Michael Jordan RC, PSA 10, shatters 100k !!!

[Foo3112]

I feel what we are seeing right now is that bidding is getting more aggressive since it's no doubt that card is projected to be the next million dollar card in many peoples eyes. Everyone who REALLY wants one is making sure to put in their highest bids before we actually see that number. I am thinking that we may even see it hit 1,000,000 quicker than what it took to get to the first 500K when it truly took off and never looked back (meaning under a year at this rate).

[Mustang1990]

just wait till the media gets hold of these 2 sales tonight.. jordan is going to rise even more

[Ferg1945]

Originally Posted by Foo3112

I feel what we are seeing right now is that bidding is getting more aggressive since it's no doubt that card is projected to be the next million dollar card in the hobby in many peoples eyes. Everyone who REALLY wants one is making sure to put in their highest bids before we actually see that number. I am thinking that we may even see it hit 1,000,000 quicker than what it took to get to the first 500K when it truly took off and never looked back (meaning under a year at this rate).

Yep and the centered one will garner more attention for sure. Who knows how many bidders are in on that. It's only 7:21 on the West coast. We might be here a while if 2-3 deep pocket guys get in a war.

[Slvnumber2]

Originally Posted by Foo3112

I feel what we are seeing right now is that bidding is getting more aggressive since it's no doubt that card is projected to be the next million dollar card in many peoples eyes. Everyone who REALLY wants one is making sure to put in their highest bids before we actually see that number. I am thinking that we may even see it hit 1,000,000 quicker than what it took to get to the first 500K when it truly took off and never looked back (meaning under a year at this rate).

Did I say you said it would hit a million in my thread? No - I said people in the thread made that statement and above is the post. You keep crying again in this thread and still wrong - you almost had me didn’t you



That PSA 8 prediction at $48k is going the wrong direction, but don’t worry pumpers. It Just means if you are patient you can get it near the floor our buddy said it was going to at around $10k. Last 4-5 sales have seen the 8’s drop from $28-31k to under $20k - trend line is down to $15k range. Might be in the $10-12k range in a week or two so some bargains will possibly be out there.

[Ferg1945]

Originally Posted by Slvnumber2

That PSA 8 prediction at $48k is going the wrong direction, but don’t worry pumpers. It Just means if you are patient you can get it near the floor our buddy said it was going to at around $10k. Last 4-5 sales have seen the 8’s drop from $28-31k to under $20k - trend line is down to $15k range. Might be in the $10-12k range in a week or two so some bargains will possibly be out there.

You seem pretty salty.

You are aware that not every 8 is the same.... correct?

Some are quite OC and those will sell for less. Let's see where a couple nice ones end before we start to decide that PSA 8s are trash.

[vintg]

Originally Posted by Slvnumber2

Did I say you said it would hit a million in my thread? No - I said people in the thread made that statement and above is the post. You keep crying again in this thread and still wrong - you almost had me didn’t you



That PSA 8 prediction at $48k is going the wrong direction, but don’t worry pumpers. It Just means if you are patient you can get it near the floor our buddy said it was going to at around $10k. Last 4-5 sales have seen the 8’s drop from $28-31k to under $20k - trend line is down to $15k range. Might be in the $10-12k range in a week or two so some bargains will possibly be out there.

you conveniently left out the three OTHER sales on 2/14/2021

$ 18,100
$ 17,701
$ 19,600

of course, that wouldn't have fit your "trend line 15k range" NARRATIVE

as far as your 10k to 12k range in a week or two, ive come to 2 conclusions:

#1) your actually an "anti-pumper" hoping to knock the card down and panic people , so you, yourself have buying opportunities

#2) you're just a jacka$$

[FT35]

Originally Posted by vintg

#1) your actually an "anti-pumper" hoping to knock the card down and panic people , so you, yourself have buying opportunities

#2) you're just a jacka$$

#3) sold early.

[kefskala]

lets all put this guy aside and move on, he is like a 4 year old, the more attention you give him the more he thrives... just ignore and we can all continue to have logical conversations.....with out fake or inaccurate assumptions where we have to debunk everything...

[CelticsGuy]

Originally Posted by vintg

you conveniently left out the three OTHER sales on 2/14/2021

$ 18,100
$ 17,701
$ 19,600

of course, that wouldn't have fit your "trend line 15k range" NARRATIVE

as far as your 10k to 12k range in a week or two, ive come to 2 conclusions:

#1) your actually an "anti-pumper" hoping to knock the card down and panic people , so you, yourself have buying opportunities

#2) you're just a jacka$$

and what about heritage, goldin and other auction houses...those count too.

[Slvnumber2]

Originally Posted by CelticsGuy

and what about heritage, goldin and other auction houses...those count too.

Those 3 did not have any auctions close last night, but they do populate VCP when they do. The only one that does not do it is Sirius for some reason.

[GOATcards]

Soooo. . . . how about the aesthetics of the #57 on its own merits? Great photo, but a couple things:

1) Fleer skimped on the color dyes. Even the "boldest color" 57s aren't true red like on the Star issues. I want the deep red colors I associate with my memory of the '93 Finals (e.g. the photo on his '93 Ultra #30 - https://www.google.com/search?q=jordan+1993+ultra+30 ).

2) Lots of variations that don't seem to affect prices as long as they're in the right grading company holder. I remember seeing a BGS 9.5 in person and the first thing that jumped out at me was the fuzzy lettering in "Chicago" which usually goes with the almost literally orange coloring of the jersey. Then there's the ones with the huge fish-eye right next to his face. Some of those even appear in PSA 9 holders.

Anyway, I don't get how anyone could lay down #500K for a PSA 10 where the "red" in the border looks orange compared to the red in the grading flip, unless they were price-speculating. I couldn't stand to look at it, as a collector.

(Other unacceptably orange issues: 88F #17, and the 88 Starting Lineup which is otherwise a great photo. Also the 89 Hoops looks nice photo and color-wise, but . . . "junk era".)

[interestingcool]

Originally Posted by GOATcards

Soooo. . . . how about the aesthetics of the #57 on its own merits? Great photo, but a couple things:

1) Fleer skimped on the color dyes. Even the "boldest color" 57s aren't true red like on the Star issues. I want the deep red colors I associate with my memory of the '93 Finals (e.g. the photo on his '93 Ultra #30 - https://www.google.com/search?q=jordan+1993+ultra+30 ).

2) Lots of variations that don't seem to affect prices as long as they're in the right grading company holder. I remember seeing a BGS 9.5 in person and the first thing that jumped out at me was the fuzzy lettering in "Chicago" which usually goes with the almost literally orange coloring of the jersey. Then there's the ones with the huge fish-eye right next to his face. Some of those even appear in PSA 9 holders.

Anyway, I don't get how anyone could lay down #500K for a PSA 10 where the "red" in the border looks orange compared to the red in the grading flip, unless they were price-speculating. I couldn't stand to look at it, as a collector.

(Other unacceptably orange issues: 88F #17, and the 88 Starting Lineup which is otherwise a great photo. Also the 89 Hoops looks nice photo and color-wise, but . . . "junk era".)

As far as the color dyes... why would you say the skimped? Who says they intended the 86 Fleers to be bold red but skimped so we ended up with something less? Maybe it's the exact hue and saturation they intended.

[Slvnumber2]

Originally Posted by vintg

you conveniently left out the three OTHER sales on 2/14/2021

$ 18,100
$ 17,701
$ 19,600

of course, that wouldn't have fit your "trend line 15k range" NARRATIVE

as far as your 10k to 12k range in a week or two, ive come to 2 conclusions:

#1) your actually an "anti-pumper" hoping to knock the card down and panic people , so you, yourself have buying opportunities

#2) you're just a jacka$$

Did not leave them out conveniently or not. When I did a screen shot of the report at the time that is what had sold. I don’t write the letters - I just drive the mail truck. Just like I don’t make the data or sales info. when Jordan sales go down one side of the fence(buyers) probably like it and one side (sellers or potential sellers) don’t like it.

Amazing how friendly this group is if you join the echo chamber and pump all things Jordan. If you actually read my posts do I knock him? No - I say as a fan and collector he is GOAT and rightly so. His cards should be worth more than anyone’s, and I agree that his rookie should be about a $500k card. I don’t agree that it should go from $37k a year ago to $150k/$220k and then $700k+ in less than 14 months. Anything that rises that quickly has some help and not in a good way, and if you don’t like me pointing it out tough.

It is happening on the baseball side right now with the 1980 Henderson rookie with shill bidding, retracted bids, and people trying to cash in on the card. The market overall is on fire right now and some Mantle cards last night went for 2x their last sale and that never happens with Mantle cards.
That will make me quite a bit of money since most of my cards are Mantle’s, but I also think that it won’t be a good thing for the hobby. Cards going up is a bad thing? Not at all. Cards going up due to fake sales, shill bidding, and manipulation is bad for the hobby - does nit matter if it is Jordan or Mantle. Have a nice evening gents and carry on.

[vintg]

Originally Posted by Slvnumber2

Did not leave them out conveniently or not. When I did a screen shot of the report at the time that is what had sold. I don’t write the letters - I just drive the mail truck. Just like I don’t make the data or sales info. when Jordan sales go down one side of the fence(buyers) probably like it and one side (sellers or potential sellers) don’t like it.

Amazing how friendly this group is if you join the echo chamber and pump all things Jordan. If you actually read my posts do I knock him? No - I say as a fan and collector he is GOAT and rightly so. His cards should be worth more than anyone’s, and I agree that his rookie should be about a $500k card. I don’t agree that it should go from $37k a year ago to $150k/$220k and then $700k+ in less than 14 months. Anything that rises that quickly has some help and not in a good way, and if you don’t like me pointing it out tough.

It is happening on the baseball side right now with the 1980 Henderson rookie with shill bidding, retracted bids, and people trying to cash in on the card. The market overall is on fire right now and some Mantle cards last night went for 2x their last sale and that never happens with Mantle cards.
That will make me quite a bit of money since most of my cards are Mantle’s, but I also think that it won’t be a good thing for the hobby. Cards going up is a bad thing? Not at all. Cards going up due to fake sales, shill bidding, and manipulation is bad for the hobby - does nit matter if it is Jordan or Mantle. Have a nice evening gents and carry on.

the issue I have with your posts, is you often play "loose and fast" with
the facts.

example #1) you kept saying people were "pumping this card up to 1 million"
thereby hurting newbies who get in at the top, before a drop.
the post you use to "prove" your point was by foo3112.

what did he actually say ??? (paraphrasing)

"bidding is getting aggressive b/c its projected to be the next million dollar
card in many peoples eyes"

"we may even see 1 million quicker than what people might even think IN UNDER ONE YEAR"

how on God's earth is this "pumping" and leading naïve buyers to "overpay" ??

example #2) you are constantly banging the drum that psa 10's have DROPPED 20%. run, panic...they're falling off a cliff. when, um , you yourself stated two buyers may have "overpaid" at $732. for jordans that
weren't even the "finest copies" ??

isn't it also true, stated differently, mj rookies are up over 200% !!! 200k-600k
in a 45 day span ???

its the old adage: one see the glass as half full, one sees it as half empty,
and both are right.

and, fyi, my modest collection of mantles saw the HUGE continued bump in
pwcc auction ended feb. 14th (valentines day, lol). im ecstatic.

I prefer to believe that the cnn exposure/wall street money influx is here,
and its changing the hobby in front of our very eyes.