03-2021, 11:28 AM	#163
mrb842 Member Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: midwest Posts: 1,692	https://www.instagram.com/stories/rb...8013268646559/ watch the story of the reception to hoops. some of your pessimism isn't shared by their customers.

02-03-2021, 11:38 AM	#166
Tonic3 Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Southwest MI Posts: 2,533	Here's what I suspect is happening, and what I think has been happening for a while now. For a product like this it would make sense for breakers, websites like BO, and other major "players" to just buy up everything Panini offers on their website. This continues the illusion that the product is in high demand and justifies the prices they're asking for on their platforms. If this product just sat on the Panini website unsold it would destroy the illusion that it's in demand and they'd have to lower their prices. By buying everything at Panini's elevated prices it gives them the opportunity to unload product (even if only for a short time period) at the perceived higher price evaluation. I suspect this manipulation has been happening for quite a while now. Just look at the online exclusives where the distributors have no pre-sale prices or inventory, why do you think they sell so much lower? It's because of the reasons I stated above. They have no vested interest in artificially inflating prices. Anyway, I'm sure this is obvious to most but I just felt like venting. Happy ripping everyone

02-03-2021, 11:42 AM	#168
Promethius88 Member Join Date: Dec 2019 Posts: 1,498	Hate to say it and I know most won't agree, but I'll take Prizm Draft Picks hobby boxes over this crap all day long.

02-03-2021, 11:44 AM	#169
brock Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Posts: 888 showman513	Any idea why these cost $350 and a Hoops Premium Hobby/Hybrid from the '19-'20 class is $400 in the after market? 19-20 is a much more exciting class and premium stock is a much better product... I'm confused! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

02-03-2021, 11:47 AM	#170
spurs50fan Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 4,025	But but there's plenty of low-end to break if you want

02-03-2021, 11:49 AM	#173
gmen Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 261

02-03-2021, 11:55 AM	#175
benz35 Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 4,854	crazy times... i was hesitant on pulling the plug for 250 a box at layton and now itike a steal lol... should have bought more hahahaha