Tom brady is mj - Page 5

kobemagee29 · 01-24-2021, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian48

In fairness, two of those picks were tips and that Packers D that you said was a joke made the key plays. Brady was brilliant in the first and gave the team enough points to win. Rodgers had more than one opportunity to change the game and he didn’t do it.

I must of missed the key plays on defense, the only key play I saw made by the packers defense was the one with 8 seconds to go in the 1st half.

JohnnyHatesJazz · 01-24-2021, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Cyphon25

Quote me discounting his intangibles. The internet saves everything.

his intangibles are off the charts. these other guys don't compare save for Joe Montana.

Check out rodgers record when he's behind in the 4th quarter. it isn't pretty. he's been in the league long enough that you can't claim shortage of data. He's a classic front runner. Now, if his intangibles were as high or higher than brady, you'd expect a better record attempting to bring his team back. Brady's the ultimate competitor with a plethora of comebacks in his career.

Cyphon25 · 01-24-2021, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyHatesJazz

his intangibles are off the charts. these other guys don't compare save for Joe Montana.

Check out rodgers record when he's behind in the 4th quarter. it isn't pretty. he's been in the league long enough that you can't claim shortage of data. He's a classic front runner. Now, if his intangibles were as high or higher than brady, you'd expect a better record attempting to bring his team back. Brady's the ultimate competitor with a plethora of comebacks in his career.

So you don't have a quote?

JohnnyHatesJazz · 01-24-2021, 10:19 PM

"you play to win the game"

"you judge quarterbacks by wins"

Brady wins AND has stats.

BostonNut · 01-24-2021, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyHatesJazz

"you play to win the game"

"you judge quarterbacks by wins"

Brady wins AND has stats.

Yeah, but all his wins are pure luck!

ArmyDC · 01-24-2021, 10:26 PM

No, MJ was a world wide phenomenon. Brady is the GOAT in football but not comparable. MJ was just different. If you were not around you just can’t comprehend. I’m guessing it’s like when the Beatles came out and the world loved them, MJ was the same.

epatmythes · 01-24-2021, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyHatesJazz

"you play to win the game"

"you judge quarterbacks by wins"

Brady wins AND has stats.

The, my, Packers certainly did not "play to win the game"....

Heartbreaking

Congrats to the Buccaneers & Tom Brady... better team, today!

In all honesty though, you take Brady's stats today... 9 times out of 10, that results in a loss... just not today!

Brian48 · 01-24-2021, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BostonNut

Yeah, but all his wins are pure luck!

After 20 years, it’s not just luck any more. Luck goes both ways. It was luck that Eli won in ‘07 and ‘11.

BostonNut · 01-24-2021, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian48

After 20 years, it’s not just luck any more. Luck goes both ways. It was luck that Eli won in ‘07 and ‘11.

No way man....The Tuck Rule! Pure luck that the officials called that play correctly!

epatmythes · 01-24-2021, 10:42 PM

I'll just respond to the subject of this thread... without reading the OP or the other 4 pages of "whatever"...

"Tom brady is mj"...

How many championships did MJ lose???

/thread

Hellcat · 01-24-2021, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by epatmythes

I'll just respond to the subject of this thread... without reading the OP or the other 4 pages of "whatever"...

"Tom brady is mj"...

How many championships did MJ lose???

/thread

MJ is not as accomplished as Brady. Brady owns or will own every regular and postseason record for passing and MJ only was a conference champ 6 times,Brady 10 times! Enough said he failed to make the Finals way more years than he made it Brady is at 50% let that sink in!

pcptrade · 01-24-2021, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by epatmythes

I'll just respond to the subject of this thread... without reading the OP or the other 4 pages of "whatever"...

"Tom brady is mj"...

How many championships did MJ lose???

/thread

That is the argument many use to discredit Lebron as GOAT and it will be used even if Lebron wins six titles. MJ won six out six championships and was the finals MVP in all six. Jordan is at a different level than Brady imo. Let's just say Brady is the current GOAT of football and not compare Brady and Jordan. Brady is not in any "top 10 greatest athletes of all time" ranking, whereas Jordan is.

Disclaimer: I own cards of Lebron, Jordan and Brady

BostonNut · 01-24-2021, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by epatmythes

I'll just respond to the subject of this thread... without reading the OP or the other 4 pages of "whatever"...

"Tom brady is mj"...

How many championships did MJ lose???

/thread

Jordon only got to six.

/thread

boston12 · 01-24-2021, 11:09 PM

I don’t think it’s possible to compare a football player to a basketball player. Jordan and Brady are the GOATs of each of their sports. But to say Brady lost 3 times in a super bowl as some sort of negative is crazy talk. Why is it better to lose before the championship vs in the championship?

randino101 · 01-24-2021, 11:13 PM

This is an apples to oranges comparison.

Jordan played offense & defense as an NBA player on a 5-man lineup with a rotation of ~9 - 10 guys who ever even saw the hard court on those Bulls championship teams. He could essentially take over games single handedly at both ends of the court.

Even though QB is the most important position in football, Brady can't play defense or kick field goals or play special teams or compensate for the bulk of the other 52 guys on his roster...

Different players. Different leagues. Different games. Different rules.

bigroger1980 · 01-24-2021, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by kobemagee29

everyone acting like he had a great game, guess the 3 Int's in the 2nd half got over looked. Packers defense was a joke, no way you give up a TD like that before half time.

The dude is 43 years old ! Where was the Marino’s and aikmans and such at that age ? Not playing for a super bowl ! We all know he is not the Brady of years past ( New England thought so as well) but to reach another super bowl in his first year with a new team ! New system and new players come on

Bulls90s · 01-24-2021, 11:24 PM

Cant believe Tommy Boy threw 3 interceptions and still won...has that been done before? He threw one b/c he didnt want to get hit when he was in pocket. Never seen that before not in playoffs. He yelled at the ref for getting hit. He's a joke. He got suspended for cheating in playoffs. Biggest cheater of all time in football.

BostonNut · 01-24-2021, 11:25 PM

He is 43...44 in August.

BostonNut · 01-24-2021, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Bulls90s

Cant believe Tommy Boy threw 3 interceptions and still won...has that been done before? He threw one b/c he didnt want to get hit when he was in pocket. Never seen that before not in playoffs. He yelled at the ref for getting hit. He's a joke. He got suspended for cheating in playoffs. Biggest cheater of all time in football.

Yes, Brady is 3-1 in playoff games in which he throws three or more interceptions.

mrb842 · 01-24-2021, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by randino101

This is an apples to oranges comparison.

Jordan played offense & defense as an NBA player on a 5-man lineup with a rotation of ~9 - 10 guys who ever even saw the hard court on those Bulls championship teams. He could essentially take over games single handedly at both ends of the court.

Even though QB is the most important position in football, Brady can't play defense or kick field goals or play special teams or compensate for the bulk of the other 52 guys on his roster...

Different players. Different leagues. Different games. Different rules.

It's not. Brady has separated himself from everyone else in his profession by wide ridiculous margins. Jordan doesn't have the most titles-by far, most points, most well anything.

bigroger1980 · 01-24-2021, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by pcptrade

That is the argument many use to discredit Lebron as GOAT and it will be used even if Lebron wins six titles. MJ won six out six championships and was the finals MVP in all six. Jordan is at a different level than Brady imo. Let's just say Brady is the current GOAT of football and not compare Brady and Jordan. Brady is not in any "top 10 greatest athletes of all time" ranking, whereas Jordan is.

Disclaimer: I own cards of Lebron, Jordan and Brady

I agree with most of what you said ! Jordan was transcendent ! No one like him and no one probably will ever be ! Brady on the other hand was not transcendent ! Not flashy and not fast so just another long number of quarterbacks ! But one of the best if not the best at the position so i disagree with you on Brady not in the top 10 greatest athletes but that’s the best part we are all free to choose and like and suggest what we think ! For us to debate there names they way we do means they made there stamp on the game !

Brian48 · 01-24-2021, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Bulls90s

Cant believe Tommy Boy threw 3 interceptions and still won...has that been done before? He threw one b/c he didnt want to get hit when he was in pocket. Never seen that before not in playoffs. He yelled at the ref for getting hit. He's a joke. He got suspended for cheating in playoffs. Biggest cheater of all time in football.

Montana threw 3 INTs before he finally pulled ahead with “the Catch” to Dwight Clark. People are conveniently forgetting that.

biggieruth · 01-24-2021, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by alphaomegas

I’m sorry to say Jordan is over rated. The lack of talent doing those years are beyond present. NBA doing those years had no skills except for a few so, MJ overrated. Brady going to 10 Super Bowl when many teams can’t get to one and he beat Other goats like manning Rodgers. NFL you have to study and use play calls and more accurate.
What nba put a dang ball in a hoop or freaked dunk. Give me a break nba has the worst talent and where being deform tall is asset.
Baseball be only closets thing you can compare to Brady. Hit a round ball with a round bat skill.
Again nba is a freak show joke MJ overrated rated also lebron. #@#@#@#@ if your his size you be good too.

I know a lot of tall people that can't dunk you sound like a real idiot.

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pcptrade · 01-24-2021, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by bigroger1980

I agree with most of what you said ! Jordan was transcendent ! No one like him and no one probably will ever be ! Brady on the other hand was not transcendent ! Not flashy and not fast so just another long number of quarterbacks ! But one of the best if not the best at the position so i disagree with you on Brady not in the top 10 greatest athletes but that’s the best part we are all free to choose and like and suggest what we think ! For us to debate there names they way we do means they made there stamp on the game !

I am not denying what you are saying. When I mentioned top or greatest athletes of all time ranking, I was referring to various polls out there. Ali, Jordan, LeBron, Gretzky, Federer, Pele, Usain Bolt, Phelps, Tiger woods are in the top 20 but not Brady. None of my friends in my country know who Brady is but they all know Ali, Jordan, LeBron, Federer, Bolt and Tiger woods . But again, it may not mean anything.

epatmythes · 01-24-2021, 11:48 PM

Brady did everything today that would have cost 99.9% of quarterbacks to be doing a post game press confernce about their loss...

But, we have discussions about him being a GOAT because he's going to his 10th Super Bowl...

His defense bailed his old azz out...

Plain and simple...

System guarterback... always has been, always will be...

Joker with rings, thanks to great teams..

GOAT? Nope!

01-24-2021, 10:19 PM	#104
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Bulls90s Member Join Date: May 2016 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,644	Cant believe Tommy Boy threw 3 interceptions and still won...has that been done before? He threw one b/c he didnt want to get hit when he was in pocket. Never seen that before not in playoffs. He yelled at the ref for getting hit. He's a joke. He got suspended for cheating in playoffs. Biggest cheater of all time in football. __________________ White men cant jump

01-24-2021, 11:25 PM	#118
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01-24-2021, 10:26 PM	#106
ArmyDC Member Join Date: Oct 2019 Posts: 999	No, MJ was a world wide phenomenon. Brady is the GOAT in football but not comparable. MJ was just different. If you were not around you just can’t comprehend. I’m guessing it’s like when the Beatles came out and the world loved them, MJ was the same.

01-24-2021, 10:42 PM	#110
epatmythes Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Da U.P. Eh! Posts: 2,502 epatmythes	I'll just respond to the subject of this thread... without reading the OP or the other 4 pages of "whatever"... "Tom brady is mj"... How many championships did MJ lose??? /thread

01-24-2021, 11:09 PM	#114
boston12 Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Posts: 3,283	I don’t think it’s possible to compare a football player to a basketball player. Jordan and Brady are the GOATs of each of their sports. But to say Brady lost 3 times in a super bowl as some sort of negative is crazy talk. Why is it better to lose before the championship vs in the championship?

01-24-2021, 11:13 PM	#115
randino101 Member Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: PNW Posts: 427 randino101	This is an apples to oranges comparison. Jordan played offense & defense as an NBA player on a 5-man lineup with a rotation of ~9 - 10 guys who ever even saw the hard court on those Bulls championship teams. He could essentially take over games single handedly at both ends of the court. Even though QB is the most important position in football, Brady can't play defense or kick field goals or play special teams or compensate for the bulk of the other 52 guys on his roster... Different players. Different leagues. Different games. Different rules.

01-24-2021, 11:48 PM	#125
epatmythes Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Da U.P. Eh! Posts: 2,502 epatmythes	Brady did everything today that would have cost 99.9% of quarterbacks to be doing a post game press confernce about their loss... But, we have discussions about him being a GOAT because he's going to his 10th Super Bowl... His defense bailed his old azz out... Plain and simple... System guarterback... always has been, always will be... Joker with rings, thanks to great teams.. GOAT? Nope!